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EPISODE · Mar 27, 2026 · 1H 1M

From Control Systems to Cosmic Love: An Engineer's Spiritual Awakening

from The Thinning · host Steven Martin

Gail Behrend spent twenty years as a mechanical engineer, learning to think in systems, control the variables, and add factors of safety. Then a relationship ended, she hit bottom, and something completely outside her engineering training showed up. A voice. A rush of energy. An experience of love so total it redrew her entire map of reality. In this conversation, Gail and Steven find that a control systems engineer and an ordained minister have been asking the same questions from very different starting points, and that the answers, when they come, feel a lot alike.

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Gail Behrend spent twenty years as a mechanical engineer, learning to think in systems, control the variables, and add factors of safety. Then a relationship ended, she hit bottom, and something completely outside her engineering training showed up....

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