Visit BetMDM Casino and check out the newest exclusive! The price is right, Fortune Pick! BetMDM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly, 19 plus the wager, Ontario only, please play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact the next Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor, free of charge.
BetMDM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with eye-gaming Ontario. Come, walk down the winding path, don't mind the spooks and monsters, they stay hidden within the trees. There are mysteries in this world that you need to know, and paranormal truths. That need to be told.
Come, step up into the caravan while we share tales of old, as well as new accounts about things you thought only existed in your nightmares. Good evening, friends of the caravan. Thank you for stopping by tonight when you greatly appreciate it. Before we get into tonight's episode, I would like to take a moment and thank all of you that gave us a positive response in which we have received for our Sunday night, Facebook Live, video promotion for our Patreon, Vampire Box.
It was so well received and greatly appreciated. Thank you so very much. If you would like to become our Patreon, you can go to patreon.com and just type in the caravan of lore. And of course, donation amounts are at your discretion, but we do greatly appreciate it.
I do want to say that Jennifer and myself do take a lot of notes, and it is our goal for each week that passes by to bring you a better and better and better show. This is what we strive for. We love to hear your stories, we love to share our stories, and we love to hear the stories of the world. So thank you again so very much.
You can also contact us at thecaravanoflore at gmail.com. Tonight's episode, which is week number four of loretober, is witches. And Jennifer and myself really discuss just the symbolism of which the witch represents. So here we go, which witch is witch.
Witches, you know, Halloween and the icons of Halloween is ghosts, goblins, witches, and jack-o-lanterns. But still, to this day, the witch is used as a Halloween icon. And I find that rather interesting considering the fact that witches are not necessarily evil, but there's a lot of legend and lore as to why they got framed that way. How are you, Jen?
I'm done, guys. Are you a good witch or a bad witch? No comment. Very, very well said.
Good for you. No. I'd like to give things a mystery, thank you. You know, watched, you know, The Wizard of Oz and Glenda the Good Witch.
She had such a typical fairy wand with the star on the end of it. It's kind of null by today's standards, a little disappointing to see that little magic wand with a little sparkly star on the end of it. I'd rather seen an old rickety stick. But witches, you know, there were some interesting points that probably a lot of our listeners might not know about the witches just because you never really sad to think about, well, what brought this about?
One of them is the witch's hat. And I don't know if you have any thought on the typical witch hat. You go into any costume store and you say, do you have a witch hat? Well, they will point you in the direction of a brimmed hat with a very tall pointed top, right?
And there's black, you know, there's witches hat. But then I thought, well, how did all that come about? And there is just kind of a possible solution to that through research. Believe it or not, there were those that did do research that it was quite possibly an artist's exaggeration and rendition of the tall conical dunce cap that was used in the royal court back in the 15th century.
And, you know, with the dunce cap, which we all remember from, you know, your typical 1940s school boys and girls that had to sit in the corner with the dunce cap, it was shamed. And it was just kind of putting to that speculation of the witch and made it, you know, this black pointed conical hat to give the reference to whatever this is. It's not good. I found that kind of interesting because a lot of depictions in medieval times of witches generally had some sort of headwear, whether it's been scarves or, you know, their hair was tied up, you know, in different ways, but never really a representation of that typical wicked witch hat that we all make reference to in Halloween spirit.
So I found that rather interesting. But the dunce cap, you know, go figure. And of course, the black, where I mean black is pretty much, you know, symbolic of the dark magic. But, you know, I don't believe that all witches are, you know, dark magic.
I believe that there's more good witches than there are bad witches, but I don't know how many different kinds of witches there are. I know that they are legend and lore from all over the world in different fashion. It's just here in the United States, and it has spread worldwide of the wicked witch being a green or, you know, haggard old woman with the worded nose and very ugly and green was really pushed to the forefront through the Wizard of Oz. And, you know, back in the 30s, when that movie came up, that just, I kind of sized the wicked witch period could fly in the broom and had that typical warty old haggard wicked witch with that evil laugh.
