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Come, walk down the winding path, don't mind the spooks and monsters, they stay hidden within the trees. There are mysteries in this world that you need to know, and paranormal truths that need to be told. Come, step up into the caravan while we share tales of old, as well as new accounts about things you thought. Only existed in your nightmares.
Grab your loved ones, seek shelter, lock your doors, and board up your windows, for this is week 2 of Lord Tober, and the zombie apocalypse. The Pentagon's secret strategy for dealing? Listen now, the Pentagon's secret strategy for dealing with a zombie apocalypse. It is not a joke, it's part of a training exercise.
Ahead, the United States military versus the walking did. Let's get to it. Star Pentagon does have these zombie apocalypse, what to do, in case of. There's also something called the chicken zombies, I was unaware of that, watching these nursery courts, but you know, you cut the head off a chicken, it keeps running around, so I guess that would qualify as a chicken zombie, but it's not?
That's true. You know, every culture does have its own version of a zombie. Do you know that? No.
But, you know, I want to get your opinion. As far as zombie, what is it about, zombie that makes it so popular in this culture, in your opinion? Oh man, you know, I guess I have to say that I'm really fascinated by the fact that zombies have become such a big thing, because it happens to be my least favorite topic. It's, and I'm not really sure why, I guess part of it is because, to me, it's scarier than vampires or werewolves, because it's more mass, you know what I mean?
If that happens, it affects the entire human race, and you're just kind of, you know... That is exactly what my take is on it. I find that great that you said that, because it just kind of verifies my fear of the zombies as well. Let's take a dog man, or a vampire, or Bigfoot.
All these monsters and cryptids, they select their victim. It's usually somebody that there is in a social contact with, or it's a selected group, or an appearance, that there's a familiarity with. Was zombie? They just want to wipe out the entire human race.
It doesn't matter who you are, man, woman or child. They're coming after you to devour you and destroy you, or turn you into part of their culture as well, and continue spreading with monstrous cancer. Right? Well, it really reminds me, so, you know, being germophobic and everything, I don't watch movies like contagion.
And zombies, to me, are exactly that, you know? It's like, what happened on 10 of the apes when that virus just ended up wiping out everybody, and then the apes became, you know? It's so similar to that, that it's just, I don't know. Well, I think that, you know, humanity is, it is right now where we're like living on the edge of total collapse and disaster.
It seems like at every waking moment. And I think that's probably what pushes venues like The Walking Dead into such great popular culture in its ratings, just because of the fact that it's kind of a metaphoric representation of where we feel that we're at, at any given moment, we're all going to fall victim to something like that, and we just put a face on it as a zombie. Right. You know, in 1968, when George Romero directed and created probably the first iconic zombie movie, which was Night of a Living Dead, and of course, I think it added even more of a creep factor done that the entire film was done in black and white.
And the dialogue was very cut and dry, but it certainly showed fear. Right. And it definitely, it definitely put it right in the middle of pop culture. And of course, it took off, you know, as a movie called Classic, even till today, you could still watch a movie and walk away with the same, you know, empty feeling at the end of it, as you did back in 1968 when it first came out.
Right. I don't, here's another really crazy fact that regarding zombie movies, more than half of zombie movies were made right after September 11th of 2001. Really? That's what I've talked about.
More than half of all the movies related to zombies came out right after September 11th. That just seemed a little disturbing to me. I don't know if that's, you know, America's way of hoping to try to do it. There was a time that I remember thinking, and this was way back before any of this, you know, podcasting or before I even though the podcast existed.
I remember thinking to myself, my gosh, all this zombie stuff is all of a sudden, like, nothing. It's everywhere. And that was after I graduated, which was, you know, after 2005. Right.
You bet. That being true. Oh, well, yeah, I was kind of taken back by that statistic. No, yes, there were some of the black and white, you know, Hollywood classic type.
But yeah, it really came to the forefront after September 11th. It might just be a cultural coping mechanism that so many movies, zombie related movies, were created after that. Right. Well, and then when did the Pentagon do their zombie preparedness?
Right. Right. Well, yeah, I mean, we can, you know, talk about that. You know, what the reality of it was is to take a worst case scenario and have a case plan to handle a unrealistic situation.
But it's okay to be prepared for things that you may never expect to have to deal with. And that in itself, that there's a 30 page directive within the Pentagon about zombie apocalypse. Yeah, kind of creepy in a way. But, you know, in doing research with the zombie, the stories actually, and when you start to think about it, it puts the spin of reality into it that actually kind of sets a creep factor that, you know, going way back into history.
