Dusty guests come get satisfied Pouring people in the place it's about that time. My name is Maximus Onesimus, your humble host here at the Sinclair. Right about now, I'm gonna have our esteemed guest introduce himself for all these crass pansy naysayers. Yeah, this is cool.
Rock. Last part of Ski used to be Steven the Fat Boy. The original Fat Boy. And just chilling.
That's good to hear. That's good to hear. I'm chilling as well. Rock.
Can I call you Rock? Yeah. Cool, cool. Thank you.
Please take us back to the beginning. How you first met Buff and Marquis. And then, of course, who were the artists that you guys looked up to at that time? Like, before actually coming out in the very early stages of you guys being a group.
We grew up in this thing. Locke, East, Steel, Brooklyn, and Mark. I met Mark first, and I met Buff later on. We were like teenagers, like maybe 13, 14 years old.
We just started. We're big football fans. We had adaptations of being football players. We get older and, you know, going to college, you want to play professional football.
But you. Those clans kind of went down the wrong track. So we started this whole hip hop thing. When we just started, we listened to guys like Grandma Series 5 and Chester Street, Felix 4, Hocus 4.
You know, those guys who open the door for us and, you know, we emulated them. So one thing led to another. We entered a rap and dance contest in 1983. And, yeah, we won first prize.
Oh, word. First place prize was a recording contract, just like you see in the movies. Press booth, you know. How old were you when you first inked up a sheet of appell?
Two months after Rapid White came out. So I had to be like, oh, between my age. Right now, I had to be like maybe 11 going on 12 that year. How go?
Well, I'm the old mighty beast skiing in the police for V. And I blocked from the bottom of the field. You know, stuff like that kind of stuff. What's that in the background?
That was the ice cream truck. And I don't know why he's out here, because it's like 60 degrees out here. What led to the three of you becoming the Disco 3 and later the Fat Boys? Well, our manager at the Comm, Charl, he had kind of a Ringling Brothers kind of mindset to himself when he came down to managing us.
And he figured the best way we can be marketed was to spin with a name that everybody will remember. So I guess Fat Boys is something. You know, everybody said name Fat Boys at one time. In their life.
So, of course he didn't agree with it. You know, we wanted to be called the Disco 3. And he kind of convinced us that this will be the best move we'll make. So we ran along with it.
And, you know, to this day, people still remember that name. At the time, were you flattered or were you ticked off by the skinny boys and then the fat girls? Yeah, the fat girl, Buffalo was kind of peeved up about it. He.
Yeah, he was really. I mean, he did a show with his wants to connect to the skinny boys, and he didn't want them to go on. And I was like, you know what I'm saying? We were young guy.
We didn't know he was doing what I'm saying. So looking back, you say it was slattery. It was even more flattering. Look out to look out for the audience.
You see 62,000 people, and you see people wearing shades, you know, like Baltimore. And you see people wearing fat boy T shirts. And, you know, you see people just emulating everything you do, you know, whether it be rap groups or just the fans, just emulating everything you do. People walking up to us and saying, you know, saying our lyrics to us and changing their lyrics or changing our lips around, putting their own names in, you know what I'm saying?
So that was crazy. What's your favorite fat boy song from the 80s? I'll be King Skillet, which is my favorite one favorite FBOYS album because it was so raw. Raw and short.
It's only seven songs. Yeah. You know what, to be honest with you, I had an interview with this guy, like, last month, and he was telling me, you only seven songs on your first album. I argue with this guy, like, seven songs.
He's like, yeah, cool. I can. Only seven songs. I said, you know what you talking about?
And I had to go back and look. And she knew. Only seven, basically an ep. I'm like, who was the biggest influence on y' all as a group back in the day?
And then the biggest influence on you specifically. But I questioned. Kumo D was like, you know, the epitome of what MC was back in the day. I mean, even to this day.
And they don't know the real story about how Cool D was, like, you know, the whole battle. I mean, Kumo D was like one of the silliest cats. The cats that came from that early era of hip hop that was using metaphors, you know, and he articulated his words so clear. I mean, he just had his dominating voice.