And it was really designed to scare children into behavior. And you must be a favor, you will deal with it, which I will get you my pretty little dog too. So, you know, and of course, you know, Wizard of Oz went worldwide once that theatrical release hit, you know, theaters and being that it was one of the very first big motion pictures that have color. It just made it so magical.
And, you know, what in all honesty, it's still a very magical movie to see today. So, it holds its own. But, this isn't really so much about the Wizard of Oz as it is the wicked witch and where she actually came from. The broom, you know, the broom.
I don't know how many of our listeners would really put two and three together. I thought about the fact, you know, what is it that came about, that a witch flies around in a broom. It is the least most aerodynamic object I know of. And let alone the fact that you're going to sit on this thing and fly around.
And, of course, you know, it's popularized in Harry Potter. But I think, you know, with the Harry Potter series, they had taken the concept of the witch broom and just adapted it into wizards and witches being able to fly in the broom. But where did that actually originate? And I will tell our listeners right now, if you have children listening to this episode, you might want to plug their ears or put headphones on and listen yourself.
Because I was rather taken back by how that entire lore of the flying broom actually came about. And it started with, this goes back into a medieval period with witches burrow. And we've all heard the term witches burrow, and you can make witches burrow for parties and so on. But the original witches burrow were, for those that couldn't get their hands on me, which is, you know, a wine that was very popular back in medieval period.
And people were, and they're especially women, but people were creating their own concoction. And it was referred to as the witches burrow. I kind of had a little bit of trouble naming off all of the herbs that were used in the witches burrow. I know one of them is referred to as nightshade, which is at Tropia Belladonna, which I've never heard of before.
I don't know if you've heard of it or not, but that was one main ingredient in the witches burrow. But what it ended up becoming was a hallucinogenic. It was a toxic, a toxic hallucinogenic. And now in the medieval period, this gets a little complicated, but when you back off and you take a look at the whole story, it's not really complicated at all.
But back in the medieval period, and this is where it kind of gets a little bit of an adult theme to it, the broom was used as a symbol in marriage, being that the handle represented the male and the bristles represented the female. And of course, it's done in a sexual content, but that's why the broom was used as the symbol of marriage. Well, being that this witches burrow, as the toxic hallucinogen that it was, was most effective if it was applied in the areas that had large amounts of swag land. So it was either in the armpit or in the genitalia area.
The most effective tool to apply this hallucinogenic was on the handle of the broom. And it just turned out that that's how the term came about to see the witch fly, because they were on this hallucinogen. And it just kind of morphed into kind of actually kind of freaky when you think about it. But yeah, that's how that really kind of started with the whole broom thing itself.
It sounded like you were familiar with the broom being used as the symbol of man and wife. I had read in the past that during some ceremonies, they would jump over a broom. When they were getting married. So that's the part that I've heard.
And then to back it up a little bit more, you were talking about different types of witches. And I have a list here. I'll just kind of read off of it a little bit. There are kitchen witches.
Oh, yes. Yes. I had a kitchen witch, as a matter of fact, yes. Go on.
They are women who might use, you know, they are usually healers and they will work with plants and stones and flowers and trees and all this stuff and practice, you know, like when you make something in the kitchen, you can have stones in there with you and you're setting the intention and all that kind of stuff. And then here it says green witch is the practice of nature based and earth oriented witchcraft drawing on the folklore, folk religion and folk magic of ancient cultures as they connected to the forest, such as the tree worship of druids, the kitchen craft of Italian witches, or the keeping of sacred groves as presented in Gaelic paganism. Green witch is usually practiced, the traditional form of witchcraft in which the earth, trees, herbs, plants, and flowers are consulted for their medicinal and magical value. You see, that's a very positive witch to me.
Right. And I'll end up getting to that a little bit. Another kind of says hedge witch. Hedgecraft is a path that is somewhat shamanic in nature, as they are practitioners of an earth-based spirituality.
These are the ones who engage in spirit, flight, and journey into the other world. They can, in this capacity, be very powerful midwives and healers. And then it says here, there's just solitary witches, which can be practitioners of nearly any magical system. A solitary works alone and does not join a group or a cousin.
