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EPISODE · Sep 19, 2025 · 1H 6M

Legal Plunder: Making Money Off of Policing and Punishment

from Dialogue Across Difference · host Dialogue Across Difference Podcast by Center for the Study of Politics and Governance

Over the past 40 years, the campaign to “get tough on crime” has been redesigned to generate vast revenue streams for governments and corporations. Today, practices that criminalize, police, and punish serve a second purpose as tools of resource extraction, disproportionately targeting low-income communities of color. Legal Plunder by Joshua Page and Joe Soss investigates the origins, operations, and consequences of this enterprise. The authors are joined by a panel of policy makers, researchers, and commentators that span the ideological spectrum from the left to libertarian including Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison and George Mason University Law Professor Ilya Somin in an event moderated by University of Minnesota Professor Karen Ho.

Over the past 40 years, the campaign to “get tough on crime” has been redesigned to generate vast revenue streams for governments and corporations. Today, practices that criminalize, police, and punish serve a second purpose as tools of resource extraction, disproportionately targeting low-income communities of color. Legal Plunder by Joshua Page and Joe Soss investigates the origins, operations, and consequences of this enterprise. The authors are joined by a panel of policy makers, researchers, and commentators that span the ideological spectrum from the left to libertarian including Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison and George Mason University Law Professor Ilya Somin in an event moderated by University of Minnesota Professor Karen Ho.

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