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Having come with us next. A man who went to heaven before his time. I'm not supposed to be here. What you guys may have expect.
And came back to life in the body of another man. It's me. Anyone who you have, who shares your still, who's your friend, who's your best? I see.
But out of your funds, that's what everyone else will see. Warren Beatty, Dewey, Kristi, Heaven. Can wait. We'll be getting PG.
Alright, Heaven can wait. Our first Warren Beatty movie. You said this was one of your favorite movies. Absolutely.
It was all the time when I was a kid. And you know, looking back at it and doing some research on the movie, didn't have any idea that was taken as seriously as it was. Like a real critical and commercial hit. Yeah.
But it was kind of just like a delightful whimsical metaphysical heaven movie. Which they had a lot of back then. There was this one. There was the Heavenly Kid.
There was O God and O God book too. A lot of movies that dealt with death and angels and God and stuff. They don't really do that much of those. All culminating in highway to heaven and Michael Landon.
Highway to heaven was my landing. Which is a whole cultural phenomenon. But this is one of my favorite movies on the kid. Really, really amazing screwball comedy.
Watching it again this time. It's just so great to see how the bones of the Philadelphia story and her girl Friday and all the great comedies in the 30s and 40s and form this and with all the people involved. It's sort of amazing to look at Warren Beatty and think about how famous he was and how he put all of his cred and energy into making this. Which is essentially like this really light, sweet comedy.
I like his theory on, he's another one of those guys who put a lot of thought into stardom. Yeah. And sometimes you just have to let the camera show you up and just be handsome. Yeah.
Talking a little voice and just stare at a woman and just keep staring and then stare back. And then you stare some more and you just seem like a movie star. Very few people can do this. I think that was a big part of it.
The minimalist approach. Once upon a time out of Hollywood, he's basically doing that with Cliff. But very few people. I mean, who can do it now?
It was under 40. I think also the way the movies are made and written and produced like demands a lot more. There's a lot of exposition in this movie but actors are required to do so many different things now. It's crazy.
It's like, I guess you could say like he's a convincing LA Rams quarterback in this movie. But what he really is. He really is. He's a convincing LA rich guy.
And he's a convincing LA playboy. He's a convincing like, he just has this like star power at the center of this movie. And the movie is actually just like a temple built to that. He's also a convincing every man playing.
He's got different dudes. Right. Which you have to be able to charisma yourself in and out of that as well. There's just not a lot of guys out there or stars out there.
We look at movies, I think a different way now that you could give them a movie and go, if you're goodness, the movie works. And if you're bad, it doesn't. Yeah. The Bert Reynolds.
And Bert Reynolds has probably somebody else who could have tried to play this role. I don't know if he pulls off the rich part of it the same way, the Leo Pendleton. He pulls off all the football stuff. But I think what was so interesting about Warren Beatty is that he could be Leo Pendleton and it's believable that he's also Tom Jaren.
Or Joe Pendleton. Joe Pendleton and Leo Farnsward. Yeah. And then we just step into the Super Bowl quarterback and I believe all three things.
I also would have believed him as a German race car driver. I could have spent five more minutes with that. Maybe you could have driven the car. You didn't like the guy because he didn't speak.
He didn't speak. He didn't like German so much. Oh, well, still hang out over it. But Bert Reynolds is interesting because you obviously the football stuff would be amazing.
Right? He don't want to be too good. I want to be too good at the football stuff like he was in a long jar. But Warren Beatty deep pretties himself in this movie.
Like he seems he's like legitimately one of the hunniest, dreamiest, best looking guys ever. But he plays it so goofily. Yeah. And so much heart that you believe that he is the dude that is on the outside of everything that is glitzy and glamoury and full of money.
I read the book again, which I really liked when it came out as a piece of Biscan's biography film in 2010, which is very pre-two. There's a lot of sex stuff in there that I now think would be written differently. Pre-two. Pre-two.
I think that was a phrase. I just made it up. Did you really? Just on the cuff just now?
