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I'm Cara Swisher. And this is Scott Galloway. Hello Scott. Where are you?
Where are you? I am in New York where it is a surprisingly mild summer. It is. Is it nice?
I'm here in Los Angeles. I actually can talk about this because I built a suite. I'm on the next season of Silicon Valley, and I spent the day in my trade. Robert in my face.
I know what I'm saying. I'm a television star. I probably will win an Emmy, so I just want you to get ready for that story. That's true Cara.
You're just a star. I love going. They have all the craft food. They've got all this stuff.
It's kind of fun to have a trailer. I almost got locked in my trailer. Eric Anderson was with me, and we got locked in, and we thought, well, this is interesting. So it was great.
And then we were also here looking at some stuff, some stuff for events that maybe you and I will do, Scott. And they had a cryogenics chamber that cryotherapy. Not genetics. I'm not getting my head cut off, but it's one of those refrigerators.
I'm hoping for you to get in it at some point. It'll be great. I like that because I want to feel 53 again. That's my goal.
I want to go back. One was freezing. One was infrared, something or other. They put the suit on you, and then they squeezed you.
Like you're a boa constrictor. It was cool. It's called upgrade. It's this really cool.
You have to upgrade your body. It completely made me think of you, Scott Galloway. I don't know what that means, but I'll go with it. But back to HBO, have you seen Chernobyl?
No. My son has. He liked it. He's a great line in there at the end.
It reminds me a lot of the issues we're facing in America today. And the lead character says at the end that every lie incurs a debt against the truth. And at some point that debt comes due. I just thought that was so profound and deep and meaningful.
And I think about it, even what bothers me more than Trump is this notion. It feels like over the last 10 years, this notion that if you repeat a lie three times, it's the truth. 100% Scott is upsetting me. I, in fact, was watching the loudest voice in the room, which is about the rail.
He is the patient zero of this shit. Oh, my God. And that guy is clearly a genius. I mean, we're pinging around here, but you and I both share an affection for TV.
He was a genius in two ways. One wasn't. It seems obvious now that media, anyone who goes into media typically goes to college and surrounds themselves with other liberals. And his basic observation was media has this crazy liberal bias and there's a huge opening for the other 50% of the nation.
Incredible genius. And the second thing was he realized, okay, let's detach news from the truth and make an entertainment. And that was really, I think about that has been really damaging. Let's talk about debates.
Let's talk about debates. Let me hear your thoughts. I only watch it on Twitter. So let me hear your thoughts.
Can you even do that? I did. I couldn't assume everything on Twitter. Okay.
So I was hoping for you to go first and re-fop it. I think it did their job because I don't feel like anybody was the standout winner or loser. The off-card people who shouldn't have been on the stage, quite frankly, injected some very interesting things into their debate. I thought, you know, Yang had some interesting viewpoints.
The leaders, I think, still came out kind of the leaders. The thing that reflecting on it that I think is sort of strange and a shame is that the two quote unquote wins of the debates were seen as individuals, quite frankly, calling one progressive, calling another progressive a racist. And that was the key moment in both all the debates was Senator Harris basically calling Joe Biden a racist. And then the key moment of quote unquote the key win from last night was Tulsi Gabbard basically calling Senator Harris a racist.
And I wonder if- I mean, the end times Tulsi Gabbard, she was so quite confident. Well, yeah. Tulsi Gabbard who, you know, is an apologist for Assad and quite frankly probably shouldn't be on the debate stage. And I wonder if we, if the Democratic National Committee, who is severely pivoted away from deciding that they're there to elect one candidate, which is what they did with 16 in Hillary, to putting anybody on stage, you are literally going to have 100 people decide to run for president in the next cycle because all of the people who have no chance of being president were on stage, it was the ultimate branding and marketing event for them.
Andrew Yang is now almost a household name. Nobody knew who he was. Well, he did very well. As I predicted, again, you didn't think he was much and when I did that podcast, I was like, this guy's got some great ideas.
I thought he inject himself rather with rather some smart stuff. I guess it certainly doesn't seem way off base, even though he goes back to UBI all the time. Okay. But is being Oprah spiritual counselor, being a modestly successful businessman with great ideas, is that qualify you to get you on the main stage for people who serve for 30 years?
