EPISODE · Apr 7, 2026 · 1H 13M
KAREN READ V. EVERYONE - PT. 5
from Gavel and Gossip · host Leslie and Kristan
In this episode, we finish discussing the defendants’ responses to Karen Read’s complaint against the house defendants and police officers for conspiracy and malicious prosecution. Here, we break down the rest of the house defendants’ arguments—including statute of limitations, probable cause, and why, even taking Karen Read’s allegations as true, it still may not be enough to sustain her claims. We talk through the legal standards behind a motion to dismiss under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6), what “probable cause” really means in practice (and why it’s so frustratingly subjective), and why we think Karen Read has an uphill battle. We also dive into the house defendants’ core theory: that they had no duty to tell the truth, had no control over the police investigation, and cannot be held liable simply for what they said to law enforcement—and why we agree that we don’t want witnesses to be scared to speak to police, even if what they are saying isn’t true.In response, Karen Read has filed a First Amended Complaint, and we walk through the new allegations and her attempts to tie everything together into a broader conspiracy narrative involving law enforcement bias, investigative failures, and alleged evidence manipulation.The information provided in this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The content should not be construed as legal advice or any lawyer client relationship.The information is not a substitute for professional legal counsel. THESE ARE JUST OUR OPINIONS!!!Reach out or follow us:[email protected]: @gavel_and_gossipTikTok: @gavel.gossipLeslie's Instagram: @lesliecaesqKristan's Instagram: @krush18CLIPS NOW ON YOUTUBE! Gavel_and_GossipLinks, episode information, documents and pictures credits can be found at: https://sites.google.com/view/gavelandgossip/home
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In this episode, we finish discussing the defendants’ responses to Karen Read’s complaint against the house defendants and police officers for conspiracy and malicious prosecution. Here, we break down the rest of the house defendants’ arguments—including statute of limitations, probable cause, and why, even taking Karen Read’s allegations as true, it still may not be enough to sustain her claims. We talk through the legal standards behind a motion to dismiss under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6), what “probable cause” really means in practice (and why it’s so frustratingly subjective), and why we think Karen Read has an uphill battle. We also dive into the house defendants’ core theory: that they had no duty to tell the truth, had no control over the police investigation, and cannot be held liable simply for what they said to law enforcement—and why we agree that we don’t want witnesses to be scared to speak to police, even if what they are saying isn’t true.In response, Karen Read has filed a First Amended Complaint, and we walk through the new allegations and her attempts to tie everything together into a broader conspiracy narrative involving law enforcement bias, investigative failures, and alleged evidence manipulation.The information provided in this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The content should not be construed as legal advice or any lawyer client relationship.The information is not a substitute for professional legal counsel. THESE ARE JUST OUR OPINIONS!!!Reach out or follow us:[email protected]: @gavel_and_gossipTikTok: @gavel.gossipLeslie's Instagram: @lesliecaesqKristan's Instagram: @krush18CLIPS NOW ON YOUTUBE! Gavel_and_GossipLinks, episode information, documents and pictures credits can be found at: https://sites.google.com/view/gavelandgossip/home
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