And the term witch, from what I understand, just basically means a wise woman. So it has very, you know, negative image. Right. Yes.
Right. Yes. And when really it's just somebody that, you know, works with intentions and earth and, you know, the things that I mentioned on the list. And it's amazing that, well, it's really quick, they have used witch, well, we back up.
So as a form to, you know, like control women, you know, a lot of women were burned at the state. I mean, there are things that I do in my life that if you put me back in time, they would burn you. Yeah. No, of course.
And that was definitely a period of time. None of us would have wanted to live in, let alone, you know, the famine and disease and, you know, the lack of common sense through science. Yeah, it's very scary. Just because of the fact that, you know, a woman goes through its natural cycle, you would have been burned at the state.
That's unfair. And it was terrifying now when you look back on it. But yes, you know, when you brought up, you know, the negative connotation of the word witch, usually the knee jerk reaction is something that's evil, a woman that's evil. Right.
That's so untrue. But it's funny how it got stereotyped that way. It's the same thing with what you were just explaining in the different types of witches, I believe it was the green witch. Paganism is the farthest thing from the evil intent in which it was stereotyped as, oh, or devil worshippers?
No, or not. Paganistic is very religious in the belief of the trees and the earth, water and the fire and the green and the earth itself. And that is what you are taking your thanks in. And you're basing your spiritual life around that.
And nothing to do with the underworld and the darkness, just people misunderstand. And when people misunderstand, they immediately will throw a negative connotation into it. And it's kind of unfortunate for those that do practice that are immediately referred to as something dark. And, you know, it's those that are uneducated, they fear the unknown.
And if they don't know about a certain subject, they just immediately kind of put it off in. You know, it must be involved in the dark arts. No, not really. You can be fascinated with the subject.
Could you imagine us talking about this subject back in the medieval period? We would have all been burned at the state just for talking about it. So, you know, it's very scary. You know, I find it, I don't know, because again, when you were talking about the different kind of witches, you said the green witch.
And the only other term that I know that green witch is involved with is universal time. And every country in the world or around the globe to be more specific so that people have a bit more understanding, we all go by the same time. And it's for world communication. So, then it's called green witch meantime.
So, the clock is the same in Japan as it is here. And the time that it is here is the same as it is in London on the green witch meantime, so that everybody is coordinated together on the same time frame. So, everybody has a complete understanding. When we say four o'clock green witch meantime, everybody will be together at four o'clock green witch meantime.
And I wonder if there was a correlation between the green witch and how that time frame was set up because it's actually a very positive entity to tie the world together to be on the same page with one another. And from what you were describing, you know, it seemed like a very positive aspect of the green witch. So, I wonder if there's a correlation on that. I might have to look into that and we'll put it in the comment section or in the show notes.
And you can take a look below and we'll see if it's in the show notes. If I did find something about the green witch, it would be interesting. Did you have any others type of kitchen witch? When you said kitchen witch, I completely forgot about my kitchen witch.
You know, we had a kitchen witch. I don't know what to mean by kitchen witch because I had a kitchen witch. Right. But when you said that, the only time I've ever heard the term kitchen witch was an actual little three-dimensional figurine doll.
And I say doll, it really wasn't. But it was a little witch, you know, your typical warty, no little witch that sat on a broom and you hung her in your kitchen and she brought, you know, good wealth and good food and good spirits into your kitchen. Yeah. And you hang it in your kitchen.
And it's very popular in the Italian culture. And, you know, oh, yeah. And I thought it was really kind of cool. So as soon as you said kitchen witch, I remember the kitchen witch I used to have in my kitchen.
I'm like, Hey, I forgot all about her. But yeah, it was really cool. You know, I don't know if you've ever seen a little crafty witches that they made with women's nylons to make the face. No, I'm sure you could find them online.
I'm sure they're still probably very popular, you know, and Etsy. I'm sure probably sells kitchen witches still today. But yeah, it's just, you know, it's a good luck symbol to hang in your kitchen. And it brings good food and good wealth and good spirits into your kitchen.