That's where I Got the name Dominating C, you know, because I heard Cool Movie a couple of times. His name, the Dominant Sea. I kind of picked that up. I'm like, well, he's not really using it as dude, you know, he's the dominant C.
When he was still with that line. And I even took the whole syllable, the three syllables. Cool Movie, co. That's how bad I wanted to.
I got a chance to meet him one day, and my hand was shit. You know, this is cool, Modi. You know what I'm saying? He turned to be a real cool guy, you know, but that's the guy who I really looked up to.
Okay, that's you. What about as a group, who was the biggest influence on the three of you? It had to be CO push 4. And they would take a hit song or even an outdated song and make a routine around it.
And, you know, I mean, back then, that was like, whoa, make the song. It's 1981 and before the year is done, everybody ought to know that we're on the Golden Chaser tone on the seven or stuff like that. So that was like, the co be looked up to. Of course, they're not the Class Series 5.
You might look up to them. Fantastical, manic, you know, they also was like big libraries of co press for Force mcs. You know, Speaking of the Force mcs, they later became the Force mds. And y' all collabed with them on a track called Rock the Bo.
And y' all smashed it with those big dominating voices. I used to play that for people and explain why you guys were the dominating MCs. What do you think where beboxing has gone, like, as far as this comes, you kind of feel proud being one of the crews that pioneered it, you know, because it's gotten pretty insane. Yeah, you have people blowing troops and then doing it with Fruit in the Loud and people doing it with horning.
And also it really got really. It got innovative with it and, you know, to be not being B anything. But I guess if you pop off on stage with maybe 90% of people that's doing it now, he would still destroy more, you know what I'm saying? Because he was just that good wit.
You asked the sound guys back in the 80s, and you can find these sound guys who were back in the 80s on the freshwater Store, on the White Dog tours that we were doing, they would tell you automatically, this guy was busting speakers. You know, they would come down after the show. Your homeboy killing up speaker last night. He broke up speaker.
I'm like, well, you know, take it out, take it out. Powerful way. You know, tell me more of the animated way. But Buff was straight up just basically scared and nice.
Time to interrupt this message because we've got the news. And now breaking news from the news team with your host Matt Pelissek. This is Matt Pelissek at the Sincast news desk with your hip hop headlines. The CW network is currently featuring the track Samurai Showdown from Shane Neville's debut album Formless.
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What was actually being said? I think you were about to ask a question about history, why don't you start out with something like where do you think the Fat Boy is? Where do you think the Fat Boys fit in hip hop history? Contribution wise, pioneering foundation.
Do you think you guys were overlooked a bit due to the comedy element? Well, I think our first ep. No, not you call it ep. I think our first album, nobody really knows.
I mean, a lot of people overlook that album. You have a lot of the critics who I still do interviews with to this day, they still say that's the classic, one of the best albums ever in hip hop. And then you have people that come along and try to use the whole gimmick thing that happened after the second album. And after the second album it started getting kind of comedy, you know.
So I think a lot of people are overlooking the first fat Boy's album, in fact. Oh man. What was actually being said? We would always do a reggae song on every other album for some reason.
So our producer at the time gave this idea about the Big Daddy. So he called Big Daddy. So that's where he came with the idea. It's going to take a pop daddy.
So it's battle, not Kato. Yeah. What about with Morrison for the track Rock ruling on album crushing? I was Buff doing that when he was doing fa.
He was always making fun of Mark in his Spanish. So he was doing that in the studio. Oh, a word. They're like, ha, that sounds good.
That's funny. Let's keep that right. Exactly. Exactly.
What circumstances led to Mark going solo and then you and Buff doing that last record? The circumstances with that was we cut off ties with our manager and our company cut off ties with us at the same time. As a matter of fact, our contract was shining, so we were like on free agents. So we went to sign with Sony and upon trying to get a deal with Sony, Mark told us he was on shoulder and we were like, nah, okay.