I don't. Yeah. But why does a career politician get to do that? I'm sorry.
Like, like, why do we have to take that as your, as your, it's been your job your entire life is to be a politician. I don't know because the only, I mean, the only president we have who wasn't a career politician has been a disaster. So I do think there's a filter here and I wonder if the DNC needs to step in and start being a little bit. I think there's a balance here.
I'm not sure that some of those people should have been on stage taking oxygen away because where we've ended up with these debates is the only people who are going to survive and get to the next round are the people who are able to come up with a gotcha moment in 60 seconds or less. I'm not sure that's the accurate filter for distilling people down the president. I'll tell you one thing I was struck by was the attacks in Obama last night. I was like, mmm, maybe not so much.
Although I have to say, I don't think Obama's spoken enough enough in this era. I know he's trying to make remove himself, but it's not normal times. And I think he should, you know, stop playing basketball and do those kinds of shoots and talk about it. I think once they kind of sort out their stuff and the dust settles and we have a nominee, I think he's going to be.
Yeah. I'm talking about the Trump seven general. Like a speaker. There's a general code among former presidents.
I don't care. Guess what? New times, new times are new measures. I'm sorry.
Too bad. It's not normal anymore. But I do think that attacking him was a mistake by a lot of him. He seemed to be going after him and not Trump.
Oh, by the way, your friend and a future ex Mrs. Galloway Maureen Dowd had a fantastic column this week. She had one of the best lines when she was talking about to impeach her, not to impeach. Such a clear blue flame thinker.
She said, never has there been anything so obvious that he's clearly triggered the need for an impeachment, but never has anything so clearly obvious, been so obviously stupid. And I thought that just perfectly summarizes. Except it just passed the halfway mark among Democrats in the House, so it may be beyond Maureen and Nancy Pelosi. Yeah.
But there's 52 senators. I mean, what's the point of the distraction? I'm just talking. Anyways, I thought she was fantastic.
I thought that was a great. Indeed. But let's get to tech. There wasn't much talk of tech there.
You know, Danne Bash asked Senator Bennett or one of our favorites about what to do about automation. Not much of an answer. And then Bernie Sanders and Yang mentioned Amazon and prompted, but that was not much was posed in the state. There was nothing by it from any of those CNN people about tech at all, which is fine.
I don't expect that to be a big topic or maybe rise to even though there's been a lot of news about tech. Yeah. Well, there's Yang again, had a great point here. And it's not immigrants that have taken your job.
It's robots. Yeah. And automation and a little bit of offshoring. But, you know, my sense is.
That was a good point. And I think somebody had this great moment in his campaign where he said, I forget he went somewhere in the heartland. He said, your job? He said, they're not coming back.
Come to him and tell you they are, but these jobs aren't coming back. And I think we have to have that moment where someone says, look, we need to embrace a global economy. We need to embrace automation. You can't, I don't believe, I don't think you can protect jobs or you can protect people.
And what we have to do with some of the spoils of that incredible automation and productivity is invest in some of those people who are the losers. We just haven't recognized the kind of reinvestment we need to make in the losers. I mean, in Germany, 60% of people under the age of 30 have experienced some sort of occasional artisanal training. And it's 6% in the US because we've drank the cool light that the only way to success is either a college degree or to drop out and hopefully you're JZ.
And there's got to be some sort of mid, there's got to be some medium speed, but he brought that up around automation. He was very good. So Amazon or should we talk Amazon and Apple earnings? Yes, we will admit it.
But first is to finish the political stuff. Rico's, Ronnie Mola, talked about Google employees are giving more money to Elizabeth Warren than any other candidate. Who did judges number two? Sanders number three.
And what's interesting, here's a quote from Ronnie's story, Google employees are putting their support behind Warren and Sanders because they don't think antitrust action would hurt Google much. A number of them told Rico that Warren's plan to regulate Google might even be better for it in the long run. It wouldn't even be in line with Google's own ethos. So anyway.
So I have a personal anecdote here. When I was on the board of the New York Times, I bring up every 90 days because I think it makes it more impressive than I am. Yeah. And a board meeting in front of the about.com CEO and some about professionals, I said, we should contemplate spinning about because it could get a $2 billion market cap and right now it's being weighed down because everyone looks at us and goes to your newspaper business and assigns us a shitty multiple.
