EPISODE · Feb 6, 2026 · 28 MIN
He Practiced for 26 Years Before This Shift Happened
from The Griswold Method: Matt brings together experts in business, health, and happiness
What if healing isn’t something you do to others but something you must first do within yourself. In this episode of The Griswold Method, Dr. Matt Griswold sits down with Dr. Joe Lai avulse based orthodontist, holistic healthcare practitioner, and longtime collaborator for a deeply reflective conversation about alignment, awakening, and the inner work required to truly help others heal.After 26 years in traditional healthcare, Dr. Joe Lai shares the moment everything changed: a season of forced silence, solitude, and stillness that shifted him from operating on autopilot to living in conscious awareness. What followed was not just better care for patients but a completely different way of showing up as a man, father, husband, and healer.Together, they explore:The difference between religious belief and spiritual awakeningWhy most healers burn out before they awakenAlignment as the foundation of real health (physical, emotional, spiritual)How silence and stillness rewire the nervous systemHeart–mind coherence and energy exchange in healthcareThe danger of living in roles instead of wholenessWhy presence is the real medicineHow to serve others without losing yourselfThe power of living in the present momentThis isn’t an episode about techniques. It’s about becoming the kind of person whose presence heals.Because you can’t guide others to alignment if you’ve never found it yourself.
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He Practiced for 26 Years Before This Shift Happened
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