Is God More Than a Story? Jonathan Pageau with Jordan Hall on DarkHorse

Bret Weintein debates Jonathan Pageau with Jordan Hall on whether science or religion can save humanity from itself.Find Jonathan Pageau at https://www.thesymbolicworld.com and on x at https://x.com/PageauJonathan Bret thanks Redeemer Anglican Church for loaning them the space to do this podcast.*****Thank you to our sponsor of this episode, Fresh-Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to http://www.GetFreshDarkHorse.com to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comCheck out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.orgTheme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Mentioned in this episode:Ancient Wisdom, Modern World: Bret Speaks with Jonathan Pageau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NYz1DJ4ByM*****Timestamps:00:00:00 Welcoming Pageau & Jordan Hall00:02:00 Science, Faith & Materialism's Limits00:08:08 Sponsor: Fresh-Pressed Olive Oil Club00:10:42 Why Science Can't Provide Values00:16:42 COVID & the Collapse of Shared Values00:19:55 AI & the Missing Ethical Framework00:21:06 Cults, Religions & the Test of Time00:27:46 Ideology vs. Faith: What Corrupts00:42:55 Martyrdom, Lineage & Christianity00:49:15 Group Selection & Game Theory00:57:40 The Religion of Religions00:58:08 Judaism, Islam & Ceasefire01:07:50 Love as the Principle of Principles01:16:00 Human Dignity & the Game Theory Problem01:23:32 Moloch vs. the Heavenly Jerusalem01:29:41 Which Churches Survive? 01:39:57 Humility & the Unfinished Story...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDljYM2oJHs