Yeah. That's a pre-tales. There was a basketball pyramid. I don't know.
I got to be honest with you. Look, I'm anti-dickrodin and I never would do it. I can I just make that up. I can just make that up.
And if I read this in Vanity Fair somewhere or something like that, I'm a pre-tales. Pre-tales is like a vulture piece. But if you just made it up, I got to give it up. That's pretty good.
I can be a casual. I came out with this pre-two thing about this. I got to add it. Well, all these stories in there is like, yeah, six times a day and then he'd get tired of somebody and just stuff like he wouldn't write about it as casual.
The story of things about Midwor and Beatty is so interesting. He gets sex with a lot of women and then he wouldn't call them back or he'd get bored of somebody. But apparently by all accounts, just got it done. Just a swordsman.
That's a chance it was basically about. There's a part in the book about he was such a reputation as a swordsman that he felt like a pressure for it because he felt like when he was with a woman they were expecting a dirty or dirty experience. I'm just a normal guy. But he would take these different vitamins to try to have more energy and try to keep up the legend.
I mean, he was like Donna. Remember he showed up with the fairy doctor. When I'm first getting an idea of who Warren Beatty is, he's dating Madonna. She's the biggest thing in the world.
It's heaven can wait. And it's a little while after that, it's a big trace. And then bugs it. And then bugs he becomes such a huge deal and it doesn't land with a thud but it doesn't land like he wanted it to.
But I had a lot of Oscar nominations. You always talk about it that year. It was like a big bugsy. Yeah.
It was big from your magazine movie. Yeah. Yeah. But then imagine being me and you were introduced to Carrie Fisher and Warren Beatty in Star Wars and in Dick Tracy and heaven can wait.
And then you see shampoo. Shampoo blew my mind. Oh yeah. Shampoo is an incredible movie.
Yeah. But just the adultness of it. Yeah. How she was in the movie.
How he was in the movie. I was like, oh, you know, that's when people who have seen movies go, no, this guy was like he was the guy of the town. Like he was the Richard Gere of his era. I always think about him in relationship to Redford around this time period because they're two very obviously famous movie stars who took real control over their careers, whether it was producers or director producers or what have you.
And Redford, I think for the most part, kind of set the tone for the kind of movie star, especially the great actors that we have now, like at the Caprio say, for instance, which seems like every time Leonardo DiCaprio works, he wants to push the ball forward. It's an important movie. Sometimes it's about a most of the time it's about an important issue, right? But then there's like this era where Warren Beatty would make these big movies and they were important, but they were also like pretty good times at the movies.
Like he was still remembering the entertainment value of like just hanging out with a group of people in Los Angeles for two hours. And I think that that's something that's sort of been lost. But Redford was also like a really big, I feel like Redford made issue movies. I feel like he made movies because he was like, this is an important film that everybody needs to see.
He's kind of like the comparison I'm making a little bit. And then Newman was always trying to prove that he was more than what people thought he was. Warren Beatty was just like, I don't want to make a lot of money with this movie or I want this to hit for me in a real way. Well, this kind of did both.
I guess to your point, I wonder if our appetites have changed to the point to where those issue movies that guys make now that like we can't have we can't have fun and be serious. Yeah, it doesn't seem like the screwball comedy is the type of movie that's going to get like taken seriously by the critics or is going to get you lauded in a way. You have to go look, it's me, it's Denis, we're in the desert or you have to decide, hey, you guys come have some fun. I'm going to do a movie with the Fairly Brothers or Adam McKean.
Yeah. So I don't know whether that's a good or bad thing. The times have changed. Like if George Clooney made this movie 10 years ago, even even 10 years ago, you could see it being like a nice Amazon movie that you watch like randomly on a Friday night and like I was cool.
This is a $100 million movie that got mad Oscar. Yeah. Like it was like the centerpiece of the filmmaking culture. The other thing he did, he was always the star of the movie.
He never fucked around. He's never like, I'll take this. I'll take the Matt Damon part in Ocean's 11. Like he never would have done that.