You won't, you won't burn the toast. That's something I might need. So see, again, there's the witch in a very positive light and very, very positive and upbeat light, even though she was kind of an ugly woman, but God bless the ugly women because of the fact that, you know, they're nicer. So there you go.
Oh, geez. I mean, they need love too. They need love too. Anyway, big, big, warty nose.
Yeah, come on. Thingy loves you. There was a TV show that my kids and I were watching. It was called The Worst Witch.
And it was about how this one girl, she was like born with human parents. But for some reason, she was a witch and she ended up going to this Academy and everything. And this one girl, she concocted a potion that caused her to grow work on her nose. Because I guess in the show, to have a wort meant that you were extremely powerful.
And her older sister, who was like the valedictorian, was just in disbelief, you know, and I can't believe she got a wort and I didn't. Wow, right? Yeah, yeah, it was a good good job. So if anybody was kids, definitely took out The Worst Witch.
Well, and then again, it's kind of done in a positive aspect again that, you know, okay, so the woman's got a wort. She's got special powers. I kind of like that. And it's not necessarily you.
Yeah, like what you said me earlier about, you know, yeah, the witches boob. Well, the different markings that people might have on their body. Oh, right. The fact that they are a witch.
Yes, that was one of the things that women back in those days when they burn them, they would be subject to these what we called a most screaming of the whole body group. But yeah, we're I mean, totally nude and have to get our entire body checked because they're looking for certain kinds of birthmark scars, or like, well, like a skin tag. Wouldn't that be what it would be called? I'm gonna probably, sure.
Okay, so just because you have this little oddity on your body that was completely harmless, you were burned at the state. Right. And well, and some of them were witches marks, I'll call it the other one was a devil's mark, right? But I want them all in the same thing.
Yeah, but still either one would get you killed. So if you have a birthmark, or you guys, I've got one too. I've got a bit of that. You're a witch.
Well, we know you're a witch. That's why. We know. It's just funny because the older you get, the more witch marks you get in your life, I'm like, must be getting tattooed with my own natural witch marks.
Right. Now, is it true that a male witch is a warlock or is warlock completely different? No, I believe it's the same. At least on all the shows that I've seen and everything I've heard is always been nuts at the male witch.
But then you've got a wizard. I kind of thought so too. Yeah, I kind of thought the warlock was just the male version of, you know, what a witch is in the female version. It seems as though the witch is more dominant than the warlock is.
But again, the warlock is taken in an evil context. And you say warlock immediately go dark and evil with it. Well, what if he's just like a good wizard dude that just kind of wants to sprinkle some cool sparkly glamour on you and we're going back in the vampires, which I refuse to get back into the vampire. We'll go down to many rabbit holes all over again.
And thank you, Shannon, the girl for the shout out on the free radio. Make sure you listen to the free radio every Thursday at the end of the episode of Standard Time. I am going to go to her website into the free radio.com because there's an episode that it was, for some reason, this episode is a most memorable one for me. And it happened to me about it.
It happened to me about a witch. And I really think that I listened to it. I do remember that. I'm glad you brought that up because then we can expand on her witch topic a little bit with the use of another podcast.
No, I'm just saying that they need to give it a listen because it was interesting. I do remember. And of course, you know, the first 10. I thought it would have been a little bit further down the road than the first 10, but you'll probably find it a lot faster than myself.
Well, I'm already on 19. Yeah, keep going. Keep going. Wait, this is live research.
It is ITF 22 Ouija and the unintended guest. I think that's it too. So that's ITF episode 22 and I'll have to remind me and I'll put that in the show notes. I believe the Ouija board was the icon picture used for that episode.
Yes. Oh, but wait. Okay. But wait, there is ITF 24 listener stories from Southwest to witches and purses.
So that actually lies in it. Either way, I'll put them both of them in. But try the one that says witches first because that story was, you know, there was a guy and he actually had an experience with somebody that used a curse type of thing. And yeah, so they just I don't want to spoil it.
