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EPISODE · May 28, 2026 · 49 MIN

Learning To Occupy Spaces Without Representation

from Wait, I'm Black?! · host WIB Podcast

In this episode of Wait, I’m Black?!, Michael sits in conversation with Christine Kinnear – award-winning Founder and CEO of With Insight Education – about growing up Black in the UK, the lasting impact of early racial experiences, and the quiet ways underrepresentation shapes what people, especially young people, believe is possible for them.Christine reflects on encountering racism at a painfully young age. But this conversation also explores something less obvious: the impact of what isn’t present – the absence of representation, visibility, and affirmation in the spaces young people grow up within.They discuss how children absorb messages about belonging, value, and potential long before they fully understand race, and why seeing yourself reflected in positions of possibility matters more than many realise.This is a thoughtful conversation about identity, aspiration, and the subtle ways the world teaches people where they do, or do not, belong.If you would like to follow the journey, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts or follow us on Instagram (@wibpodcast). And if you – or someone you know – has a “Wait, I’m Black?!” moment you’d like to share, you are welcome to reach out.

In this episode of Wait, I’m Black?!, Michael sits in conversation with Christine Kinnear – award-winning Founder and CEO of With Insight Education – about growing up Black in the UK, the lasting impact of early racial experiences, and the quiet ways underrepresentation shapes what people, especially young people, believe is possible for them.Christine reflects on encountering racism at a painfully young age. But this conversation also explores something less obvious: the impact of what isn’t present – the absence of representation, visibility, and affirmation in the spaces young people grow up within.They discuss how children absorb messages about belonging, value, and potential long before they fully understand race, and why seeing yourself reflected in positions of possibility matters more than many realise.This is a thoughtful conversation about identity, aspiration, and the subtle ways the world teaches people where they do, or do not, belong.If you would like to follow the journey, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts or follow us on Instagram (@wibpodcast). And if you – or someone you know – has a “Wait, I’m Black?!” moment you’d like to share, you are welcome to reach out.

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