He would have been cluing. He was always like, I'm going to be the guy in the movie. If there's a best looking woman in the movie, that's going to belong to me in the movie. And I'm going to be the winner in the end.
He also died in a lot of movies too, which he wasn't afraid to like Bonnie and Clyde. I mean, Bonnie and Clyde, it all takes off. That's 1967. Yeah.
And he rigs it so that he makes it. He ends up making a shitload of money from it. He does an almond movie, he does parallax view, does shampoo, does heaven can wait, does red. So he only makes, I mean, really like six real big movies in like a 14 year span.
Yeah, he's very particular. He was very deliberate. Can we talk about what he turned down? Sure.
The Sundance Kid. Yeah. Michael Corleone, which would have been ridiculous. Later he turned down Gordon Gekko and Jack Warner.
Michael Rolisha took. He would have been an amazing, the one the one railroad grad he said he had was not doing Jack Warner. He really was doing that one. And there's apparently, I don't know how apocryphal this is that he was pushing to play Dirk Diggler.
Well, he was a for boogie nights. Yeah. And PTA was like, no, he's like a 17 year old kid. He can't.
He was also, he got pretty far down the road with playing Bill and Kill Bill. Right. He had that, he had the same breakouts be Superman was the original call for that splash. Big Dave in decent proposal, which would have been great.
And then misery, which Goldman wrote about in his book and B and Warren Beatty just didn't want to be in the bed for that long. He felt like he was like neutered in bed. He couldn't do it. You know what?
When you look at that, when you look at that list of movies that he turned down, I think you look at some of the movies that he did, it's interesting why he would make some of the decisions. Like, well, maybe it's just because, okay, so he does like Dick Tracy, which is like this big beautiful disaster, basically, right? Well, the movie, that means a lot to me, but like the movie is kind of like all over the place or whatever. I love the interesting, by the way.
But like to look at the script for misery and then kind of not want to do it, I think he did want to do it. He just couldn't 100% get there because he kept circling back and like, and then he's I don't know in the bed and he couldn't get past the crippling scene. Yeah, we should, that was a big thing for him. He either wanted to be the hero or he wanted to have like a violent death, but to be play a guy who got crippled, just limping around, couldn't like get his head around it.
He also made three movies with Julie Christie. He made Mckay and Mrs. Miller, which was the album movie, Shampoo. They broke up and then they did Heaven can Wait.
And it was, they both dated different people after but still had some sort of connection. Yeah, it seems like he's some really good stories about them doing 80 takes of the same scene and them having a little cat mouse came on the set. He's pro-fincer and like apparently made Jack Nicholson cry on Reds where Jack Nicholson is like, what the fuck do you want for me? Right.
You know, like Hackman. Just do it against here. Yeah, do it against here. Do one more time.
And the D not even getting notes. I just have to do Wayne Jenkins. Over and over and over. That can do it right.
Do you think Beatty is faded a little bit in terms of like the star power or the level of attraction that these 70s films have? Like I think that these are some of the great movies of the last 50, 60 years. Bonnie and Clyde became Mrs. Miller, Parallax especially, but shampoo and Heaven and Reds.
But I feel like he's less kind of highly regarded as the Redford and maybe even Hackman and Pacino and De Niro the guys who come right immediately after him. I agree. I think it's because the movies didn't, I mean this is the first rewatchable as we've ever done for a minute. Yeah.
We've done 11 13 Pacino movies. We've done multiple David Caruso movies. We've done 10 De Niro movies. I think some of them feel very 70s-ish or 60s-ish.
They could actually be fun to do Bonnie and Clyde, but it's just, you know, that's so a movie that really feels like it came out in the 1960s. But you know, like there are certain actors and actresses and even directors that are of their times. And they have a more sensitive cultural exploration than others do. So for whatever reason, also there was never an unforgiving for him.
