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New has found something that he's calling the original show tape. Um, and there's another show tape. I has an excerpt from it real quick. Maybe you understand what he's talking about.
It's the excerpt. Your new favorite, Dr. Smokke, Renaissance, Fruzan, Fernando, Jason, Mu and Eric. So yes, that's something that it's from a piece that he's very, very proud of.
He talks about it like it's the greatest thing he's ever done. And the little bits I have out of it are, they seem to be abrasive to me. And, um, I worry, I worry, it's quite abrasive. And I want to make sure before this onslaught begins.
Big deal, the original show tape. Before all that help up starts. I wanted to make sure that we checked in with the devil. I doubt.
That's what you're thinking of now. What's going on with you? Let me know. Let him know.
Well, that's Fortrach Man. In case you didn't know, if this is your first time tuning into Raw Impressions with, by the way, Lou Barlow and Adele Barlow. Not just Adele Barlow. Fortrach Man being quite the little sneaky, sneaky, Fortrach there.
That was a long introduction. Long and sort of meandering introduction. I actually spaced out. I don't, I didn't know what half of it.
He's talking about the show tape. There was this, this, Sabado show tape that I made in the early 90s. And I played it during some of our shows when we were at Gaffney. Is that why you call it show tape?
Yeah. It was released, it was released on a record on a, it was a B side to Soul and Fire. I think it's like 14 minutes long or something. Um, but yeah, that's what I found the original of that tape.
But he wanted to know before we get to show tape. Yeah, before we get to that, it's going to dominate this episode. It's going to dominate it. So yes, I think it's, you know, very legit that he was asking you.
You should try to get a word in edgelized before he interrupts again. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
He slash me. What? That's you for track man. No, but it's the show.
Oh, you're going to drop to me too. The show tape. I'm going to start flapping about it. Ah, yes.
And then you won't stop. So no, okay. Uh, checking in with me. Well, you're back from Australia, New Zealand.
And so that's quite nice to have you padding around the house again and you're wearing your, uh, Chewbacca jacket, which is this jacket. I had no idea the legs it would have. This is really. Surprised me.
I got this at Target a million years ago. When we first moved to Massachusetts, I think it was like our first or second Halloween here. I was some kind of Star Wars revival going on. So they have there always is a really good.
Yeah, but there was a, they are like chewy then. Right. So it looks like it looked like I have a Chewbacca hoodie, basically. You have a, I basically bought you a hoodie.
That's Chewbacca hoodie. That was your whole costume. And I think I was Princess Leia, like I had the bonds and I was pregnant with Izzy. So I was like pregnant Princess Leia.
I just want to sneak something on something real quick. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan or anything. Oh, I bet you were dying to sneak that in. I was.
I like to just tell everybody. Hey, Star Wars, take it or leave it. I'm shrugging. Look at me.
You just loved it. That's your little Beatles button you like to push. I like the original. I was right in the Target audience in 1976 or whatever.
77. I was the Target audience for Star Wars and it worked. The first, the first Star Wars movie. I was like, Hey, that was fun.
I like it. I was into it. It was fun. I think the second one though is one I really like because isn't that the one with Boba.
Let's not talk about Star Wars. That's mean. What if I want to talk to you said I'm checking with you? What if I just want to sit and talk about Star Wars during my check in?
Oh, OK. Yeah, that's true. I'm sorry because it gives me an opportunity then to talk about how hot Harrison Ford is in those movies. So there you go.
That's what I'd like to say is that he was really fucking hot and and even when he was frozen in the wall, he was still hot. So I didn't know those possible, but it is. I like I like what was his character Han Solo. That's also hot.
Yeah. Yeah, hot solo. So that's all I'm going to say about it. Oh, and I think the third one, last thing I'm going to say of the original or whatever is like the cute little bears that run around.
That was later. You know what? What are they called? Let me let me just do a little attraction here.
OK, Star Wars is fine. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I don't have to prove.
I have no point to prove by saying that I'm just not obsessed with it. Yeah, people really love the Star Wars series. I think it seems like and having this jacket is not the result of an obsession of any kind. It's just a it looks cool and it's really comfortable and it just fits.
It's a really good casual. I feel a little you know, and I also feel a little more. It's when I'm feeling a little more animally. I wear this thing.
I've been known to wear it without a t-shirt on underneath it. I've seen you. I've seen you naked actually adjust wearing that. That too far.
Did I tell to people to many things? No, not at all. That's you know, that's me. That's you.
