EPISODE · May 16, 2026 · 49 MIN
How to Think Differently: Why Thinking Isn't Enough | Michelle Zucker
from Light the Campfire · host Hedda Rehnberg and Lise Pretorius
We often overlook the many layers of what forms our human experience. If we want to think differently - whether for our love of life, our work or own transformation - what else do we need to truly create something different? Is thinking enough or do we need to access other dimensions and sensory layers in the way we process, access and integrate various insights from within ourselves and across domains? We sit down with Michelle Zucker, a systems change designer and Dark Matter Labs collaborator, and an expert in how to think and be differently. We invite the powers of our sensory tentacles, serendipity, awe and more.
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We often overlook the many layers of what forms our human experience. If we want to think differently - whether for our love of life, our work or own transformation - what else do we need to truly create something different? Is thinking enough or do we need to access other dimensions and sensory layers in the way we process, access and integrate various insights from within ourselves and across domains? We sit down with Michelle Zucker, a systems change designer and Dark Matter Labs collaborator, and an expert in how to think and be differently. We invite the powers of our sensory tentacles, serendipity, awe and more.
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