There was never a movie that made everybody go, oh my God, this guy was big in the 60s, huge in the 70s and look what he can still do. Yeah, he's three years old at the Pacino, but doesn't have like a movie like Heat or Son of a Woman from the 90s. That's like, oh, that's his sixth, when he was in his late 50s. The champion was a crazy movie.
I love the champion. The champion was incredible. It's a crazy movie though. It would be interesting if you just threw this on first.
I should make my daughter watch it and see what her take is. I told her daughter. I thought they could get away remaking. They're always, always wanted.
They're possible. Always wanted, I thought if you take this type of story and then like sort of tune it up, dust it off a little bit and set it a contemporary world. Like it still would be a lot of fun. A guy thrown around in LA on January 6th.
I was a barber in LA. Get laid on January 6th. My wife watched this movie with me on Sunday night. And at one point, it was just like long shot on Warren Beatty.
My wife was like, God, he was so handsome. I think that's like 90% of it. Yeah. And he also had a really good sense of who to play and what and what to not do.
And he was like a quarterback that knew exactly what what he was could do to move the ball down the field. And he's not a scrambler and you don't want him to be like, he just, I'm going to do this. This is my move. In quintessential kind of screwball rom-com like fashion, you could watch this film.
There's a lot of plot in this. Yeah. And I think like his company and Charles Groenin and Diane Cannon's relationship in the background in England. The town in England.
Yeah. The town in England. But you kind of like with the people who are in it, they're so good that you're just sort of like, yeah, yeah. I get basically this guy's dead.
He's come back. He's fallen in love. But don't you feel like it got better? The movie gets better as it goes along.
And then the last 40 minutes are just like lights out. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of things like playing football with the servants. It's like this is the best way of ever.
They're small things in a movie that just make you, that make this character one of the most lovable characters on the field. Yeah. He starts cooking and he starts jumping down and like calm down Mr. Falls.
Yeah. But he's got his entire world back. This is all he wants to do. Yeah.
This entire movie is happening because the backup quarterback has been promised the starting role. Yes. And he cannot get over that and he's willing to come back from the dead or do whatever he has to do. And on the way, bonds love, it really is absurd premise that shouldn't work.
But for the. Yeah, it's about a backup quarterback from the Rams. But it's also about whether or not like you have a true love and the soul exists. Yeah.
Whether it's just your spirit and whatever is in your eyes. Also just about like what a good dude can undo. They're telling him that the porpoises are being threatened by being sued by getting imported. Me too.
By God, in porpoises. All of a sudden, which I will talk about this later, I love scenes with every man in board rooms in big meetings. Yeah. Like Dave.
I was gonna say Dave. Wait, so you're telling me 200 million and we're gonna make people feel better about their cars? Yeah. And that's gonna cost 50 million.
He goes, I don't want to tell some kids sleep in their car. Right. So that's somebody else was worried about the car. Do you want to tell them that?
No, Mr. No. Dave. And so you know, you just love the guy so much you want him to win a Super Bowl by the movie.
Well, Julie Christie, who had 1965 in all time Apex Mountain, where she won Best Actress for Darling, but also was in Dr. Shabagra, which was one of the 10 biggest movies of the 20th century. And then had a really good career and really picked her spots and was in, was not one of those, I'm gonna do my version of Sleeping with the Enemy. She's like just making good movies and ends up and don't look now, which I think is right around when she broke up with Beatty because there was this whole thing about, she might have had sex with Donald and her maybe she did end as a whole and I think it drove Warren Beatty crazy.
Doug Shampoo is in Nashville. And then this was kind of our last like really big movie. Like she turned down some big parts and Reds and she was supposed to play your, your girl Charlene Ramplings part in the verdict. Oh yeah.
Yeah. She turned that down. Turn that down. Um, she's kind of took a step back.
But I don't know, Van, where's she in the Hall of Fame for you? Oh, she's not up there. Okay. She's, you know, she's, she's maybe like out of that.
Foreign Hall fan? Maybe foreign Hall. Okay. Like Monica Belushi type of Monica Belushi wingo the Hall of Fame.
