How to See Invisible Things With Stephen Roach
Stephen Roach joins the show to talk about Breath and Clay and why it’s built differently than most conferences. With this year’s theme, Making Space, the goal is not a packaged outcome but a shared environment where artists, makers, and seekers can collaborate, experiment, and rediscover how they see the world. They explore why art-making matters for everyone, how creativity trains you to live well in uncertainty, and why beauty operates by a different economy than utility. Stephen shares stories of collaborations born at Breath and Clay and reads an excerpt from his upcoming book, How to See Invisible Things.
Episode 199 of the At Sea with Justin McRoberts podcast, hosted by Justin McRoberts, titled "How to See Invisible Things With Stephen Roach" was published on February 11, 2026 and runs 45 minutes.
February 11, 2026 ·45m · At Sea with Justin McRoberts
Summary
Stephen Roach joins the show to talk about Breath and Clay and why it’s built differently than most conferences. With this year’s theme, Making Space, the goal is not a packaged outcome but a shared environment where artists, makers, and seekers can collaborate, experiment, and rediscover how they see the world. They explore why art-making matters for everyone, how creativity trains you to live well in uncertainty, and why beauty operates by a different economy than utility. Stephen shares stories of collaborations born at Breath and Clay and reads an excerpt from his upcoming book, How to See Invisible Things.
Episode Description
Breath and Clay as a “house of refuge” from cultural noise
Community as collaboration, not organization
Why the event works: clarity plus mystery
Makers show up with projects, not just opinions
Real-world outcomes: collaborations that keep growing after the weekend
Letting fruit scatter without controlling the pipeline
The 2026 theme: Making Space https://www.thebreathandtheclay.com
The icon: the chair
Stephen’s new book: How to See Invisible Things
Inner life and outer life of the artist
“Border-walker” artists and the liminal, unresolved middle
Art as a way of seeing, not a utilitarian product
Scarcity vs abundance as a spiritual and creative posture
Mary “treasuring” as a model for creation and formation
Book excerpt: John Cage 4’33, Quaker silence, sacramental vision
Call to action: make the investment, ditch something else, come to Winston-Salem
https://www.thebreathandtheclay.com
Links For Justin:
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make it
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