Episode Four: Truth and Trickster - An Interview with Pat McCabe

In this fourth episode of the donkey and the bridge, I’m grateful to be joined from Taos, New Mexico by Pat McCabe, also known as Woman Stands Shining. Pat is one of the most inspiring and inspired voices I’ve ever come across, bringing an incredibly compassionate yet critical perspective to issues of indigenous knowledges, gender, colonisation, and the many illusions of separation that divide us. Pat McCabe is a Diné  mother, grandmother, activist, artist, writer, ceremonial leader, and international speaker. She is a voice for global peace who draws upon the Indigenous sciences of Thriving Life to reframe questions about sustainability and balance. She is devoted to supporting the generations to come, and upholding the honor of being human.