And Arthur and Janet, and I do think there's a 10-year statute of limitations on transparency in the boardrooms. But so I am speaking a bit out of school, but I think I do have some license that I walked out of the room and the about people practically French kiss me. I mean, they were literally, if you don't think YouTube employees or Google employees, I've been employees who worked for the autonomous driving group or Waymo or YouTube, are excited about the breakup and having options and participation directly linked to their efforts, which by the way, by virtue of being who you are in information economy and thinking you're smarter than you are, they believe that YouTube, every person in every division of Google thinks they're the ones carrying the company. Right.
And they also recognize that, okay, if I'm going faster than the core business, I get to hire multiple on my equity and I get the Hampton's house and the share in net jets faster. So a breakup while publicly known can stay there in favor of it, I would bet the majority of the people at Google and Facebook, you don't think that people were going to Instagram about to be an independent company? Yes, they would. I know.
Oh my gosh. Come on. Oh, AWS. I work at AWS.
I want to be the only pure play cloud company in the world growing faster than every other cloud company. I want options on that company. Oh my gosh. Agree.
Spin me. Spin me. Well, let's talk about these. There's earnings coming in.
There's more to come Amazon and Apple. And what was interesting, I tweeted this week, it was part of a column there that Amazon now has 8.8% of the US digital ad market up 53% from a year ago. And obviously Apple did earnings thoughts, it's not going to happen. Okay.
Okay. Think about this. Amazon. All right.
Two words. Amazon Media Group is now in the US half the size of Facebook's. Tell me more. I mean, is that how you say that?
Did you see that coming? Go on. Do you see that coming? Amazon Media Group.
Yes, I did. We were all hoping to be a third player in the ecosystem. He's so cute. And he likes care and care likes Amazon.
Like we have a third. Unfortunately, it's Amazon. Yeah. Amazon is coming for Google and Facebook.
We have never seen a company like this firing on all 12,000 cylinders and again, the market's got their earnings wrong. Oh my God. For the first time in five quarters, Amazon's profits are down. That's the point.
Shitheads when the executive team of Amazon comes in and updates Bezos and says our profits are up record profits. He looks around the room and he goes, you fucked up green light every catbacks in the world because our core competence are advantage over the rest of the world. Despite the fact we're the third most valuable company in the world and over a trillion dollars, the marketplace lets us continue to reinvest a hundred cents on the dollar and the moment you get the marketplace stuck or addicted to the crack of cane of profits like unfortunately Apple investors are, we lose our core advantage. So this is exactly down on the table.
100% right. This is exactly this is if anyone thinks that anyone at Amazon was disappointed or wasn't expecting or wasn't pre planned to take their earnings down, all they want to do is say to people, I am so ridiculously fucking hot, I can be profitable whenever I want, but guess what? I choose not to. I choose not to.
Yeah. The advertising business is fascinating. Oh my God. Talk about data on people.
I mean, Google and Facebook obviously have a lot of behavioral data, but they've got buying data. And that to me is so about. The amount of stuff Amazon knows about me is just really disturbing on some of the levels. Crazy.
Apple. Apple. Apple. So what are your thoughts on that?
You're contrasting them to Amazon then. But see, Apple was really interesting. Apple, if someone, I deal a lot with lawyers, different stuff I'm involved with and one lawyer who works a lot with back when I was an activist and stirring up trouble companies, he said to me, I have access to inside information all the time. And if I trade it on it, I would be broke.
And that is, you think, that's an amazing thing about the market. It's just really unpredictable. If you look at inside information, unless it's really obvious, the company getting taken out for $100 a share when it's trading at 80, but you never know how the market's going to react. And what was interesting about Apple's earnings was they missed on the services revenue, which is the recurring revenue.
That's Apple care, Apple music, the amount of money they get from Google to offer Google is their core search engine. And I think that is the most important part of the business right now is figuring out a way to take people from transactional revenue space to a recurring revenue space in that business, missed expectations, which I would have thought would have taken the stock down. But what exceeded expectations was the wearables, specifically the Apple Watch and the AirPods, which are now 10% of the business, as opposed to 7% of the business. That's because I buy a new one every week, because I lose them.
