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EPISODE · Feb 17, 2025 · 44 MIN

Flavors of DevRel: tummeling, docs, SDKs, meetings, and conferences

from Build and Learn · host CJ Avilla, Colin Loretz

In this episode, we reconnect for season 3, after a short hiatus to chat about life in Developer Relations (DevRel) at bigger companies, the avalanche of meetings that come with onboarding, the rollercoaster of prepping for big events like GDC, and the ongoing quest to create top-tier documentation and SDKs. We swap tips for maximizing AI tools, reflect on building the DevRel muscle from scratch, and share some fun side stories about local AI models, the surprising details that delight developers, and the importance of building reusable content for conferences.Topics CoveredDevRel at a Big CompanyBalancing one-on-ones, onboarding tasks, and project management meetings.Strategies for politely pruning your calendar so actual work gets done.Why dev advocates end up as “tummelers,” making sure every voice is heard in a bustling org.GDC & Conference PrepThe crunch leading up to a big event—workshops, talks, documentation updates, and unexpected scope creep.Juggling multiple presentations and deciding what content should be reusable or recorded.First steps planning DevRel activities for major company conferences.Flavor Variations of Dev AdvocacyComparing DevRel at a self-serve startup (like Stripe) vs. an enterprise environment where devs aren’t always the decision-makers.How to navigate new responsibilities, from establishing YouTube channels to championing better docs platforms.SDK Generation & Documentation ChallengesThe pros and cons of self-built vs. third-party, auto-generated SDKs.Maintaining a polished, dev-friendly experience across multiple languages.Cleaning up an OpenAPI spec, ensuring thorough examples and descriptions.Balancing “thin vs. full-featured” SDK approaches (retries, pagination, error handling, oh my!).Insights on Tools & AIHow many AI services are too many AI services? (ChatGPT, Claude, Cursor, Descript, ElevenLabs, local LLaMa, etc.)Encouraging new coders (like Logan!) to lean on AI-driven dev tools and embrace prompt engineering.Will auto-generated SDKs eventually make handcrafted clients obsolete? Maybe…but not quite yet.Write the DocsExcitement around giving a talk at the Write the Docs conference on open-source documentation.Lessons learned from letting the community contribute PRs, and how it all ties back to building dev relationships.Fun Developer DelightsAppreciating the “little things” in product design—from underscore-only API keys that copy easily, to IKEA coffee mugs that drain flawlessly in dishwashers.Why it’s worth fighting for extra developer-experience polish (and how that shapes product love).Resources MentionedWrite the Docs https://www.writethedocs.orgOpenAPI Initiative https://www.openapis.orgReadMe (API Documentation Platform) https://readme.comFern (SDK Generation) https://www.fernapi.comSpeakeasy (SDK Generation) https://www.speakeasyapi.devStainless (SDK Generation) https://stainlessapi.comOrbit (Community Tools) https://orbit.loveStripe https://stripe.comDescript https://www.descript.comElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.ioAnthropic https://www.anthropic.comVercel’s v0 (AI App Builder) https://v0.dev

In this episode, we reconnect for season 3, after a short hiatus to chat about life in Developer Relations (DevRel) at bigger companies, the avalanche of meetings that come with onboarding, the rollercoaster of prepping for big events like GDC, and the ongoing quest to create top-tier documentation and SDKs. We swap tips for maximizing AI tools, reflect on building the DevRel muscle from scratch, and share some fun side stories about local AI models, the surprising details that delight developers, and the importance of building reusable content for conferences.Topics CoveredDevRel at a Big CompanyBalancing one-on-ones, onboarding tasks, and project management meetings.Strategies for politely pruning your calendar so actual work gets done.Why dev advocates end up as “tummelers,” making sure every voice is heard in a bustling org.GDC & Conference PrepThe crunch leading up to a big event—workshops, talks, documentation updates, and unexpected scope creep.Juggling multiple presentations and deciding what content should be reusable or recorded.First steps planning DevRel activities for major company conferences.Flavor Variations of Dev AdvocacyComparing DevRel at a self-serve startup (like Stripe) vs. an enterprise environment where devs aren’t always the decision-makers.How to navigate new responsibilities, from establishing YouTube channels to championing better docs platforms.SDK Generation & Documentation ChallengesThe pros and cons of self-built vs. third-party, auto-generated SDKs.Maintaining a polished, dev-friendly experience across multiple languages.Cleaning up an OpenAPI spec, ensuring thorough examples and descriptions.Balancing “thin vs. full-featured” SDK approaches (retries, pagination, error handling, oh my!).Insights on Tools & AIHow many AI services are too many AI services? (ChatGPT, Claude, Cursor, Descript, ElevenLabs, local LLaMa, etc.)Encouraging new coders (like Logan!) to lean on AI-driven dev tools and embrace prompt engineering.Will auto-generated SDKs eventually make handcrafted clients obsolete? Maybe…but not quite yet.Write the DocsExcitement around giving a talk at the Write the Docs conference on open-source documentation.Lessons learned from letting the community contribute PRs, and how it all ties back to building dev relationships.Fun Developer DelightsAppreciating the “little things” in product design—from underscore-only API keys that copy easily, to IKEA coffee mugs that drain flawlessly in dishwashers.Why it’s worth fighting for extra developer-experience polish (and how that shapes product love).Resources MentionedWrite the Docs https://www.writethedocs.orgOpenAPI Initiative https://www.openapis.orgReadMe (API Documentation Platform) https://readme.comFern (SDK Generation) https://www.fernapi.comSpeakeasy (SDK Generation) https://www.speakeasyapi.devStainless (SDK Generation) https://stainlessapi.comOrbit (Community Tools) https://orbit.loveStripe https://stripe.comDescript https://www.descript.comElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.ioAnthropic https://www.anthropic.comVercel’s v0 (AI App Builder) https://v0.dev

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