But yeah, I definitely go check that out. And just a slight spot on curses. It's amazing that just what the mind can do, whether somebody actually put one on you or not, just the fact that you hear them say it, you can cite yourself out so bad tomorrow. Oh, sure.
You created it yourself. Oh, I totally believe that. You know, I kind of fell into that into that vortex myself as a younger. I won't any moment from here back.
I was younger. But as a child, you know, I would find a four leaf clover and it's like taking a placebo. You manifested every bit of good luck that you had that day regardless of the fact that you stubbed your toe. You kind of totally blew that off because you were having good luck for the entire day.
And this is things are wonderful. And you find a penny. Oh, I'm going to have good luck all day long. This is fantastic.
And you know, it's how you it's how you would look at it. But if somebody were to put a curse on you, sure, anything negative gets amplified. And he said, well, it might be the perfect way, sure. And and look at the of the effects of it.
It is kind of creepy. You know, I was having a conversation with a coworker this evening, as a matter of fact, Bill. And you know, I told them our episode for this week is witches. He's like, oh, that's really interesting, especially the fact that witches really are not evil.
And I found that rather profound that he said that because, you know, he's not really big into the witch and ghost and goblin thing. But the fact that he knew enough to say through history, no, the witch was not actually an evil entity. It was, you know, trying to conjure up the spirit that's positive in the world around us. And for all things that we don't know, it would conjure up those things, you know, to answer all those questions that we don't know.
And then it kind of transforms itself off into, you know, the gypsy and the crystal ball and how many of them were considered witches. Well, they were just, you know, fortune tellers to earn money out of their caravan. And there's a little onion, right? You like that?
But they would have been considered witches just because of the fact that they were using, you know, this so-called power that they had to look in the crystal ball and be able to see the future and tell fortunes. And so, yeah, the definition of which definitely is kind of morphed into something in an unpleasant way and a negative connotation. And I know I've used the word connotation too much as you think, but- Can I talk about those lots of you by connotation? Connotation.
Connotation. Oh, fantastic. Thank you, everybody. Thank you for listening to this episode of Sesame Street.
Don't forget to eat your bananas. It starts with a letter B. Oh my gosh. Do you see how Sesame Street has affected us as adults?
We still don't remember all our basic lessons of life through, so maybe Sesame Street is a witch. Do you ever think of that? They dressed up as witches on Halloween episodes. They did.
Yeah. Yeah. The count is one of my favorites. You know, I have one favorite.
I have to get this out there. Not many people know who I'm talking about. So I'm going to point to you guys if you know what I'm talking about here. There was a little segment where it was tiny little super guy.
And it was this little guy on a glass cup and he comes dancing out of the cupboard and he had the full adventure in the kitchen. Does it sound familiar to you? Is this from Sesame Street? Yes.
No. It doesn't sound familiar at all. No. Really?
You have it? You too, but tiny little super guy. Sesame Street. Best stuff ever.
My favorite. Wow. I'm just picturing Indians in the cupboard. No.
You know, I don't know if you know that story, you know, the Indians in the cupboard. Okay. Well, that's all it takes. But no, I don't remember that character or that.
Wow. What were the writers doing behind the scenes? They came over that one. I would say that more about the guys that meet with the big mouths.
Yeah. Do you remember those guys? Overcool. Yeah.
The two old men in the theater. That was one of my favorites. Yeah. That's my dad's favorite.
And I had a Grover as a little kid. I had a Grover. I don't know if you remember Grover. He was kind of a cross between Oscar the Grouch and Cookie Monster.
I kind of thought maybe the two of them got together and gave birth to Grover, but no. Well, I had a book with Grover in it, but my absolute favorite thing of Sesame Street ever was, and you can Google it. Yeah. If I could live on the moon, it's a song, and it's with Bert and Ernie, or just Ernie, and somebody singing it, right?
And it says, like, if I could live on the moon or, you know, it was like saying that I would, I would touch all the stars, but then I'd want to come home and type of the thing. It was just a really sweet, loving song. And really. Definitely.
Yeah, you'll have to. We'll put that in the snow notes. How about that? No.