And the literature, the Epic of Gilgamesh, Ishtar says, I will rise up the dead and they will eat the living, and the dead will outnumber the living. Now, this is an ancient scroll talking about what sounds very much like the zombie. So how did that all start? And oddly enough, the word zombie itself, it means animated corpse.
In Haitian voodoo language. No way. Yes, that's where it came from. And the Haitian voodoo aspect of a zombie isn't a flesh-eating killing being.
It's just a reanimated corpse that has come back to life. But it doesn't evolve, you know, so much into its behavior. It's just scary within itself. And we have pretty much just adopted that name.
The zombie has the creature that it has become today or morph into as of today. But yeah, that's where it came. It was in western Africa, you know, voodoo religion, and then that adapted into Haiti and, you know, with the practice of voodoo and Haiti. But yeah, that's where the term voodoo actually came from.
And like I said earlier, zombie, it's a worldwide phenomenon that goes back into ancient history. In China, the living dead are called Zhangxi. And it's actually a hungry ghost that comes back to seek vengeance for not being properly buried. Oh my God.
And the Chinese took this very seriously. And they took this very seriously. So the point where the Chinese, and this still even comes up into modern history, when there is a deceased person, they bind them so that they're unable to move once they are buried. Now what caused that fear to begin with?
Now this, you know, this is a zombie ghost that comes back and is seeking vengeance. So there's violence involved. You know what's interesting? Over and correct me or whatever, because I can't remember.
But when you're looking online, there's really super old burial sites that have iron over the coffin. Right, right, yes. But that was for vampires, right? No, it wasn't for zombies.
I believe it was, now you're saying vampires, I thought it was for witches. Oh, wow. And if anybody wants to put a comment in there, yeah, we'll look at it. But now that you do bring that up, it's still the same philosophy.
It's to restrain the dead from walking the earth again. And there has been an overwhelming fear factor to go to that extent to prevent the dead from coming back to life. What caused that fear to begin with? That's scary.
Right. Well, and it's crazy too, because there's so many different forms of the dead coming back. There's a zombie thing with an empire saying it goes, you know, forever. It's really amazing, but so.
Yeah, culturally it is crazy. It is crazy. Did you find any famous cases or any kind of encounters in your research, like historical? Yeah.
Well, yes. I'm jumping off. Sorry, guys. No, we will get to that.
Here's, you know, I will throw a couple more things out at everybody that I found pretty fascinating regarding the zombie. Now, again, I'm using zombie just as a reference term because that's what we refer to it as. In the Arabic world, the zombie is called the ghoul. Oh.
And the ghoul is returned from the dead seeking vengeance and to destroy the living. I was like, okay, well, that explains where the term ghoul comes from and what it actually really is. If anybody could not put a definition to the term ghoul, well, that's working for almost the Arab world and the returning of the dead. And not so much in the ghost form either, but walking, living dead.
It almost sounds like an oxymoron to say, you know, the living dead, but. Right. Mostly though, the ghoul was a woman who led in a moral lifestyle, such as prostitution seriously. Oh, okay.
And, you know, in their literature, the ghoul would scream like a siren, which brings me all the way back to the banshee again. Very similar behavior to how the banshee was. It would scream in a whale and then it would kill you. Wow.
Yeah, there's a couple of similarities here and things in doing my research, you know, in the zombie research that I found really interesting with the ties and connections between just like, you know, discovering that the ghoul was actually an Arabic zombie. Right. Well, yeah, the ghoul would scream out for its victims and out of curiosity and take them down, but I found that too that most of the ghouls in the Arabic world were women. Wow.
And only living in an immoral lifestyle now their immoral lifestyle was by their cultural practices. Not to say that here, those immoral practices would be the classified the same way here as it is in here. Because, you know, there's serious oppression of women over in the Middle East and we're not going to get political, but I think that's why it may have been used as a fear factor that their women there should lead a very moral lifestyle so that they do not come back as a ghoul. And it may have been done as a scare tactic.
That I couldn't really remember it that much, but it could have been done. What you're saying is you're going to come back as a ghoul, right? Yes. And follow you.
No, I don't think so. What will lead that up to you when you're in your moral lifestyle? Thanks. I appreciate the rating.