Gary prophesied in the hot Bob, whatever, you know. Two weeks later we ran into a guy who was trying to put together independent labels, you know, we ran with that. And after all that, Marquis went on to do some behind the scenes work. And from what I could tell, you kind of went into hiding.
The next time I remember being able to hear anything at all about you, it was on MTV or VH1. I don't remember. Basically a story about you dropping weight. I want a fat boy.
Sex got a buffer or whatever. Besides that, what was going on in your life during that apparent hiatus? And the million dollar question was where the Crew. I thought a lot of people got to jail.
A lot of people thought I was on drugs, I was in jail, I still wasn't on drugs, but I'm just still gone. After buck half past 95, I just took kind of a break from the music and I started enjoying life more, you know, because life wasn't all about the fat boys and all about music and being in the studio for you all day. It's all about just enjoying life. Especially after usually best friend at such an early, I'm like, well, let me just enjoy life.
Because women got one life to live, so might as well take advantage of it. And I just went on kind of a hiatus and just kind of sat back and just observed other things. As far as taking care of myself and going to the gym, I started studying the gym more and taking care of myself and eating the right kind of food. So that's pretty much what I did on my end.
Which leads us to where we're at right now. You and Marquis have reunited. Fill us in on that whole dilly. I put together eps back in April and it's called partycon.
So upon doing that, Mark heard some of the songs and he said, it'll be a good time for us to come back out with the album. He goes, you sound pretty good. He said, he still sounds good. So like, you know what, we gotta sit down, talk about it and see what direction we wanna go in with the album.
See what kind of collabos we can do with people. You know, we can't just put people in the album just because they're hot. We gotta put em in the script, our kind of music. So we said, let's make a habit.
What's poppin off in the back? The ice cream chores. I don't know why he's out here for her. Do you think hip hop has reached its peak?
Yeah, it's. I think it peaked a long time ago, to be honest with you. For political wise, it peaked me like 34 generation copy. Exactly.
Y' all down hip hop for what it is today. Because you do got some pretty good artists out there like Kylie Kweli, New Common. I even like what Jurassic 5 was doing a couple years ago. Yeah, what's golden?
Yeah, I hear y' all looking for a new third member. Is that an evil industry Liar. Sweet gospel true. Oh, we've been different for a third member at the same time.
Express that he gonna get down a couple of shows as well. We're gonna sit down with Dougie, we gonna sit down with my Gel you mentioned Dougie Fresh and Marel. Is there anyone else that you guys are considering working with on this upcoming Fat Boys release video like ips because they do kind of kind of music similar to what was going on. Especially Will I am him.
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We played some heat stings and now we get into the section I like to call or Karas1 or Rakim Karras1. He won the battle. Rapper Big Daddy Kang or Coogee Rap. Oh man, so many metaphors that happened over Big Daddy Kang though.
Big Daddy King or KRS1. KRS1. Kumo D or KRS1? Oh man.
Oh, now I have to go to Kumo D on that one. LL or KUMO D. Oh, LL is my man, but yeah, I gotta go Moody on that one. Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye?
Oh, man, they both had that political aspect in his song. Marvin Gaye. Billy Joe or Elton John? Billy Jones is the young boy I gotta go with.
Billy. Isaac Hayes or Barry White? Isaac Hayes. The Coast.
I gotta go. Isaac Hayes. MC Light or Lauryn Hill? I have to go with Light because light ain't no joke, man.
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Dos Effects or Fooshnickens? Dos Effects. Pete. Nice Order.
MC Search. MC Search. Sub Rock or Heavy D? Heavy Du or Josh Stone?
I go with Josh Stone, Adele or Amy Winehouse? Fresh Prince or Kwame? Fresh Prince or Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel? Whoa, man, that's coming, man.
I gotta go. My boy Phil on that one. Now Curtis Blow, boy. Sugar Hill Gang.
