INNOVATE with Michaela Ternasky-Holland

What happens when a storyteller decides joy is just as powerful as impact?In this episode, Ryan sits down with Michaela Holland; award-winning director, immersive storytelling creator, and someone who's spent a career asking better questions about why we tell the stories we tell.They dig into what it really means to innovate (hint: it starts with unlearning), why loneliness is one of the most undertalked challenges in creative leadership, and how to build teams where people actually feel safe enough to do their best work.Michaela also gets candid about AI: not from the sidelines, but from someone who believes artists have to be in the room where those decisions are made.Plus: the creative rituals that refill her, the failures that shaped her, and why curiosity might be the most important leadership skill nobody puts on their resume.This one's for the storytellers, the builders, and anyone who's ever wondered if joy is a good enough reason to make something.