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EPISODE · Mar 5, 2026 · 13 MIN

Episode 6 - Getting results that matter, which layer of the problem are you solving?

from Thoughts on Change: How to herd humans without losing your mind · host Kelly Mallery

Kelly explains that even with integrity, clear intent, relationships, and gemba time, credibility won’t stick without delivering results—solving not only the requested problem but also the hidden, unspoken one. She describes three layers behind common CI requests like “we need 5S”: the surface tool request, the performance gap (missed output, delays, excess inventory), and the deeper systems-and-behaviors layer where cultural friction determines whether change sustains. Implementing only what’s asked can actually hurt credibility because leaders expect the real problem to be solved. Kelly emphasizes two skills to reach deeper layers: insatiable curiosity through strong questions and judgment-free observation. In a 5S example, she uncovered output issues and leadership behaviors, coached both the team lead and leader, solved all three layers, and became a trusted cultural partner. She closes with actionable questions, a share/subscribe request, workshop offer, and a teaser for a first CI Warrior interview episode.00:00 Credibility Needs Results01:57 Why Tools Alone Fail03:43 Three Layers of Problems06:03 Skills to Go Deeper06:25 5S Story in Practice10:57 Action Steps and Questions12:24 Share Subscribe Next Episode13:22 Final Wrap and Mantra Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7E_s4YF7k Links:https://www.kellymallery.com/workshops

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