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Yo, this is Jeremiah Bonds and you're tuned in to the Sincast. We back and I'm still rocking live with the man Kurok Ski of the original Fat Boys. Kurok, who is your personal favorite MC of all time? Of all time.
Word, Word. You can name just a few. I use my top five, but no particular order. Top five.
Kumo D, Nelly Bell, Notorious, Baki, Gotta, Reverend Brolin J, Kiss and LL Cool J. I'm gonna leave a lot of people out. Name an MC that you think doesn't get the credit they deserve. Oh, Black boy, your favorite DJ of all time.
Oh, man. My man, late Mr. Janet J. A DJ that you don't gets the credit they deserve.
DJ Scratch from EPMD, your favorite hip hop producer of all time. Of course, Curtis Blow was pretty good. And then I post two album DJ Premier. A producer that you think is overlooked.
Premiere. Because Everybody's been with Dr. Dr. Dre, and Dr.
Dre is a good producer. But on the overlooked premiere, and I'm easy. Moby, what do you think about Jimmy Fallon hiring the Roots as his house band? He get flops on that one.
Putting the roof on like that what's taking place behind you, that was the ice cream. Chuck, maybe notice that you're personally a big fan of that you think would surprise most Fat Boys fans. Yeah, I like the Elton John. What are you saying?
Earlier when I said Billy Joel or Elton John, you picked Billy Joel and now you're saying Elton. Well, because Billy Joe from New York, I gotta go to hometown cat. But as far as his artist, Elton John is no joke. All right, all right.
The song that he has, the tiny dancer, I turn the volume down in the car. When that song comes on, I listen to it. Ha ha. Nah, nah, it's good, it's good.
Give me some artists and some producers that you like to work with, but you haven't yet had the opportunity. Dr. Dre. I went and worked with Heavy D.
That'd be a good collaboration. That's three. I went work with dmx. I'm like close to LL too.
Speaking of ll, that's one of the things that I think was missing to a degree back in the day, the collabs. You know what I'm saying? They've obviously went way overboard these days. And it's like you gotta have this collab and this collab.
But I think it had been great if there would've been some Crush Groove era collabs. I mean. Oh, yeah. Back then we were so busy trying to outdo one another that we didn't have time to really sit down and learn about one another, you know, that's how it was back then, you know.
Right now, it'll be honor to work with heavy D or LL. What's the status on Crush Groove Part 2? Executives and suits? Crush Groove Part 2 takes place where all the artists in the 80s are pretty much on the unfolded lockdown.
I think it'd be better to do a round table and talk about Crush Grove. If you had to give someone the recipe for Kurotsky, what would the ingredients be? 400 push ups every morning, 45 minutes on the exercise bike. My whole lot clean.
What's that noise? Ice cream truck. Oh. In several interviews and even in some tweets, I've noticed references to Christ by either your Prince Mark D and you've got Run and Chris Blow, who went on to be, you know, men of the cloth and whatnot.
I'm just saying it seems like a lot of dudes from that era have went on to find faith in Christ. And I'm just wondering where you stand on that. What's your take? A good portion of our listening audience are Christians.
That are hip hop heads. And I'd like to know what you're saying, homeboy. My mother, my father always told us to believe in God. And he always told me as a kid with God everything is possible.
So I pray the Lord Jesus Christ, you know, I'm not afraid to say. I'm not ashamed to say that rather there's a lot of things in my life I gotta take care of God. I do praise him enough, and I do believe in him. And I just try to pass that word alone.
Anybody want to hear it? I don't try to push it on it. Get a lot of people my age a little younger. Well, you know, you don't do nothing for me.
Well, you know, you got this money and you feel. I prank him every day, you know, and that's why I go to bed operation for another day. We really appreciate you making time for us. Feel free to go ahead and plug whatever you must.
Come out. And I'm trying to do some movie roles and television rolls as well. So if anybody out there listening, you know. Yeah, that's about it.
Anybody wants some. Some personal traits, got to give me one of them Fat Boys T shirts, you know what I'm saying? All right, man, it was great chatting with you. God bless you.