Thank you so much. I'm really happy to be here in the comments. Thanks, Tony. Thank you.
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Bye. Zombi actually actually actually came from Scandinavian Vikings Called the Draugr. It was an undead Viking Yes, the Draugr. Well some of these names will sound familiar Oh, and this Viking zombie could only be destroyed if you could trick it back down into the ground again Otherwise you were unable to destroy the zombie So you had to manipulate it somehow in order to get it back into the ground again And it is the most savage and destructive zombie of all of them The question is how would it come out of the ground then in the first place?
And the Draugr is actually happy to be what it is. Yes, it's happy to be what it is. It's not torment It knows what it is and it's and it's comfortable with what it is in its destruction In other cultures, it's torment and Seeking revenge through torment, but this thing no it's fine being the undead and doing its savage doings upon the living on So okay, that definitely qualifies as you know, most fearsome. Oh, yeah So the Draugr you've heard that name before haven't you?
It's weird because I have I know that I have but the thing is is I I've never heard of it like I've never heard of anything like what you just described, but I Was um, yeah, that was actually eighth eighth century Scandinavian lore. Really? Well, but that goes back like ways right in England In the 12th century the fearsome zombie is known as the Revenant Now, there's another name you've probably heard of before but the right wasn't that a movie? Yes.
Yes The name you are referring. Yes, the name reverend is actually old English Zombie returning of the dead and William of Newburg who was a? Christian friar, I believe he was actually one of the noted very first zombie hunters because he wrote about he wrote about this and There were so many people in torment of the Revenant that were claiming that you know There was great disturbances, and he actually dedicated his life to hunting down the Revenant and destroying it So there you go It's crazy because the more you go and the more around the world we travel the more real it can become Oh, yes That's what I'm saying I think that's what makes this entire subject matter other than just the term zombie and and dead people coming after you to each You and that's the entire subject matter. No, there is thick history behind all of this And and what is it that actually initiated all this fear?
Unless something happened at some point that changed Culturally with with humans as to how we deal with the behavior of our dead Fascinating because it definitely you know when we get to it. It makes it easier to Go into my strange story Well, we will yeah, no, we definitely will you know, okay, so Along those lines of saying you know the thick history of the zombie even in Christianity When they bury the dead in a coffin, they bolt the coffin shut Well, they don't bolt the coffin shut to prevent grave robbers because a grave robber is on the outside of the casket and can remove the bolts It was done to keep what was in the casket in the casket And that is still a common practice in Christianity Now do people ask that question, you know more today. Hey, why is this both to close and secured? Well, it's for secure reasons But it actually started to prevent the dead from rising from the earth and walking the face of the earth again Well that overwhelming fear it had to have come from somewhere So are we gonna say you know when zombies real though?
Maybe they were at one time and maybe it will be again Many of them were actually buried you get this is kind of creeping out There were ancient burial sites and the practice was not into modern history, but there were you know ancient burial sites up until I believe like you know close to the 20th century Where the dead were buried with a rock wedged in their mouth So if they could not come back and bite the living they would either use a rock or a brick and wedge it into the mouth and So with all the binding in China and bolting of the caskets close them putting a rock in your Yeah, it's there's a lot there. There's a lot there of fear, you know in Norse tradition When a person was deceased any residents, which happened a lot because you know you took care of your relatives or someone And they passed away in the home It's it's traditional to carry the body out of the home feet first and that whole tradition started Get this creeping out the whole tradition behind that was so that the corpse could not look back to see the entrance of the home and recognize it to come back And destroy those that lived in the home They prevented it from being able to see and and generally when they carry the body off He first they would board up that door so that oh my god It's a way over the top fear factor of we do not want the dead to come back and again Where does it all stem from? Did zombies walk the face of the earth at some point to actually have a traditional practice to carry the dead out of the home He first so that they could not recognize where they were leaving and come back You know, it's fascinating because I remember being a kid And I would go into these different antique shelves with my dad's and There was you know, there's a scary story science fiction type books aliens and vampires and all the stuff I remember I was always into that stuff and I can't remember who said it. I think I was with my dad or The guy that was running the shop, which we knew but they said something along the lines that everything comes from somewhere Mm-hmm something, you know, it's a brain of truth fired, but yeah And so it is I mean because I'll be honest.
