Episode 8: Structure, Subplots, and Swoon-Worthy Moments in Things We Never Got Over

Welcome to Story Deep Dive!In this episode, Rachel and Dana conclude their discussion of Things We Never Got Over by Lucy Score.Whether you're a writer, reader, or storyteller, you’ll gain valuable insights on crafting compelling romance novels, balancing structure and tropes, and deepening character development.You can also watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube!Estimate Timestamps00:00 – Introduction and Catching UpRachel and Dana start the episode with lighthearted banter before diving into updates on their current projects. Dana shares her excitement about an upcoming workshop and getting back into full work mode after vacation, while Rachel talks about navigating unexpected challenges at the start of the year.03:16 – Reading Slumps and Finding Good Reference BooksRachel discusses the challenge of selecting great books for client recommendations and how some published novels show storytelling weaknesses. She also introduces Assassin’s Creed Odyssey as an example of historical fiction done well in video games, sparking a conversation on storytelling across different mediums.10:46 – Storytelling Across Different MediumsDana and Rachel explore the differences between writing novels, short stories, and other formats like video games and screenplays. They emphasize the importance of respecting each medium’s unique constraints while applying universal storytelling principles.20:31 – Summary of Things We Never Got OverDana provides a fresh summary of Things We Never Got Over and why it’s a must-read for romance writers. The novel follows Naomi, a runaway bride who finds herself stranded in Knockemout, Virginia, only to be reluctantly helped by Knox, the town’s grumpy but protective barber. Their slow-burn romance unfolds amid small-town charm, humor, and unexpected challenges.26:46 – Key Takeaways: Structure, Tropes, and Plot DevelopmentRachel and Dana discuss how Things We Never Got Over balances complex subplots with a strong central romance. They highlight how Lucy Score keeps tension high throughout the novel’s length, ensuring readers stay engaged.42:11 – Using Tropes to Strengthen Conflict and Character ArcsDana explains how tropes aren’t restrictive but rather essential tools for crafting engaging narratives. She breaks down how the novel shifts between tropes—enemies to lovers, fake relationship, and real romance—to keep the story dynamic. Rachel, initially skeptical about tropes, gains a newfound appreciation for their storytelling power.58:31 – Creating Complex Characters with DepthA deep dive into how Lucy Score ensures every character has their own struggles and growth arcs, making the world feel rich and immersive. Rachel emphasizes that Naomi’s journey naturally intersects with the conflicts of secondary characters, keeping everything interconnected.1:10:16 – Heat Level and Slow Burn RomanceDana discusses how the novel maintains romantic tension despite being a slow burn. She shares insights on balancing chemistry, pacing, and emotional depth to keep readers invested, even before physical intimacy occurs.1:22:46 – Themes: The Emotional Core of the NovelRachel and Dana explore the novel’s deeper themes—healing, belonging, and personal growth. They stress that well-developed themes make stories more emotionally impactful and resonate with readers long after the last page.1:29:31 – Final Thoughts and Advice for WritersDana and Rachel wrap up the discussion by encouraging writers to study books like Things We Never Got Over for craft insights. They remind writers to focus on mastering one or two aspects at a time rather than overwhelming themselves.Book SelectionBearded, bad-boy barber Knox prefers to live his life the way he takes his coffee: Alone. Unless you count his basset hound, Waylon. Knox doesn’t tolerate drama, even when it comes in the form of a stranded runaway bride.Naomi wasn’t just running away from her wedding. She was riding to the rescue of her estranged twin to Knockemout, Virginia, a rough-around-the-edges town where disputes are settled the old-fashioned way…with fists and beer. Usually in that order.Too bad for Naomi her evil twin hasn’t changed at all. After helping herself to Naomi’s car and cash, Tina leaves her with something unexpected. The niece Naomi didn’t know she had. Now she’s stuck in town with no car, no job, no plan, and no home with an 11-year-old going on thirty to take care of.There’s a reason Knox doesn’t do complications or high-maintenance women, especially not the romantic ones. But since Naomi’s life imploded right in front of him, the least he can do is help her out of her jam. And just as soon as she stops getting into new trouble he can leave her alone and get back to his peaceful, solitary life.At least, that’s the plan until the trouble turns to real danger.Where to Find the BookThings We Never Got Over by Lucy Score is available in physical, ebook, and audiobook formats. It’s also widely available in libraries and online retailers. Details on the author’s website.Next Episode:In the next episode, Rachel and Dana will explore a new book, dissecting its structure, character arcs, and storytelling techniques. Be sure to tune in!Join the Conversation:Like what you heard? Subscribe, leave a review, and share your thoughts! Follow Story Deep Dive on your favorite platforms and connect with Dana and Rachel to keep the discussion going!Connect with Rachel and Dana at www.storydeepdive.com to keep the discussion going! This is a public episode. 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