I don't know, man. Listen to that. It's bad enough they had to hear us talk about it. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm starting to wonder about what you remember as a child, you know? Seriously? Hey, man.
What do I always say? I'm only 30. That's pretty sweet. I never think I might like to visit the moon before I do.
Well, I'd like to visit the moon on a rocket ship high, and see if there's a future. Yes, I'd like to visit the moon, but I don't think I'd like to visit the moon. This episode was brought to you by an entire episode of Sesame Street. Oh, my God.
We'll put a link to that song in the show notes too, right? Oh, my God. We go from like this heavy conversation of witches right into Sesame Street. I mean, talk about it.
Oh, man. Put your seatbelt on people because we're going for a serious ride right here. Well, thank you. I appreciate it.
We've spent the whole month of October doing lower sobering. Yes. We've spent the time scaring all of our listeners or trying to, you know, bring it up a little bit. Yeah.
See, this is the sweet treat in your little trick-or-treat bag. It was a little bit of Sesame Street for you. That's right. That's what it is.
It's like getting a full-size candy bar instead of a five-size bag. It is, exactly. You know, I dispute that. You don't put fun-size on the tiny candy bar.
You put it on the large one. What's so fun about this tiny little thing? No, that's not fun. The big one is the fun size.
So they completely got that bag. And no, you just give me the big honk and snicker bar and put fun-size on that. Yeah. All right.
Milky Way. We must get yours. What? What's your favorite candy bar, John?
What's your favorite candy bar, John? I like, if we're going for regular Halloween candy bars, I'd have to do either Reese's. Shout out to Ryan's Frog there for that. Hey.
Great. Um... Or, um... Or...
Twix. All right. Twix are okay. They're better than Kit-Cats.
So I'll give you a... Don't ever give a cat. No. We don't do Kit-Cats.
No. They come with us. Yeah. No.
They come with us. I'm sorry. But if I could have any candy bar, my favorite secret. Oh.
Yes. Okay. Mm-hmm. As a 70% dark chocolate.
Oh. Oh. Oh. I have some without blueberries in my freezer right now.
I love the 70%. Yes. But I like it when it's frozen and it's super hard and crunchy and the goodness. It's just...
It's very healthy for you. Nothing wrong with it. It's low in sugar and high in antioxidants. That's right.
You know. No. White chocolate is not chocolate. Yes.
Yes. It's a good bit for you all to break your heart. You know. A white chocolate.
That's part of the underworld. That's where that belongs. You know. If you do bad in life and you get sent to the bad burning place, they'll probably just have white chocolate there and you'll just be all bummed out.
Really? This is a white chocolate? No. No.
Okay. My mother had a chocolate allergy and so she would eat the white chocolate. She's like... Oh.
No it's not. No. I'm sorry, but you lose on that one. Just give me the dark chocolate.
And I was first introduced with the dark chocolate. Thank you to Hershey's when they first came out with Hershey's special dark. I'm like, who this is so much better? Well, then Dove jumped into that and Dove said, yeah, but our dark chocolate's really good.
And I'm like, yeah, this is really good. Now there's a whole bunch of dark chocolate out there. And I'm like, yum yum. There was like...
It was a Christmas that one of our family members had brought over this like... I don't know. It was like a 90 something percent dark chocolate bar. Yeah, that's really better.
Right. And so I ended up trying dark chocolate for the first time. Like it's worse. And so...
Yeah, that's too bitter. It is. And so going back, I mean, I think that about 80 to 85 is about where I can still enjoy that. Yeah.
No. At 90... That's just Baker's chocolate at that point. Yeah.
You'd have to add the cream and the sugar to it and just bake with it. You can't just sit there and... No. It's fine to shave it and put it over ice cream or something.
Yeah. There you go. There you go. See.
Now see, I'm not a big fan of the German chocolate. You know what I was not a fan of? And I'm... You know, I'm half German.
I mean, my mom was... She was pedigree German. But what I was not a fan of, which is really popular treat in Germany, was Marzipan. Now it looks delicious.
It looks just so scrumptious and sweet and delicious. And then you take a bite of it and it's just a mouthful of disappointment. It's like... Yeah.