Yeah Monica. Judy Dench. I'm Helen. Helen Mearon.
Like a scholar. Um, I think I'm about a scholar. What's the movie? A lady in Rayman?
Yeah. It's Helen Mearon, but she plays. What's her, what's her name? Organa.
Yeah. Rayman lady. Warren Beatty. Yeah.
Really quick. For a guy who was at Swab is him. He got cut a lot. What do you mean?
Oh, in movies? No, she went with Donald Southern, which I saw. And then he very famously got cut when Axel Rose, he really said he got cut if he's taken out. Oh, Stephanie Seymour.
Stephanie Seymour. And that was a big deal. He was a big story about like the end of Beatty because Beatty was still, and then Axel Rose comes along. And just like takes his girl.
But part of the magic was he ever like, isn't this the kind of fairy dust that we're talking about that he must have where you're just like, how is this guy who's kind of a quirky, anxious, good looking, great head of hair, all that stuff. But like he doesn't look like he's an action movie star. We're like half full CR right here. Just saying.
There's something. I would say if he's with what? 20,000 women, 10,000 women, whatever. There's a couple of, probably a couple that go sideways.
Everyone's in a while. You're going to get straight out later. It's a numbers game. Yeah.
But what's interesting is like, Shay drives away. Growing up, I knew nothing. Even I knew like, Warren Beatty, a lot of ladies and that dude's like, it was just part of the package with him in a way that I don't, nobody would have that now. Nobody would, nobody would, that wouldn't be like a selling point as a positive for an actor.
Yeah. Look at all the ladies. I think there's something that kind of dates, not dates the movie in a good way for me, but does date it when I was watching, you know, at the beginning of the film when he's bicycling around Malibu and you're just like, this is like another planet. When could you bicycle around to paint a canyon like this?
But think about how many movies and TV shows were filmed in that area like that. And it just seems like the greatest place to be. There's no cars, no cars. Yeah.
Everyone could live on the beach. It's beautiful. His life looks like, if you are 14, his life looks like the greatest life ever. He go, he's by himself.
He's working out. He's like a, he's making a liver and weight shake. Yeah. It's like a version of Rassillo.
It's 78 Rassillo. It's 78 Rassillo. It's like he's working out. He's grinding tape.
Talking to football coaches. Biking around. For now, I just get the idea of Rassillo playing sopranos. As he's watching on the Thompson tape.
Coaches coming over. He's talking to him. He's mad about Tom Jarrett. He's just telling some random people.
He's mad about Tom Jarrett. Yeah. And then he gets the opportunity of his life and then things go bad inside an incident. Well, this was the second version of this movie.
The first was, or the second film adaptation. The play was called, having come wait. They made a movie called, here comes Mr. Jordan in 1941 and then they bought the rights and casting what if that's better than a casting what if this was supposed to be a Muhammad Ali movie.
With Muhammad Ali's boxing movie. Yeah, the original idea was it was a boxing. Yeah. And a boxer and then he comes back and he gets to fight in the big fight and Ali was like, no thanks.
And kicking around like the boxer idea had been kicking around to the late 60s and I think the original screenplay, Coppola, right? Yeah. Yeah. It had a lot of incarnation until it got to football.
Can I give you the most pre two facts about Julie Christie? Yeah. Ever? I just just popped up.
You also just wanted to say pre two. I like that. I like that. I don't think I made it up.
She was a contender for the role of Honey Rider in the first James Bond film, Dr. No. But producer, Craig's Guy. Albert are broccoli, broccoli, broccoli, broccoli, reportedly thought that her breasts were too small.
So she didn't get the role. That really has a pre two. That's a pre two motherfucker. Because he probably said that somebody in like an interview with like some magazine.
Yeah. One of the 60s. Yeah. Pre two.
Just wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. Um, some really good late 70s sports stuff in this movie.
It's including Teacon Jones, The Rams and Steelers in the heyday of like those 70s uniforms. The fucking Colosse. LA Colosse looks amazing. Kurt Goudy doing Super Bowl play by play.
