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Herding Bots

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First published

01/22/2026

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news commentary business politics

Duration

61 minutes

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Firewall with Bradley Tusk

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<p><span style="font-family: var(--bs-font-sans-serif); font-size: 1.125rem; color: var(--bs-accordion-color);">Are AI workers easier to manage than humans?&nbsp;Bradley sits down with&nbsp;Evan Ratliff, creator of the award-winning podcast series,&nbsp;</span><em style="font-family: var(--bs-font-sans-serif); font-size: 1.125rem; color: var(--bs-accordion-color);">Shell Game,</em><span style="font-family: var(--bs-font-sans-serif); font-size: 1.125rem; color: var(--bs-accordion-color);">&nbsp;to talk about the real startup he launched with a staff of AI employees. They discuss the economic, psychological, and regulatory stakes of AI, plus the creepy&nbsp;comedy of working with bots. “Every time I went in to say, ‘Stop talking about this,’” Ratliff says, “it triggered them to talk about it more. They can create endless busy work—endless process—for no real value.”</span></p><p>This&nbsp;episode&nbsp;was&nbsp;taped&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ptknitwear.com/podcasts/about-the-podcast-studio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>P&amp;T&nbsp;Knitwear</u></a>&nbsp;at&nbsp;180&nbsp;Orchard&nbsp;Street&nbsp;—&nbsp;New&nbsp;York&nbsp;City’s&nbsp;only&nbsp;free&nbsp;podcast&nbsp;recording&nbsp;studio.</p><p>Send&nbsp;us&nbsp;an&nbsp;email&nbsp;with&nbsp;your&nbsp;thoughts&nbsp;on&nbsp;today’s&nbsp;episode:&nbsp;<a href="http://[email protected]/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>[email protected]</u></a>.</p><p>Be&nbsp;sure&nbsp;to&nbsp;watch&nbsp;Bradley’s&nbsp;TED&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;on&nbsp;Mobile&nbsp;Voting&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href="https://go.ted.com/bradleytusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>https://go.ted.com/bradleytusk</u></a>.</p><p>Subscribe&nbsp;to&nbsp;Bradley's&nbsp;<a href="https://bradleytusk.us13.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=598eec9b2f3796f83c63c4888&amp;id=f71bd48c53" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>weekly&nbsp;newsletter</u></a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;follow&nbsp;Bradley&nbsp;on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/btusk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>Linkedin</u></a>&nbsp;+&nbsp;<a href="https://bradleytusk.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>Substack</u></a>&nbsp;+&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@firewallpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>YouTube</u></a>.</p>

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