I haven't known really any history on zombie stuff I didn't know that there was all these different practices right and then you know, especially with my experience I I've always felt really alone in that but now hearing all of this I you know, it's Well, it probably shed a little different way down it, right? Did you want to share your story? I Can I mean what we could always wait if that needs to go later with some other no, no, that's fine No, we can put it in here because we can sum it up with a couple of interesting points, but go for it Okay, well, it's I I haven't spoken to anybody else that has ever really like well Yeah, it's just it's a strange story. I was in a restaurant and Literally, I just drove it in driven in to Use the bathroom and I was just gonna go home.
It was faster restaurant and I Everything was normal. I went in there and then when I came out of the bathroom I happened to just look up and there was this may hunt there was standing like I don't know a couple feet in front of me foot or two in front of me real close and he was I mean he was as real as you and me and I feel so oh my gosh It's weird to don't talk about it a lot It His face was as dead as could be that this is like this was not around Halloween. This was not a costume This was not I mean, this is better than Hollywood makeup because it wasn't just the It wasn't just the face but it was its behavior called in it and it was also the energy that I felt Standing in front of this person or thing It was like a an actual zombie standing in front of me. I mean I Remember I just froze and I Didn't really breathe and I don't even remember how I got around him and I bolted for the door once I was past him I ran I got my car and I sped off to my house and My husband was there and I was hysterical.
I mean I was almost hyperventilating. I was crying so hard. I Was a wreck. I looked like a lunatic and that's the reason I don't talk about it because I feel like I sound like a lunatic What you're not But you're not laughing at it for that reason Only because only because I shared a similar story with you to somebody that I had a relationship with that had a very similar encounter And I think once it gets talked about I'm be pretty certain that a Little bit more and more people might be willing to talk about it, you know, but She saw what she just referred to as a zombie and it scared the daylights out of her And she did the same thing.
She did not stick around and it happened to be in a restaurant to a fast food restaurant And she left and she came home and I could tell she was so upset by something because she did not look good And she told me exactly, you know what she experienced and I couldn't really touch the context of what it was that she was explaining to me because It just seems so far out there. It's not that I didn't believe her I totally believed exactly the experience that she had but to actually understand the gravity of that experience and then for you to tell me That story it's it's a phenomena. I'm sure it happens Clearly it happens. I'm not doubting that at all.
I'm I'm saying that maybe they'll be more people to come forth with an experience of seeing What they referred to as a zombie Right, well, you said you have that other experience, right? Yes, yes in the resale store and You know, she heard there were brass bells on the back door of the store Most her business or you know resale business There were brass bells that hung on the back door So you could hear somebody coming in and out through the back door because most people use the back door as the front entrance to come Into the resale shop and because the front door was actually on the street side and there's a lot of traffic So in the parking was in the back anyway So people would come through and those bells would ring and I was not there at the time But she did share this with me again, and she was mortified by the event But she was it was a long corridor probably say maybe 20 25 foot long hallway where the back door was and there were pictures On both sides of the walls of that hallway and then in 25 feet of that long hallway takes you into the store itself So both sides of the walls of the hallway where it was used as the art gallery and all the pictures would hang on both sides and you could glance well she heard the bells ring and From the counter she could kind of lean over and look down the hallway and she saw this Morbid Man that looked dead She said he she said he had his face was like tore up with the flesh bleeding flesh and just looked dead And was walking down the hallway and she freaked, you know, she panicked understandably she panicked and as it came through the hallway There's a wall that you would have to walk around before you'd come up to the counter where she was at It was kind of like a window at at the counter It's a little hard to describe but there was a cutout in the wall where you could look down that hallway And then on the other side of the small wall, which was like a partition But anyway, he came around the partition but wasn't there She never saw him again after that but had enough of an encounter to see this thing walking down the hall that was clearly and Again, she used the term zombie Just and she probably used it for my benefit so that I could understand what it was that she was looking at But she was mortified because she heard the bells ring so something physical made that happen and For her to see that walking down the hallway, and I do remember her saying she thought maybe he was in a bad car wreck or something And was dazed and confused But she was still terrified Because of the slow approach down the hallway and then not to see him on the other side of the wall and wasn't in the store at all You know, she knew she had this zombie encounter And it's been hard for me to not find any current encounters like you can't just Google it. Nothing's going to come up Because I thought it's a very minimum like When I when we were doing me intoxicated times over episodes And I had mentioned that I had taken a photograph and there was a man sitting on the stairs and his face was like a Dead skeleton face, you know, right? There isn't even Encounters that I would be able to find where it was a You through which apparition type of a ghost that looked like a zombie There's like no Corpsey ghosts, you know, I mean like it sounds dumb, but it it just it made me feel really isolated Right, and so I do hope that there's somebody out there that is like no I've experienced that too I mean, you know, I tried after him in our community and I Know luck, so maybe it's just Strange of a thing to talk about, you know Well, the only common The only common thread I was able to link between you and her having that experience is that you're both Reiki Masters that's really the and both female to both Reiki Masters and Well, I don't put it in the classification of weird.