Dick Embergs in here. He's a Brank Umbo, really Brank Umbo in the TV. A Brank Umbo. It feels like in that Rocky Balboa late 70s kind of universe.
Towards the end of the film, Julie Christie, she comes in after the Super Bowl and she's like trying to find the locker room. And when Beatty gives her directions, he's like, you gotta go all the way down the hallway, make three left, make her right, or you can go back around from where you came and it was like, because the Colosseum was like those old stadiums. Yeah. Like amazing.
Yeah. Yeah. Nine Oscar nominations for this movie. This movie was a big hit.
Yeah. Astounding. This is like a, I looked at this and this is a spot of ignorance of which I have many. I looked at this as one of my cute quirky childhood movies for almost the entire time.
Like it was like Angels in the outfield or something like that. It was like a, and astounding how well received it was critically. He was the second person after Orson Welles to be nominated for producing directing, writing, and acting for the same film. He wrote it with Buck Henry.
I feel like there are a few people from there. Jack Wardin got nominated. Elaine May has the co-writing credit, right? Yeah.
Oh, that's what it was. He directed with Buck Henry and then he co-wrote it with Elaine May. But I think Buck Henry was wrong. Yeah.
Yeah. Jack Wardin and Diane Cannon book got nominations. That's right. That's right, Diane Cannon.
We gotta talk Jack again, even though we always end up talking about Jack Wardin for five minutes. What do we do with Jack Wardin? Yes, this is the Jack Wardin Willhouse era. This is from mid-70s all the way through the verdict where it's just like, he's in the movie.
It's just a win. It's like Alex Grewerstle right now. It's like my thing's better because he's got Alex Grewerstle. I'm just better with Jack Wardin.
I know it hurts. He is present with his wearing the Rams winbreaker and the Rams hat. He's the trainer, right? Like that's his job.
He's the trainer, but somehow has like all the time to train a billionaire. He's not there for the Super Bowl. Yeah. There's nine related.
I have a bunch of Max though. Mr. Super Bowl, he's gotta get down the murder investigation. Let me know what happens.
What is it like a game we've ever had? He's participating in a sting operation to get die. He's going to get dead. He can't.
He's done that on a Monday. Also the rare trainer that has input on who's going to start on Sunday. We have that coming up. Yeah.
But no, this is how I know him. I mean, this movie was essentially like how I know him. This inverter. This inverter.
This inverter. This inverter. This inverter. And then you know, Carter Copy later on and all that stuff.
Good Oscars. Good Oscars. Obviously he had no chance that year because it was a loaded thing to actually win. But getting nominated was great from a release standpoint.
So it was a 9.5 million dollar budget plus whatever beta got. He had points. He made almost 100 million. Top five that year.
Grease. Superman. Animal House. Every which way but loose and heaven can wait.
Coming in six. Hooper. Number seven. Jaws two.
Revenge of the Pink Panther. The Deer Hunter in Halloween. Dankan is in Revenge of the Pink Panther. Isn't she?
She sure is. And then foul play was 11th. People just want to do it back then. People want to have fun at the movies.
Yeah. People just want to make movies back then. Like Peter Sellers and I like Sharks. As much as people hate.
There's some hate here at the Ringer on a final battle and every which way but loose. Who hates that movie? I can't remember who else talking to him. It might have been Sean.
It might have been Cartarian collection himself. I can see Sean going either way. I can't remember who somebody. I'm talking about how much I love those movies.
It's not one of my favorite Clint. I got a lot of fun. If we did that before. As a child.
I thought that movie was a grand slam. He's just going to drive around and get a fist by a punch. He's going to grab him and eat it. Oh my gosh.
We've done it. Roger Ebert for having to wait three stars. He said it's kind of a beat screwball comedy Hollywood used to do smoothly and well. Takes the curse off the plot's essential sweetness by getting some nice mean digs at greed corporate politics and don't read professional football in Jackson particular.
