EPISODE · Apr 8, 2026 · 24 MIN
How to Be Second | Leading from the Right Angle
from Fixers & Founders · host Forrest Derr and Tony Lilja
In this episode of Fixers & Founders, Tony and Forrest sit down with Nathan Young — fractional COO, operator, and author of How to Be Second — to explore what it really means to lead from the right-hand seat.Nathan breaks down the identity of a “Second” — not just as a role, but as a way of operating — and why the people behind the scenes are often the ones who turn vision into reality.From navigating crisis moments where 95% of revenue disappears overnight…to simplifying operations down to the fundamentals of get work, do work, get paid…to redefining process as agreement, not documentation…This conversation is a masterclass in clarity, execution, and the work behind the work.If you’re building something that’s growing fast — but needs structure to scale — this one’s for you.Connect with Nathan YoungWebsite: https://howtobesecond.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-s-youngIntro & Outro Music: “Which One Is the Jellyfish?” by Aunt Cynthia’s CabinUsed with permission under a non-exclusive license.Bandcamp: https://auntcynthiascabin.bandcamp.com/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/66kb7d5jDmTkMSs1XcOXTQFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/auntcynthiascabinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/auntcynthiascabin
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In this episode of Fixers & Founders, Tony and Forrest sit down with Nathan Young — fractional COO, operator, and author of How to Be Second — to explore what it really means to lead from the right-hand seat.Nathan breaks down the identity of a “Second” — not just as a role, but as a way of operating — and why the people behind the scenes are often the ones who turn vision into reality.From navigating crisis moments where 95% of revenue disappears overnight…to simplifying operations down to the fundamentals of get work, do work, get paid…to redefining process as agreement, not documentation…This conversation is a masterclass in clarity, execution, and the work behind the work.If you’re building something that’s growing fast — but needs structure to scale — this one’s for you.Connect with Nathan YoungWebsite: https://howtobesecond.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-s-youngIntro & Outro Music: “Which One Is the Jellyfish?” by Aunt Cynthia’s CabinUsed with permission under a non-exclusive license.Bandcamp: https://auntcynthiascabin.bandcamp.com/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/66kb7d5jDmTkMSs1XcOXTQFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/auntcynthiascabinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/auntcynthiascabin
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