EPISODE · Dec 17, 2025 · 32 MIN
Justin Ergler
from Pioneers and Pathfinders · host Seyfarth Shaw LLP
For our last episode of the year, we’re pleased to welcome back to the podcast Justin Ergler. Justin is a consultant focused on legal operations, outside counsel management, and client value strategy. Listeners may know Justin from his work at GlaxoSmithKline, where he pioneered the award-winning Outside Counsel Selection Initiative and led the company’s global transition away from the billable hour to non-hourly, value-based fee arrangements. Justin also co-founded the Legal Value Network and continues to serve as a board member. Additionally, Justin is co-host of the podcast Off the Clock with Keith Maziarek. Justin and Keith had previously joined us for a two-part discussion in May. Today, Justin returns for a one-on-one conversation about finding the procurement path, why he values being part of a team, helping law firms tackle the challenges of data, and his thoughts on generative AI’s impact on legal services pricing. We will be off the next two weeks. Happy holidays to all our listeners and thank you for another great year! We will return January 7 with a new episode. Read the full transcript of today's episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/Pioneers_JustinErgler.pdf
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For our last episode of the year, we’re pleased to welcome back to the podcast Justin Ergler. Justin is a consultant focused on legal operations, outside counsel management, and client value strategy. Listeners may know Justin from his work at GlaxoSmithKline, where he pioneered the award-winning Outside Counsel Selection Initiative and led the company’s global transition away from the billable hour to non-hourly, value-based fee arrangements. Justin also co-founded the Legal Value Network and continues to serve as a board member. Additionally, Justin is co-host of the podcast Off the Clock with Keith Maziarek. Justin and Keith had previously joined us for a two-part discussion in May. Today, Justin returns for a one-on-one conversation about finding the procurement path, why he values being part of a team, helping law firms tackle the challenges of data, and his thoughts on generative AI’s impact on legal services pricing. We will be off the next two weeks. Happy holidays to all our listeners and thank you for another great year! We will return January 7 with a new episode. Read the full transcript of today's episode here: https://www.seyfarth.com/dir_docs/podcast_transcripts/Pioneers_JustinErgler.pdf
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