You know, just a coconut type of goo. No. No. No.
No. This doesn't work for me. Thanks, Grandma. And you know, it's like, yeah, it's nice table decoration.
I suppose when everybody's sitting around the table eating, you know, look at these fancy little treats. But that's about all they're good for. Don't you? Very lucky.
I'm going to have to look it up now. There's a cookie that it's like a really, like they're really expensive. And they come in all different kinds of colors. And I think it's a French cookie.
It's got a chocolate bottom and some kind of a filling. And I had always wanted to try one of these. And so I did. And it was so...
I was expecting the cookie to be soft. The thing was crunchy. And I'm just like... Seriously?
It's hard to me. This much money for this crap thing has borne us. I mean... I don't know.
Yeah. That'll be in the show notes too. Macaroon. I think...
No. No. Macaroon. No.
You're right. Macaroon. Yeah. That's a thumbs down.
I will have to agree with you on that. It's just, it's toasted yuckness. You know what's so funny? This is reminding me of the show my kids watched.
It was like this challenge on YouTube from this channel that they like to watch. And it was trying foods of the world. And so, you know, they had this one thing from Australia and then this other thing from Germany and this other thing, you know. And it was so funny because we ended up going into a world market.
And they had a bunch of those types of things there. The same ones that they had tried. Right. Right.
We have to try it. And I'm going, oh no. Like there was a Vegemite. I will never try that.
I don't think I can have myself to try that. Yeah. No. It doesn't sound good.
Yeah. So everybody said, I said for fun, make a comment on what is the most exotic thing that you have eaten? I have. Yeah.
I could tell you mine. Okay. My grandmother who took on the Swedish tradition of lootfisk. No.
Lootfisk. Yeah. It's a whitefish. But you soak it in light.
And she, she made it a traditional way. She made it in the bathtub. Well, first off, I'm not eating something that's coming out of the bathtub. But, but she served the lootfisk and none of us had ever eaten it before.
And she had it, you know, and she made it all the time for herself, but she wanted to share it with us. And when I say us, I'm speaking of, you know, my mom, my dad and my brothers and myself. And she had the whole, you know, dining room table, all beautiful and set. And here's this giant whitefish.
And she'd cut it up and served everybody. And we all took one bite of it and just. Awful. Wow.
It's clearly an acquired taste. Right. She ate it up. She's like, Oh, my goodness.
This is one of the best ones I've ever made. I'm like, Oh, that's bad. I could only imagine what the worst one was that you made with really powerful. But here and another brief story was my ex.
Like I have said on a previous shelf, she's Italian. Her grandmother was Sicilian. And she was, she's a pedigree Sicilian. And she came here from Sicily.
And her favorite to serve was octopus. But we're talking the entire octopus. The head, the tentacles, the whole thing. And it was on the silver platter.
And you know, the big bulb is headed, you know, laying there and all the tentacles. And it just kind of looked like something out of HP Lovecraft's book. You know, it was the Kraken on a silver platter. God.
And, you know, she's trying to, no, you eat, you eat. It was good. It was good. And she with her bare hands.
This is no lie with her bare hands. She grabbed that bulbous head and just tore it off and just started slurping it. I'm like, I'm out. I'm done.
I'm out. I'm going down the street. I'm not even hungry. Let alone wanting to eat something.
So, you know, put your comments below about what is the worst nationality, traditional food you have ever eaten that you'll never eat again. For me. Yeah, you go. One of them was the urchin.
And the only reason I didn't like it is because I felt like it was so bad. It was a texture thing. I felt like another tongue. Oh.
It was killing somebody else's face. Oh. Yeah. And then it's...
Oh. Yeah. I never tried it. Is that Asian?
See your channel? It was a piggy restaurant. Yeah. Well, okay.
So, I'd be a Japanese, right? Okay. Yeah. And the other thing, which I actually really liked and I would eat it again is barbecue frog legs.
Oh, I've done the frog legs. And, you know, they're okay. Not bad. I don't want to see the process.
