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Episode 5 — Lasers, AI Chaos, Plumbing Pain & Tools We’d Never Lend

from Fire and Steel · host Toby Murrill

Episode 5 — Lasers, AI Chaos, Plumbing Pain & Tools We’d Never LendIt’s just Toby and Chris this week, with Onur out sick — which means things drift slightly off the rails in the usual Fire & Steel fashion.Toby talks about finally getting hands-on with his laser, experimenting with rotary setups, Yeti mugs, brass pieces, and the strange world of EDC coins, pills, and ultra-hyped collectibles. We dig into maker marketing, limited drops, and why some people will buy anything if it’s hyped hard enough.Chris breaks down his recent run of AI-generated posts, why people love them, and why a loud minority absolutely lose their minds over AI. We talk about anti-AI outrage, creativity, research tools, and why most of the anger feels performative rather than practical. “We also drifted into a surprisingly thoughtful conversation about faith, Christianity, and using AI as a research tool — and why that topic seems to upset people far more than it probably should.”“We also drifted into a surprisingly thoughtful conversation about faith, Christianity, and using AI as a research tool — and why that topic seems to upset people far more than it probably should.”Toby goes on a very real rant about modern customer support, hour-and-forty-minute hold times, faulty pumps, unpaid troubleshooting, and why tradespeople end up charging what they do. A brutally honest look at why “just fitting it cheaper” often costs far more in the long run.We talk about expanding forge classes, adding jewellery and ring-making, balancing weekday vs weekend courses, and the long-term reality of running multiple income streams. Knives are a luxury. Plumbing is a necessity. That tension shapes everything.The tool game takes a turn this week, drifting into which tools we’d never lend out and which brands we secretly judge people for. Ryobi gets dragged. Brand loyalty gets questioned. Opinions are strong.A classic two-man Fire & Steel episode: tools, tech, rants, business reality, AI, and the kind of conversations that probably make more sense when Onur is around — but still land exactly where they should.🖥️ Lasers, EDC Culture & Maker Hype🧠 AI, Art & Manufactured Outrage🔧 Plumbing Nightmares & Why Trades Burn You Out⚒️ Forge Life, Classes & Long-Term Plans🛠️ Tool Talk & Brand SnobberySupport us at Patreon  https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast or buy our merch tshirts stickers  Find us athttps://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/murrillforge/          www.murrillforge.com Email [email protected] Onur  https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/user/DiesineveryfilmChris https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd

Episode 5 — Lasers, AI Chaos, Plumbing Pain & Tools We’d Never LendIt’s just Toby and Chris this week, with Onur out sick — which means things drift slightly off the rails in the usual Fire & Steel fashion.Toby talks about finally getting hands-on with his laser, experimenting with rotary setups, Yeti mugs, brass pieces, and the strange world of EDC coins, pills, and ultra-hyped collectibles. We dig into maker marketing, limited drops, and why some people will buy anything if it’s hyped hard enough.Chris breaks down his recent run of AI-generated posts, why people love them, and why a loud minority absolutely lose their minds over AI. We talk about anti-AI outrage, creativity, research tools, and why most of the anger feels performative rather than practical. “We also drifted into a surprisingly thoughtful conversation about faith, Christianity, and using AI as a research tool — and why that topic seems to upset people far more than it probably should.”“We also drifted into a surprisingly thoughtful conversation about faith, Christianity, and using AI as a research tool — and why that topic seems to upset people far more than it probably should.”Toby goes on a very real rant about modern customer support, hour-and-forty-minute hold times, faulty pumps, unpaid troubleshooting, and why tradespeople end up charging what they do. A brutally honest look at why “just fitting it cheaper” often costs far more in the long run.We talk about expanding forge classes, adding jewellery and ring-making, balancing weekday vs weekend courses, and the long-term reality of running multiple income streams. Knives are a luxury. Plumbing is a necessity. That tension shapes everything.The tool game takes a turn this week, drifting into which tools we’d never lend out and which brands we secretly judge people for. Ryobi gets dragged. Brand loyalty gets questioned. Opinions are strong.A classic two-man Fire & Steel episode: tools, tech, rants, business reality, AI, and the kind of conversations that probably make more sense when Onur is around — but still land exactly where they should.🖥️ Lasers, EDC Culture & Maker Hype🧠 AI, Art & Manufactured Outrage🔧 Plumbing Nightmares & Why Trades Burn You Out⚒️ Forge Life, Classes & Long-Term Plans🛠️ Tool Talk & Brand SnobberySupport us at Patreon  https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast or buy our merch tshirts stickers  Find us athttps://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/murrillforge/          www.murrillforge.com Email [email protected] Onur  https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/user/DiesineveryfilmChris https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd

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