But go ahead. And you're on Silicon Valley wearing those things. So, but anyways, the wearables division, I think it was up 58%, it's not 10% of businesses at 7. And the stock was up.
The stock, and I think this is great, sweet revenge. The stock was up $4.5 or $45 billion in one day. The value of Dell. And I remember in 2000 at Davos, Michael Dell saying that Apple should be closed down and sold for scrap.
And now Apple is adding the market capitalization of Dell in a single day. But he will never live down. But he also said on the stage that all things digital, many of you do. Yeah.
But it shocked me that the marketplace responded that way, that wearables seem to be, and then we did a word cloud. This is what Dorks do on evenings and weekends. I did a word cloud with one of the analysts here on their earnings call. And they mentioned wearables 14 times versus four times in their last earnings call.
And it's clear that wearables for them, you know, this whole notion of an ecosystem is, you know, they're trying to, you know, they're trying to, they're trying to, and I got this wrong. I thought the Apple Watch had jumped the shark. I just didn't think it made any sense. Well, they are doing other stuff.
I mean, they have to move beyond all this. They're not just wearables to the phone itself. And so you see, you know, a growth in their services business, their credit card is coming, you know, they're moving into lots of adjacent spaces, which is. Oh, and by the way, who who's thrown up on themselves, the kind of the opposite of Apple is Samsung.
Samsung struggling. Yeah. Which is Apple. Where to the growth is coming?
Name one thing and then we have to get to the break. Each company, Amazon, Apple, and then Disney's next week, we can talk about it. Where's the growth coming from each of them? One thing you think.
I still believe with Apple, it's services with Amazon is clearly Amazon media group with Disney. It'll be the moment. No, no, it doesn't. Okay.
What was the other one? I'm good. I'm done. I'm here.
No, we have wins and fails to go. And I'm going to read some advertising that helped pay for your giant salary. Okay. I'm a said Herndon.
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All right, wins and fails. Please go first. Would you please? Okay, so my win is restoration hardware.
I think that I was at the plot. So I had one of these plots of concepts in the me packing district and the CEO there, Gary Friedman, who full disclosure, I would call him loosely a friend. We're not close. I don't know.
We're not close. I don't know. We like each other and we see each other and we're not close. But anyways, my point is this guy's a mad genius and typically in business, the way to add shareholder value is to be the second to do something and copy other people's and innovate.
And restoration hardware literally does ridiculously crazy things to build 120,000 square foot palazzo in the middle of the me packing district and then put a restaurant on top that doesn't serve alcohol. I've been there. I've been to that restaurant. They're doing these ridiculous numbers out of this thing.
And they literally decide. They're going crazy. The stock is not going to take it. It's it's nuts.
And some of the things he told me there's planning to do is trying to create an ecosystem around hospitality and landscaping and design and none of this makes any sense. None of it makes any sense until they do it and then it's genius and they are taking such risks. Try the experiential thing. Like, you know, Barney's member Barney's had something on the roof and stuff like that.
Yeah. But a player's playing that's playing that environmental situation. Okay. Armani Cafe and Rafflin, we're not talking about a place where Upper East Side ladies have lunch to go have brunch on Sunday.
Okay. But restoration hardware is doing is something. It involves yachts, planes, a new concept in hotels, landscaping. You hear this stuff.
And as someone who's been on board, you go, that's crazy. And then they do this stuff. And you're right. It's crazy.
Like the Caso genius. And it's inspiring that the firms out there. It's a couch. Goodness sake.
Really crazy. Oh, they're creating an ecosystem. It's inspiring. I have to say three restoration hardware pieces.
I like them a lot. It's because they're super boring looking like they're not like I know they're tasteful because I have no taste. And so I know they look good. But they're they're they're wonderful.
I have to say I like there's company it's inspiring because they've decided we have a vision. Let's be fearless about it. Let's do it. And the crazy stuff occasionally really changes things.
And I find what they do just incredibly inspiring. And then look at on the other side. Look at pottery barn. Pottery barn used to be the player and home furnishings.
So restoration hardware isn't the truck that's run over pottery barn. It's the bold. It's run it over and then back up and gored the shit out of it. The board members of Williams Sonoma, Inca owned pottery barn.