I know I talk about this is Ron Prettians just saying I am happy to share the information that I was naked during the recording of during some of my earliest recordings. I spent I made my earliest for track recordings were often done when I was alone in the house and I was naked in the buff. What about show tape? Were you naked while making show tape?
Possibly parts of it, maybe. So can I get to show or Wells or more that I should say about myself? Why were I talking about myself? I was talking about your jacket.
Yeah, I guess I still haven't said much about moi. I'm I'm okay. I'm a little fatigued. The rain is pouring.
It's gray out. I'm a little sad about things. The world is scary to me. I'm sad, but getting through getting through getting through getting through each day.
You just got to get up. Keep moving show up for the people in your day to day life. I'm making meals this week. That feels nice.
I'm enjoying the meals. Yeah. So I'm I'm OK. I'm OK.
Yeah. Yeah, and I can hear the rain in the background and I kind of just feel like never just feel like curling up in a ball and crying with the rain. No. OK.
I do generally when it rains, I want to go immediately into my bed. I appreciate that with pajamas on something really soft and just because I because I have a good cry. Yeah, that's that's OK. Yeah, just because I personally have never done that.
Have you ever thought about doing that? No. Interesting. I wonder if you've ever thought now is a good time for me to cry.
Some times when I feel overwhelmed. Yeah. You know, if I'm feeling overwhelmed by information, yes, I've been feeling very overwhelmed with information. Really?
This is this this isn't this is something's happening. I hear noises. OK. Is this.
Oh, Eric. Cebidou, Eric and Blue. Funny guys, good music. Cebidou, Eric and Blue.
I've never heard your show tape. Was this the original one? It was Eric and I were playing a show. We played two shows as a duo, one in New York City at wetlands and the other one at the Middle East upstairs and I played this tape.
Well, he and I did this these kind of chaotic duo sort of semi acoustic shows. When was this? Ninety one ninety. Hmm.
Jason was temporarily temporarily relieved of his position as the drummer of the band. So Eric and I could do this on do those shows as I do and then keep all the money ourselves in that share with Jason. That was the reason I was given. I was like, where's Jason?
He's all Jason's not in the band. We're doing these shows as a duo. Surprise. Yeah.
Interesting. And did you feel that you just had to go along with that decision? Yeah, I did. But I made the show tape.
This is what Eric I did. Eric said we're doing these shows as a duo. So I made a show tape. I yeah, I find that so interesting that you a keep calling it a show tape, which I guess is just a very literal thing.
You're like, we're doing a show and I'm going to press a button on a cassette player. And play the tape. So this is my show tape. I mean, I I'm not saying like I don't want to say anything disparaging.
No, bring it on. But I do want to say that's kind of funny. That's sort of it's like a little kid. It's like, look at me.
I made a little tape and I'm calling it my show tape and I'm going to play it during my show. Well, I think I based the whole show. Younger Lou. Check this.
I based the whole show tape on I I prank called Eric again. I started playing no possibly juvenile behavior. No, listen. Yeah, I know, but it's really funny.
Wait, I know, but it's really funny. I tormented him on the phone. I had no idea that it was me. And I was like, because he didn't have color ID, right?
Or something. You just were I was playing his own songs back to him over the phone and then and then this kind of the sort of ominous feedback poor guy. My gosh. So that's Eric.
I didn't realize that I had done this. I'm alone and you just were continually calling him. He would answer the phone and say like, hello, did you give him like a little bit of break between calls? So he didn't keep answering.
I don't remember, but he was really bummed and he thought I was other people. He's like, John is this John? And I was just I thought it was really funny to torment him that way and then somehow I created the whole show tape based on that prank phone call and you know, like looking back. I forgot about this because when I found the tape, I was like, cool, so the original tape and I'm listening to it and I'm slowly putting it together.
I'm like, oh my God, I forgot. Pranked him. In the tradition of Ben Morrison and the Rolling Stones, Sibidoh, Lou and Eric. And then I cut these announcements into it.
Two guys that argue sometimes, Sibidoh, Eric and Lou. We did. Lou and Eric. We had kind of an antagonistic relationship.
Eric! With a K, gas me, proud possessor of many live meat puppet tapes. Love the meat puppets. Sibidoh, Eric.
Sibidoh, Eric and Lou. Your voice. It's so wild to me hearing your voice because it's you, but it's not you. It's your younger voice.
Your voice has changed. Yeah. That sounded like an asshole. It's just also so high.
