LAL Live Part 2: Joseph Tully + Government Tampering (NPS May 16)

Is sex a sacrement or a form of recreation? That's not why we invited Joe on, but that's where we begin. Norm is joined in the second hour by Joseph Tully, defense attorney for founder of NXIVM and the recently convicted Keith Raniere.  Joe is one of the most successful criminal defense lawyers in northern California, and he just got done arguing an appeal of Raniere's recent conviction for sex trafficking which resulted in a 120-year prison sentence. Still, Norm finds his involvement in this case curious. So why is Joe involved? Well, he believes the case was sullied by the government's tampering with and fabricating of evidence in the case against Raniere.  Get to know the company that NXIVM is and was. Why do people join self-help organizations? And what were people going to NXIVM for? Like, share, and subscribe! Norm is live every weekday from 12pm ET to 2pm ET on WICC600. Stream Norm live at https://www.wicc600.com/. Follow @PattisPodcast on Twitter.