I put it in the classification of move There's a common thread here. Maybe that will link us to something a little bit further into being able or having that Unfortunate ability to have had that encounter but only because you know being a Reiki Master you're in touch with things that The everyday Joe is not in touch with so that might be the common thread that links those two things together That would be really interesting. I've never been on a name. All right.
Well, I don't know practicing The living dead it's It had to have come from somewhere again I keep going back to that it all this had to have come from somewhere you saw what you saw in a physical sense She saw what she saw in a physical sense It was there it was real you could touch it and you get the sense of dread or negative energy and you fled Later, you know, just out and gone and for the behavior for you to do that was the same behavior that she did it was And right Which you know kind of brought me back to the you know the thinking and I know I might be crossing the line here And I apologize ahead of time to and listener that may think I'm and I'm not I'm only bringing this up strictly from a topic point of view it The Christians practice the resurrection of Jesus Christ It's the same scenario Jesus passed away or was crucified. He dies and he resurrects from the dead That is one of your very first living dead stories biblical now, right? Exactly, but I'll put Jesus Christ in the time the frame of he's the anti-zombie He's he's going to guide those that pass into the proper passage to the afterlife So but is it not fascinating that you know the holy scripture actually speaks of the rising dead Right Well, look at look at the mass of people in that religion or practices Christianity That's the cornerstone of that religion as a crisis risen and he's gone to heaven and he will bring you a board if you're a good soul So I guess he is the anti-zombie I don't I just did I just did not want to offend anybody. I'm just bringing it up in case Or for those that just never really put it into that Dear listeners most of the things that's on this show are not the opinions of your host But rather you know like I wrote in the blog that published a couple like Friday or something We do have an active blog I try to post every Friday if you look on the website I said in there that I like to explore the what if I'm never trying I never try to persuade anybody to think the way that I do or This way or that way.
I really really love to play with what if scenarios It's just fascinating to me. You know, it's the whole you know me always asking everybody that we're we'll say an pirate question or You know what just really happened or what would you do if you found out this was real, you know, so We we like to share what we find and we like to play what if so People please don't be offended by anything Of course not it's the what if and that's why I kind of started that whole statement out anyway with no personal disclaimer Because I have my beliefs in Christianity and we're all entitled to those beliefs meaning no disrespect to whatsoever. It's just talking of Resurrecting the dead again, and here it is in the only scripture. So I Did it's a what if exactly so right to move off of that So so here you have the anti-zombie and he's going to guide you into the passage to not being a flesh-eating zombie However, the ultimate sin to bring back the dead is to practice cannibalism Those that eight other humans were due to rise from the dead it continued to dine on the living Eating another human can result in a symptom called Wendigo psychosis, which as we know came from Native American lore the need to keep eating the flesh of other humans And of course, you know There's so many different beliefs on that though Mm-hmm, but but the term Wendigo psychosis is those that have dined on Human flesh in the term of cannibalism and continue that practice I know we discussed the Wendigo and that's the birth of the Wendigo and those that have actually seen And had an encounter with the Wendigo that it is its cornerstone for its existence is based around cannibalism And it's pretty much the same thing that the zombies do They look out of vengeance to take away from the living what they don't have it's kind of going back to the old torment things Destroy the living because they don't have the soul that the living does Just destroy it like a cancer and wipe out its host which in terms they wipe themselves out it once they wipe out all the living Seems to be a pointless Attribute, you know to destroy the host, but it does happen and it's Jeffrey Dahmer And those classified him with having that Wendigo psychosis.
He had to have the need to eat flesh It's as crazy as it is. No, he wasn't dead But it was it's considered the ultimate sin to bring you back from the dead Maybe he should have been cremated. I don't know if he was cremated or not. It's quite possible The rest of the fire is breeding conjuring zombie.