Your voice is so much lower now and granularly. Okay. Oh, this is also on the tape. This is this is an excerpt from an interview.
An excerpt from an interview that Eric did because Eric had a fan scene. What was the name of it? Withdrawal. And he was interviewing local bands.
And he interviewed this band of kids that went to Northfield Mount Herman, which is this big private school around here. It's a boarding school. Mm-hmm. Why did you guys change your name?
Well, because we were seeing one to see rock against Reagan. Oh! It goes, I'm going to be in a political band. He listened to the NBC speech that Dave made over and over again.
And he goes, this is cool. This is cool. Fuck that. Fuck that.
He agreed with me that we should turn more on political. Brain injured units out stupid now. And then we changed all our lyrics. Politics blown.
Listen to me. Stop. He said if we changed all our lyrics, we couldn't be the brain injured unit anymore. He said, well, let's call ourselves Bauded Immunity.
And we all agreed. I was out of the band by that time. You don't need a couch. Bauded Immunity is dumb.
Brain injured unit sounds a lot cooler. The whole is an uproar. Did I just hear bowels of uproar? Okay.
I really wanted to set this up better. Okay. No, no. You can't explain it now.
After. Okay. Let me explain that for you. That was, there was like just before that started.
It was a, it was a, so Eric had this band's in called Withdrawal. And he interviewed local bands and he interviewed B.I. which were a band from Northfield Mount Herman. Okay.
Yep. And one of the guys in the band is his name was Todd and he wrote Deep Wound, you know, Jana's band, the very first fan letter we got and he called himself Todd Cotex. And he said he had a band called B.I.U. And they had stickers that one of the members of the band, his mother, I assume, or someone in his family worked for the brain injured unit in a hospital.
So he got a hold of the whole role of stickers. So they had B.I.U. Stickers and they were called brain injured unit. They made stickers for brain injured unit.
Yeah. Like a hospital? Yeah. Like it was like a little orange sticker.
Oh, like maybe to label something in a hospital. Yeah. Stick it on a card. Yeah.
Like this card goes in the brain injured unit. Yeah. So they had, you know, they scored. They had, they had these, I think all themselves brain injured unit.
And then, but they had this dilemma because there was a shift in like a 1983 into 1984. There was a shift in the scene, like where it became very political. And there was a band called MDC that came through town. They came to, they came through, I think they might have come through twice, but they had this big show at UMass.
Multi-death Corporation is the name of the band or depending on the way, they had all these different incarnations of the name was like millions of dead cops, multi-death corporation, blah, blah, blah. So anyway, when they came through town, it so affected B.I.U. brain injured unit that they changed the name of the band to bonded in unity, which was more consistent with like SSD control with the sort of brotherhood aspect. Yep.
As opposed to like here's a hardcore band with a goofy name. Goofy. Yeah. They sort of, they sort of, they were like, oops, let's get more serious.
Let's get more serious. Yeah. Okay. The interview is the band arguing about the name change.
The interview with the band that Eric taped is in the show tape, but I decided to go back and recreate the interview. So you can really hear what they were talking about. Because that's you. Right.
I wanted to recreate the interview so we could really sort of get in to what they were talking about. And you could understand that this was a sort of an important and also hilarious conversation that Eric captured. He did interviews with other hardcore bands like he did with this little kid hardcore band called No Preservatives. And he's tamped and he also did another one which is responsible for this, for this, everyone in the world should have their own band, which is like this.
It's an early, it's a part of the early, you know, fans from back in the day. People who enjoy the very early seven, they will know what I'm talking about. And they also might be just tickled to death by this new, my new found, my new discovery, the very first show tape. So this is the OG OG OG.
Oh, OG. Show tape. And did you forget about this thing or is this so is it is this what you actually played then during the show with Eric? Okay.
Yes. And you can get the whole full length. The show tape is on our sub stack. Okay.
So for our paid subscribers, they can really go deep into the show tape and like how long is that? It's about 15 minutes. How about 15 minutes of your time? You can really go like, I'm doing this.
This is important to me. But it's a bit obscure. So that's where it's going to live. But you can.
And wait, did you just recently find this tape? Well, the weird thing is I thought of it while I was in Australia. I'm like, okay. Oh, yeah, I did an original.
I'm like, I wonder if I could find that tape. I think I already found it because I came home. I was like sitting on top of my fortress. So you must have already been kind of like pre thinking of this.
