Forget Sticks and Stones. The N-Word Can Break Bones. episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 11, 2026 · 58 MIN

Forget Sticks and Stones. The N-Word Can Break Bones.

from Wait, I'm Black?! · host WIB Podcast

In this episode of Wait, I’m Black?!, Michael sits in conversation with Grace Mosuro – inclusion specialist, speaker and advocate – about moving to the UK as a child, and the experiences that transformed her understanding of race, identity and belonging. Grace reflects on being called the N-word for the first time. Her first reaction was not outrage, but confusion, only gradually realising it was directed at her. They explore what happens when the way you see yourself collides with the way the world sees you, and discuss identity, belonging, exclusion, representation, and the subtle ways people learn where they are – and are not – expected to fit. Grace also reflects on how these experiences have informed her work and her commitment to helping create environments where people feel seen, valued and able to thrive. This is a thoughtful conversation about race, self-discovery, and the moments that can fundamentally change how we understand ourselves and our place in the world. If you would like to follow the journey, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts or follow us on Instagram (@wibpodcast). And if you – or someone you know – has a “Wait, I’m Black?!” moment you’d like to share, you are welcome to reach out.

In this episode of Wait, I’m Black?!, Michael sits in conversation with Grace Mosuro – inclusion specialist, speaker and advocate – about moving to the UK as a child, and the experiences that transformed her understanding of race, identity and belonging. Grace reflects on being called the N-word for the first time. Her first reaction was not outrage, but confusion, only gradually realising it was directed at her. They explore what happens when the way you see yourself collides with the way the world sees you, and discuss identity, belonging, exclusion, representation, and the subtle ways people learn where they are – and are not – expected to fit. Grace also reflects on how these experiences have informed her work and her commitment to helping create environments where people feel seen, valued and able to thrive. This is a thoughtful conversation about race, self-discovery, and the moments that can fundamentally change how we understand ourselves and our place in the world. If you would like to follow the journey, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts or follow us on Instagram (@wibpodcast). And if you – or someone you know – has a “Wait, I’m Black?!” moment you’d like to share, you are welcome to reach out.

NOW PLAYING

Forget Sticks and Stones. The N-Word Can Break Bones.

0:00 58:44

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Wait, I'm Black?!?

This episode is 58 minutes long.

When was this Wait, I'm Black?! episode published?

This episode was published on June 11, 2026.

What is this episode about?

In this episode of Wait, I’m Black?!, Michael sits in conversation with Grace Mosuro – inclusion specialist, speaker and advocate – about moving to the UK as a child, and the experiences that transformed her understanding of race, identity and...

Can I download this Wait, I'm Black?! episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!