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EPISODE · Aug 20, 2025 · 19 MIN

Goat Packing and Public Lands: How NAPgA Keeps the Trails Open

from For the Love of Goats · host Deborah Niemann

Got a question? 🤔 Head over to --  https://thriftyhomesteader.com/goat-packing-and-public-lands/ -- and drop it in the comments—so we can reply! DescriptionIn this episode, Deborah Niemann is joined by Chris Gifford, president of the North American Packgoat Association (NAPgA), to talk about the growing challenges that pack goat owners face when it comes to accessing public lands.Chris explains what goat packing is, how it works, and why goats make excellent trail companions. He also shares the history of NAPgA and its advocacy efforts to keep public lands open to pack goat users in the face of increasing restrictions—most of which stem from unproven concerns about disease transmission between goats and wild bighorn sheep.If you’ve ever wanted to take your goats hiking or are curious about the barriers pack goat users face, this episode offers both inspiration and insight into an issue that affects animal lovers, hikers, and land use advocates alike.What You’ll Learn:What goat packing is and how it works on the trailHow Chris got involved in goat packing and NAPgAWhy some public lands are closed to pack goats—and what the science does not sayHow to find out if a specific public land is open to pack goat useWhat NAPgA is doing to protect access to public landsThe differences between pack goats and domestic sheep, and why that mattersWhere goat packing as a sport is headed in the futureResources Mentioned:North American Packgoat Association (NAPgA)NAPgA Facebook PageMycoplasma In Goats - podcast episodeThanks for tuning in!If you’d like to support the content you love and help us keep bringing you new goat resources, you can do that through our Tip Jar.No one ever said raising goats was easy, but it doesn't have to cost a fortune or drive you crazy! You just need the right information.🔹 Check out Goats 365 membership🔹 Or explore The Goat Academy🔹Looking for Deborah's books?  They can be purchased wherever books are sold, or you can get an autographed copy on our online store.Happy goat-keeping! 🐐 

Got a question? 🤔 Head over to -- https://thriftyhomesteader.com/goat-packing-and-public-lands/ -- and drop it in the comments—so we can reply! Description In this episode, Deborah Niemann is joined by Chris Gifford, president of the North American Packgoat Association (NAPgA), to talk about the growing challenges that pack goat owners face when it comes to accessing public lands. Chris explains what goat packing is, how it works, and why goats make excellent trail companion...

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Got a question? 🤔 Head over to --  https://thriftyhomesteader.com/goat-packing-and-public-lands/ -- and drop it in the comments—so we can reply! DescriptionIn this episode, Deborah Niemann is joined by Chris Gifford, president of the North American...

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