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EPISODE · May 7, 2026 · 1H 7M

it's time to say no to people pleasing with tobie donovan

from Live A Little with Nikki Lilly · host Nikki Lilly/W!ZARD Studios

welcome back to live a little.. this week nikki, is sitting down with actor and longtime friend tobie donovan (from heartstopper)! nikki and tobie dive straight into cinema room dreams, the academy museum in LA (dorothy's shoes! maria's dress! the shark from jaws!), and letterboxd panic about whether to be honest or cool with your top four films. tobie opens up about the pivotal moment that made him want to act - seeing the gender-swapped production of company in the west end with jonathan bailey, he talks about wanting to tell stories in unexpected ways and create space for himself in the industry. nikki and tobie also get real about the pressure of being a people pleaser, learning to say no (tobie's been working on it in therapy), and why it's so hard to put yourself first when you're wired to make everyone else comfortable. they also discuss rejection in the acting world - how you can't internalise every no as personal and the importance of separating your value from the yes or no. tobie's wisdom? if you can't brush off rejection, you can't do the job. if you've ever struggled with people-pleasing, felt the weight of constant rejection, or just needed to hear that journaling might actually help... this one's for you. don't forget to subscribe and don't miss new episodes every thursday! Follow Live A Little with Nikki Lilly Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@livealittlepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@livealittlepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@livealittlepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

welcome back to live a little.. this week nikki, is sitting down with actor and longtime friend tobie donovan (from heartstopper)! nikki and tobie dive straight into cinema room dreams, the academy museum in LA (dorothy's shoes! maria's dress! the shark from jaws!), and letterboxd panic about whether to be honest or cool with your top four films. tobie opens up about the pivotal moment that made him want to act - seeing the gender-swapped production of company in the west end with jonathan bailey, he talks about wanting to tell stories in unexpected ways and create space for himself in the industry. nikki and tobie also get real about the pressure of being a people pleaser, learning to say no (tobie's been working on it in therapy), and why it's so hard to put yourself first when you're wired to make everyone else comfortable. they also discuss rejection in the acting world - how you can't internalise every no as personal and the importance of separating your value from the yes or no. tobie's wisdom? if you can't brush off rejection, you can't do the job. if you've ever struggled with people-pleasing, felt the weight of constant rejection, or just needed to hear that journaling might actually help... this one's for you. don't forget to subscribe and don't miss new episodes every thursday! Follow Live A Little with Nikki Lilly Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@livealittlepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@livealittlepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@livealittlepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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welcome back to live a little.. this week nikki, is sitting down with actor and longtime friend tobie donovan (from heartstopper)! nikki and tobie dive straight into cinema room dreams, the academy museum in LA (dorothy's shoes! maria's dress! the...

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