Interestingly enough Pauline Kale who was Warren Beatty's like number one fan for going back to Bonnie and Clyde and was really upset with this movie. She disliked it. She said it was image conscious celebrity movie making said Warren Beatty had turned into a baby kissing politician. And really went after him and it became this really kind of famous Hollywood story which I still don't know what Tarantino's movie critic script was about.
Yeah. So what happens is Warren Beatty instead of like feuding with her ends up trying to rebuild the relationship with her hires her. Flies her to Hollywood and she becomes like a creative executive. Yeah.
But then he buries her and she's basically buried doing nothing for a year but she sold out working Hollywood but then didn't actually get to be involved in movies. And he basically like that was his way to get back at her. I wonder though if like the I think that might have been a part of that assessment by her leads him to doing Reds though. He was a complete opposite and a very serious period.
I think partly he'd been working on that since like 1970. Yeah. He was obsessed with John Reed for some reason. But yeah I think after reading that I think I said I'll show you and he'd like dove hard into Reds.
But yeah her career was kind of never the same after the baby thing. She came back and you know her stuff in the 80s that we talked about. It was just a little tinge of cynicism. It's kind of like behind the times a little bit.
Anyway, all right we're gonna take a break and then we'll do the categories. All right. Most rewatchable scene. I love the first 15 minutes of this movie.
So I don't even want to pull it out but if I had to narrow it down I'd go with the birthday celebration when Max comes over and just everything that's going on there. Great job in five minutes. Oh these guys are fucking boys and babies and that like got all the brick a brack and that little house and he's just wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I have the first eight minutes which is like the title sequence basically leading up to the tunnel.
By the way, interesting thing with the title sequence. We don't come in with any zany music or anything like that. We come in silence. Heaven can wait across the screen.
Which like you thought like with the toner rest of the movie that they got you ready for it. But I want to get you into the world. It's like a serious guy's life who actually is a serious football player. They really pour on the football when he's Joe Pendleton.
They probably could have gone away with like two passes and some practice but it's like no let's show some things. I really think Beatty was like I get to show everybody. Well I can fucking see it. He's got his fucking arm angle.
Yeah he's like let me show everybody a few different things I can do. He played in high school and apparently got all these scholarship offers. You can watch this movie until because when I'm watching the film I'm thinking to myself okay who could play this role. Is this a role that like Mark Harmon who I guess he wouldn't act in the edge probably still usually around this time.
But like who else could have played this role honestly. But when you watch him drop back he's dropping back ball up elbow slotted. He knows that he knows how to throw the football and he wants enough passes for him to actually have some film and some tape. I have that written down like War and Beatty.
He has a couple like short touch passes. He wasn't just like just like throwing deep. He's actually showing Craig had you seen this movie before? No.
What did you think of War and Beatty just as a quarterback? I thought he looked great. Honestly I like him a little bit more than Bert. I thought he had a great physicality.
He's got that natural kind of like works with his hands build to him. He's kind of like a like a Baker Mayfield type. Yeah I have a different read on him. You want to say that?
Well yeah. Do you think Reynolds wasn't naturally a quarterback. He was a fullback. Yeah.
Yeah he was more like a Lamar Jackson. He was running QB that flying around making plays. Yeah this is more of a system Brock Purdy slash Baker Mayfield. Yeah.
70% completion rate. He could run though. I mean he's the final piece of final. He has this ramble.
But you know what else is in the movie very suddenly? The jargon. Like they want you to hear him get out that terminology. Oh he's doing all the altman stuff with sound where you can hear like the defenders being like pass pass pass.
You know like that stuff. Like you could tell that at least from him like he had played some ball before. He's given out the route combinations to the receivers and they want you to hear all of that and go what does that mean? And then you're like I'm going to do him the quarterback the Rams for an afternoon.
Right. Well they film so they film the Super Bowl scene. It's they have 14 minutes at halftime of preseason. So he goes out there in other plays there in front of like the full crowd who's all.