I mean, my question to them is for God's sakes, don't you get tired of someone kicking you in the nuts every day as restoration hardware as for the last decade, Williams Sonoma literally needs an activist. They have been the definition of uninspiring for the last decade. They have. I think that's your job, Scott.
I think you should do that. All right. Anyway, that's my winner's restoration hardware. My fail is my fail is beyond meat.
And this goes to my prediction. Okay. Oh, interesting. Someone's one of the grips on stage was asking me about that yesterday at my television appearance on Silicon Valley.
I will be winning an Emmy. Go ahead. Okay. $13 billion market cap on quarterly revenues of 65 million.
So we're talking about a company trading at about 50 times revenues, which makes Facebook and the heyday look cheap. I mean, this is this is a company that might change the way it's kind of like a Tesla and that is what changed the world. Or is it overvalued and potentially going to go out of business? The answer is yes.
Beyond meat is the new Tesla in my view. It just doesn't make any sense. This goes to my prediction that the stock is going to be cut in half in the next 12 months. And it all goes back to something much deeper care.
And that is at Royce Hall at University of California, Los Angeles, one of the greatest second greatest public college in America is behind University of California Berkeley. But anyways, at Royce Hall, there's two towers and one of them is slightly obtuse or doesn't put to the other because the architect is prescribed to this theory that effectively when you attempt to do something in total architectural perfection, you're mimicking God, which is blasphemy. And I feel that I know that personally when I first moved to New York and I didn't have a lot of relationships and I just gotten divorced and I was kind of feeling down and I don't believe in God. And the difference, I feel that spiritual void in my life with one thing and you know what that one thing was?
Drink it. Bacon. And what is beyond me trying to do, they are mimicking God by trying to replicate bacon and they are about to be punished. I didn't know where that story was going.
They are about to be punished. If you want, if you want to. If you want to do. If you want to do.
I thought that story was going. But go ahead. Oh my God. Give your dog a pig's ear.
Have you ever done that? Oh my God. Try and get your kids to love you the rest of your life. That takes therapy.
Tough but gentle college. Just give the dog a pig's ear. Yours for the rest of its life. Beyond me.
I'm going to circle back to be on me. All right. We're going to circle back on that. Overvalued.
Stock failure. Okay. I got it. The only overvalued cut in half in the next 12 months.
I know when to get you for Christmas. I know. I thought one of the ones was again Ronny Mullis she put in a Freedom Information Act which is fantastic thing journals can use to get all of ICE's technology contracts and she published them. Some of the 27 pages of tech companies are working with ICE including Peter Tails company.
Palantier has been paid more than $92 million for different things. All sorts of different things. Other partners include Dell, Concur, Microsoft and dozens more. And so the question is what's the upshot for these companies obviously contracts and is there any backlash that company like Microsoft should worry about?
I don't know. It's an interesting question because in some cases it's an issue for a lot of people to do. Okay. Let me just ask people why shouldn't they work with ICE?
Well, that's the thing. That's the question. I just want transparency. Who's working with it?
When you ask them they hide it. When I ask the AWS that he wouldn't say it if you're working for them. So I like the idea that it's a win that it's transparent. Then we can debate the issue and people who work there can decide.
A lot of people who don't want to work for ICE even if it's just HR software. They don't want to help them in their thing. I'm just saying I just like the idea that it's out in the open transparency. The same thing I want to have happen is with the FTC and I want to file a free information act.
It's like how do they make that decision with Facebook? I want to know exactly what happened and they keep it hidden from us. And so if they're so proud of their decisions they should tell us how they should show us their homework. I like showing their homework.
That's what I like. That's my win is the ability to get more transparency out of these companies. The fail I think was again Facebook with its mind rating tech is announced two years ago. They have updates and stuff.
It's an interface for decoding spoken dialogue from brain signals which disturbs me because it's Facebook. It implants sensors on the brain and uses them to record brain activity or something to do not want Facebook to do. And let me put Casey Newton from the version pointed out in his newsletter, the interface. This seems like a good time to ask whether any of this work should be done in the first place.
It's in the nature of these technologies to improve exponentially often away from public view and to mature before any real public conversation about them can take place. Again, my theme which is a win and a fail is we don't have transparency around these things. We're going to have the same terrible situations that happen all the time. Thank you.