Like, huh, I want to do something with this original show tape. Well, just as drone for no show on it. I don't know what that means. Drone.
It means because there's a drone work with the whole thing. Okay. But I was like, drone for no show. And I didn't equate that with being the show tape.
But then when I played it, I'm like, there's the show tape. And I was just thinking about that. And there it is. And now I can now I can transfer it.
I can digitize it and I can share it with the world. I wonder if there's any YouTube video of you and Eric playing one of those two shows with you. There is. There is at the Middle East upstairs.
Have you seen this video? Yes. Okay. It's excruciating for me to watch because I'm being such an asshole.
And then also it was the day. It was also the day after Jim Henson died that we did the show. And on stage, I said, Grover died today, but it wasn't. He wasn't Grover.
I don't think he wasn't Grover. I don't know. Anyway, that's the other guy, Frank Oz, which which one was Grover? Was he the one who lived in the trash can?
No, Oscar. Oh, Oscar Grover. I'm pretty sure that was front. There's the two main puppeteer.
Which one's Grover then? It sounds so cute. I think it's Frank Oz who also does. Oh, I know I'm thinking of Grover because is he has that really cute book?
What is it? The monster at the end of the book. My favorite book when I was his age was that book and it's with Grover in it. And he's so cute.
Yeah. So anyway, like we played a show. One of these shows we played was the day after Jim Henson died. I said something about something.
Of course, something like me incorrect, even back then, spreading disinformation. Well, and sort of doing it in this kind of like cocky way, you know, just acting like I knew what I was talking about, but I didn't. Yeah, but it. Yeah.
Yeah. So going back into this tape and realizing that I based it all on this like tormenting Eric on the phone. Well, you know why I do that? Why you did that?
Oh, yeah. It's because of Mark. It's because of your childhood with Mark doing these prank calls lose best childhood, best friend who passed away and they had they started their they started this with phone calls between like a talk. I mean, I mean, realizing that and then realizing that Eric eventually left the band because he couldn't really like he got a hard time with me and I'm like, no wonder like I listened to that.
I'm like, Oh my God, that's like a terrible thing to do to him. That's a terrible thing to do to Eric. Like I wasn't really he was much more sensitive than I had anticipated and I had and to me that was just. Funny, but to him, he's like, who the fuck is calling me?
Yeah. Why is this happening? And then I think I also I was doing it sort of in retribution for him deciding that Jason was out of the band. Uh huh.
You know what I mean? So I was like it was like so it's how complicated. I know it's dark. It feels dark.
I'm like, wow. And again, it's like where I find a I go back and I'm sort of innocently listening to the stuff and go here's something goofy that I did, but then realizing this dark undercurrent to it. And and yeah. And probably the truth behind it.
Like you said, you know, yeah, and when I made it felt like he kind of deserved it. And then the next the next iteration of that tape that I made that I played at more shows, Eric really didn't like me playing the tape and I would always be like, he doesn't like it. And I thought I kind of didn't but now looking back and like, no wonder he didn't like it. It was almost totally based.
It was like taunting him on taunting him. Right. Even stuff with it. And you didn't see that at the time at all.
You just were like, well, he's humorless or I mean, like what? I don't know. I think I think that it really. Well, you've come you've come a ways the band politic was really complicated and like a very antagonistic.
Yeah. And the band was antagonistic. I feel like that was so of that time too. You know, oh yeah, we're gen X.
There's so much sarcasm and yeah, the antagonistic behavior and poking people. You know, it's going to hurt them. Well, I mean, Eric was also antagonistic. Well, right.
Yeah, so it was everyone. It was like, yeah, it's been a thing for us to unlearn. Right. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it became useless. It became it became a barrier after not that long. Yeah. And so I would but I don't know.
It's interesting to go back and see it in a more complicated light and also to understand Eric better and also to, yeah, maybe like have some ownership over your own kind of yeah, like the yeah, because sometimes I will play it out. I will play out the memory and put myself on the innocent side somehow. You know, I'll play out the memory and make myself sort of blameless or, you know, or hapless like. Just if I had looking back and going, oh, I just I didn't expect that.
But well, I think for Trek Man, there was muttering that it was the end of the show. It's the end of the show. Okay. Well, this is the end of the episode guys that'll be on the sub stack and thanks for tuning in to Raw Impressions.
But assuming that you've just, you know, dominated the conversation with this fascinating story of yours, I want to just make sure that before I disappear into my world of silence and thank you all for listening to this card past Raw Impressions.