It's like a man. I'm going to do that today. Right. Well that's what they did on days of thunder where they're like throwing guys in there just to shoot it during an action.
I feel like they just did that because you know the guy plays reach for now. Yeah. There was a picture of him at a Cubs game and everybody's like oh my god Alan Richton or whatever. He is definitely reached because if that motherfuckers just walking around looking angry dressed like a Major at the whole time.
They're definitely huge. When he's in the stands of the other Cubs game I guess they might be still doing every now in the game. There's one part in that 14 minutes like one of the plays where he's just he's calling plays and he's looking both ways and it almost seems like he's changing the plane is like red red red red red red and like it just seems like a quarter. It's really impressive.
It's just doesn't look up there. It's a pre-season game against the Chargers was the crowd rate. Yeah. That's a great crowd for preseason Rams game.
Not a lot going on in the late 70s. Anyway, what a good one preseason. Right. The birthday celebration.
I think they do a good job with the car accident. Yeah. Showing the tunnel and the cars are fucking around. He's on his bike and then all of a sudden they do in this movie they do very dark stuff in a totally lightweight.
Yeah. So getting in a car accident while you're on your bicycle your wife trying to kill you you know, chemically poisoning in English town. The thing that falls on the bed was that like the play that goes he goes he goes he comes right into the room where they are and they're alerted to the fact that he's still out but the gag that they did right before they tried to kill him is the same gag that they go back to which makes his which means his character doesn't care which means you're okay to not get it. Just move on from it.
I like the montage of bodies to jump into the fact that I was on with a couple more they do a race car driver and they have the balance magician guy. I could have done three more. I love all the fake rules. Yeah, I could have just kept going.
Could have like a waiter in Hollywood like we did. Yeah, we did. We did a porn actor would have been fun but they're trying to show him people. Okay, so listen to this.
They're trying to show people that. Yeah. Is that in that haven? See, they get on the other side.
I thought you wanted to be a quarterback now to everybody. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. It's like videos that come for a while.
Imagine James Mason and Buck Henry visibly sitting in a porn set. I like when he becomes far and is worth in Diane Caine and freaks out. Which is really good. Yeah.
Joe and Betty and the limo fall in for each other a little bit. Yeah, we're there. Tommy's Joey Burders. Not a staring back and forth.
What a long long looks. I like the history and the baggage of them too. All right. These last four I love all these.
Joe brings back to the mansion. Tells them the secret. I think we'll be. I don't have a word to anybody.
I promise it'll be our little secret. I don't know what you told me about your older sister and Coca-Cola salesman. Hey, what about that scar you got on the bottom of your tongue? What happened?
What did you do with your uncle's money? I got it. Hey, what about the first time I fixed your neck in Pittsburgh? Oh, no.
And Jack won't believe it. He fixed his neck. I'm calling him Jack until he does that. I think that happened in Pittsburgh.
I always like when those and we there's been a few movies like this where I have to convince the other I'm sorry, but I don't look like me. And then I'm like, no, no, remember that time we did heat my pool house in 2019. Yeah. I was talking to a motherfucker.
I was thinking about that. That would be the thing that you would say to somebody to let them know unequivocally that it was you, not like your wife or something like that, like somebody like Max. Yeah. Like somebody that's in your life like that.
Like, you know, they had, there was the crack of the neck. They were playing the flute. Like if you're trying to convince me that it's me, that you're like, I'm on that thread. You just talk about the thread.
I just, I mentioned, you could have hacked my phone or something like that. It's got to be like a personal experience. Right. Like something, what's the thing?
Like what's going to be the thing? Like I would like you took me to your childhood diner in Boston. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You guys, I took CR and Sean to cabbage. Yeah. Great. Great.
They didn't want to come. There's this in-laws. Oh, it's been family. I don't remember the invite, but you were the in-laws.
You had like a steady invite, but you're like, I'm good. I had to jump a lot. I have five family members there. Craig, I'll be honest with you.