EPISODE · Jan 15, 2026 · 38 MIN
It’s Not What You Think (& Why), with Dr. Jared Rubenstein, Pediatric Palliative Care Physician
from Grand Exit · host Tamatha and Chelsea
This week on Grand Exit, Tamatha and Chelsea are joined by Dr. Jared Rubenstein — a pediatric palliative care doctor who brings clarity, humor, and heart to conversations people all too often avoid, even in the moments they matter most. Together, the three explore medicine’s blind spots, cultural weirdness with death, and how care changes when we slow down and truly listen.You can expect to hear:A working definition of palliative care; and what keeps 70% of Americans from knowing thatHow end-of-life conversations, and naming what’s already with us (instead of ‘staying positive’), can connect patients with family members and care teamsTwo questions that reframe everything: “At baseline, what does a good day look like?” And “What are we actually fighting for?”A solid (and goofy) reminder of how palliative care is the fire department; not the fireAnd more…. . . .Digging what you're hearing?- Share Grand Exit with someone who matters to you- Rate + review Grand Exit - tell us what it inspires in your world- Connect on Instagram: @grand.exit - Get Tamatha + Chelsea’s notes to your inbox: grandexit.com/newsletter
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This week on Grand Exit, Tamatha and Chelsea are joined by Dr. Jared Rubenstein — a pediatric palliative care doctor who brings clarity, humor, and heart to conversations people all too often avoid, even in the moments they matter most. Together, the three explore medicine’s blind spots, cultural weirdness with death, and how care changes when we slow down and truly listen.You can expect to hear:A working definition of palliative care; and what keeps 70% of Americans from knowing thatHow end-of-life conversations, and naming what’s already with us (instead of ‘staying positive’), can connect patients with family members and care teamsTwo questions that reframe everything: “At baseline, what does a good day look like?” And “What are we actually fighting for?”A solid (and goofy) reminder of how palliative care is the fire department; not the fireAnd more…. . . .Digging what you're hearing?- Share Grand Exit with someone who matters to you- Rate + review Grand Exit - tell us what it inspires in your world- Connect on Instagram: @grand.exit - Get Tamatha + Chelsea’s notes to your inbox: grandexit.com/newsletter
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