But yeah, no, they're okay. Yeah. And then the fun one was jackalope. It was literally sold as a jackalope.
And half of it, you know, it's a blend of antelope and rabbit. Oh, I just got a... Wait, wait, wait. I just got a friend's cancellation notice from Shannon LaGrow to Jennifer Anne for eating jackalope.
Way to go, Jen. Yeah. Shannon will not be your friend anymore for eating her jackalope. Way to go.
Oh, I love it. I love it. No, it was delicious. Seriously.
Maple syrup. Hey, don't be jealous. I'm not. It's just all part of the witches conversation.
And if it's what it means, this is what it means. So, so be it. That's right. That's how that works.
Yeah. Okay. I'm sure I could come up with a few other things that are undesirable to eat. But those two.
And, and, yeah. Sea urchin. I, I, I heard of that, you know, I know there's traditional, you know, the puffer fish and so on. And they kind of like to live on the edge of toxic animals and try to eat it.
And if it's not prepared properly, you could possibly get sick. If not die from the toxins, which you better trust your chef. I guess. I don't need to eat something like that.
I mean, seriously. No, that's fine. I'll have something that I think is safe and it's called a banana or an apple or something. That's right.
That's right. Although going with the apple. No, no, you have the poison apple from the witch. Oh, yes.
There we go. See, guys. Look at that. Which I'll go back to Adam and Eve and the temptation to eat the apple.
And so, you know, maybe the apple's a little bit more demonic than they're giving a credit for. Yeah, the real problem is apple guys. Seriously. It probably is.
Yeah, it probably is. And, and they, you know, they tell you since the apple seed itself, you shouldn't be eating it because it does contain cyanide. And, you know, even up apple seed. Oh, when you cut them in half.
This is true. This is true. When you, when you, when you cut them. Yes.
I say you cut them in half, but you have to cut them from, from the stem to the, to the core. Or is it from the middle? Yeah. You cut it, you lay it on its side and cut it through the middle and you get the pentagram.
Hmm. The things that we eat and all related back to the witch. Okay. Wow.
How many more days till Halloween? Let's see. It's Tuesday night. We've got another week to go.
We've got another week to go. Halloween. Lortober. Tuesday.
Lortober 31st. Yeah. You've got a special Halloween episode. We do.
So you're going to have to come back to that for sure. It'll be interesting. It's been a really fun month. And then, you know, we're going to have a lot of fun on the Tuesday episode that we do for Halloween.
That's going to be fantastic. And it'll kind of, it'll be, you know, we'll have to do this again next year because I'll miss it. No. We will do this next year.
For those of you that are interested, I put a post on the caravan library of lore, Facebook group page and of the vampire box, which can go to the first $50 patron, if you would like to be our patron. It'd be more than happy to send out this special handcrafted, then the Pyre box. And we'll have other boxes that'll be coming up also. You know, you need to check it out.
Yes, you do need that protection. Maybe I should come up with a witch box too. I don't know. I haven't even thought of that one.
We'll have a little. You know, well, we can have a little, you know, foldable broomstick in there and a couple of things. Cool. Cool little artifacts.
Which helps box. Yeah, there you go. I might even throw a kitchen witch in there. Just to bring you some german good luck in the kitchen so that you don't set up a smoke alarm.
How about it? You know, there's also an alphabet. There's like a glossary that has like all the regular herb names and what they're called like a witch's herb name for it. You could make that be part of the box or it's like, here's Eye of Newton dragon's blood.
Right. Maybe I could come up with the original hallucinogenic witch's brew and you can put it on the end of your broomstick and insert it so that you can fly like a witch on a broom. When I was really researching this, I was like, okay, I read all the, and then I went to another page. It's telling me, yeah, just to verify, I went through five different resources and they're all verifying that same story.
So it wasn't something that was just manufactured that somebody wanted to write about and say, well, maybe it came about. And now there is, you know, scripture from, you know, the medieval period that this is what people would do with the broomstick candle because it was just the perfect tool to insert this hallucinogenic. I'm like, oh boy. It's easier to just make it to you guys.