Well, there's a lot there. But my question is if you're an American company and you're a public company which by virtue of that means you've benefited enormously from an infrastructure and ecosystem of public education system, financial markets, the armed services who protect our borders and generally fantastic software weapons, the things we're really good at. Then why on earth would the most noble customer in the world be the U.S. government?
And then who are these people to be in a position to decide which government agencies are less than or more noble than the others? Isn't the first client any American company should want to work for or be open to working for is a... It's like maybe not this administration. Like look, administration...
We can do that. We're going to stop working for the government every four or eight years based on who we like. Well, maybe. I don't know.
But what would happen if it got more and more like that? But the majority of the people working at ICE were there pre-Trump. I don't understand the whole movement around people somehow shaming companies for working for the U.S. government.
The United States government is the most noble entity in the history of mankind. It turned... It's almost cured, in my opinion, that the CDC and research in our system has hopefully arrested HIV and we turn back Hitler. Like what other companies done that?
What other organizations done that? So I say... We do some better things recently. We've done a lot of great things.
But you know what I mean? I think... It's good to, again, transparency is all that. Then you can make a choice.
You can decide whether to work for a pound or two. You can decide whether to work. Like I think a lot of this sort of hidden in the shadows. It reminds me of a piece I did back in 2016 when all the tech leaders...
I'm trying to hide it. I happen to write a story about it. So it got out. But the skulking is what bothers me.
Okay, you want to do this? Tell me what you're doing. You want to do your face thing? Let me let's debate it publicly.
Let's have a lot. The only people that should matter are people who are elected officials. Even if you don't think they're great, they were elected officials. And so what I don't like is these tech companies making decisions behind the scenes for us.
But in any case, we can debate this, Mr. Patriot. So predictions. I gave you my prediction.
Beyond me, it's cut in half in the next four months. Okay. All right, that's a good one. What about impossible foods and stuff like that?
Look, I think it's a fascinating category. It's a very complex from there. What I'll call plant-based slumber, the same way Tesla has woken up Germans and Americans from their electric slumber. It's going to be good for the planet.
We're all going to be fascinated at how, you know, not bad fake bacon tastes, although let's be honest, it can't replace the real thing, but it's faking. It's called faking. That's right. Faking.
That's right. Faking. Anyway, that's okay. The other predictions.
I don't have predictions. That's your job. I don't have to do that anyway. I predict that you're probably going to be right about it.
That's what I predict. I appreciate that. We'll talk about Tesla and the others next week. I'm going to be on John Levitt's show.
Love it or leave it. I am somewhat cheating on you, Scott. What you were on some a lot of podcasts lately, I noticed. What else have you been on?
I'm on a ton of podcasts. I'm on all the touchy feeling once now because of this book, my book, my book, Happiness. Number 13, I have a hardcover, nonfiction by angry press, professors with a rectal dysfunction. Oh, and by the way, speaking of rankings, hold on, Apple created a new category called news commentary.
And who is number one for a good 36 hours last week? You and I. That's right. That's right.
It's not one dog. It's not one cat. It's a kennel and it's the best kennel in the world. That's right.
That's right. You're a dog. Am I the cat? I'm Michael Jordan going to play baseball now.
It makes no sense, but I just want to leave on a high note. Okay. That was great. That was great.
We're very popular. We are very popular. Thank you. Thank you.
Do more, Scott. We need to do more. Seriously, I'd like to just really give a heartfelt thank you to our dozens and dozens of fans out there the two in every week. No, there's so many.
We're number one. We are number one just for today, but thank you. That was wonderful. I don't like toot my own horn.
Oh, yeah. No more than 11 times a day. Let's talk about your medals from Georgetown. I might say I was just on a television show that will be appearing on HBO.
That will be fantastic. That'll be fantastic. I like that. Scott, it's been great.
It has been great. We're going to talk about next week. There's a lot going on. I'm going to be coming from Provincetown, Massachusetts.
I'm going to drive down to Bruce De and talk to you from there. That's where I'm going with the game. Me and the game. All right.
We'll talk next week. I'll see you soon, Scott. Thanks, Kara. Today's show was produced by Rebecca Sonones and Eric Johnson.
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