Yeah, well You know though Cannibalism is still practiced today in rural areas of Papua New Guinea Where were those natives of Papua New Guinea will eat the brains of their loved ones once they pass away in their belief to Continue the genetic chain Answer the family. However, that had its own bad side effect In 1950 there was an outbreak of what's called Curoo, it's a contagion that causes foamy pockets in the brain once you consume the brain it causes foamy pockets in your own brain and Those afflicted behaved like zombies. They couldn't speak. They couldn't walk properly.
They were lethargic and That's kind of how that culture really started. You consumed flesh and then you became this zombie itself Preons are the contagion that causes this in humans now a pre-on is It's not a it's like a viral contagion. I know this is your favorite subject of all time, but But but the guru that the cause this room consuming brains is very similar pre-on To the mad cow disease It has the same effect on humans as mad cow disease so Our zombies real well you get this pre-on contagion it could turn your behavior into zombies I'm not gonna say that your behavior wouldn't want to bite or have kind of like a rabies type of effect where it's you know A violent turn of behavior, but it could happen you could have that contagion spread in a small populace of people and Now their behavior is completely lethargic like I said and may just violently react Around them with other people and bite and tear them apart. Who knows?
Now You want to talk about zombies being real? Well, there it is. There's your proof. It's happened It happened and knock on wood that it never happens again that we can keep the pre-ons in this contagion under control And we need to fund, you know, all the disease centers is quickly it was possible to prevent that from happening People can act like zombies from consuming other living beings Whether it be be for lamb or whatever you could get the mad cow contagion or Like in Papua New Guinea.
They got this contagion from consuming the brains of their loved ones that have passed on out of tradition So it can happen So maybe that's how this whole zombie thing started to begin with back in the ancient world when Ishmael wrote about the fact that you know, I will rise and consume the dead and until all the living are dead My doors are bolted shut and windows are boarded up. We will we are zombie protected here Unfortunately garlic does not work on a zombie really the only way to destroy a zombie is to either decapitated or Take out his own fire You could set it on fire. Yes, you know, I guess you just watch watch the walking dead You know, it's a baseball bat with nails. You have a favorite zombie movie No, I am really not a zombie fan.
I I don't know. Maybe it's a fear Maybe it's a fear that keeps me from ever watching a zombie movie or anything I mean I've seen there was one zombie show that I did watch and it was a simple getting scratched by one I mean, I felt like it, you know, it's just like sneezing mixed with something in a grocery aisle during flusions, right, right? What's your hands people please? Well, I started, you know thinking about it just went When I thought of asking you that question, you know, do you have a favorite zombie movie and then I started thinking of all the zombie movies I've seen and you know, I have something I really liked and enjoyed World War Z was okay, but the book was so much better because the book was written from a journalist Perspective as to what he was entering into his journals and that's what the book was about The movie took it down an entirely different avenue and it just pretty much just used the name of the book It didn't even follow what the book was about but for those that ever had World War Z I thought it was much better.
The movie was okay. I found a lot of holes in the movie that yeah, okay Even if that was real that really isn't going to happen, but whatever I think one of my favorites besides zombie land. I mean zombie land put it into a you know a comical spin And I and I like those type of movies too. I do like, you know, I don't know if you have the privilege of seeing zombie land with what he else and bill Murray Um, it was gory.
It was graphic, but it had the humor spent to it Shawn at a dead is probably one of my favorites and again, it was a comical spin on The zombie apocalypse because I would probably behave Like that in their movie. I just be throwing record albums at the thing Whatever you had to throw at it. Just whip it at it, you know, kill it, you know, and then lock yourself Lock in your lock in yourself into the local pub. Well, what better place to lock yourself in but no just within recent Hollywood movies.
I have to say probably my favorite was called the crazies Because that followed along and the crazies was good Um because it kind of followed along with a contagion and so you probably will not want to watch it But if that's where it came from was, you know, it was a contained Virus and course it got out into the community and it started affecting people because it infected the water and only people started losing it and Became zombies. It didn't necessarily rise from the dead. They consumed it and became zombie So a little different spin on the whole thing. You didn't have to really die first But the only way to end of that contagion was and I hope I don't ruin it for anybody because the crazies has been out for a long Spoiler alert exactly For like seven years or whatever, but you know, really the only way to end it was by nuclear Like it out My sister and I we were talking and we were talking about the The what if of you know, they pushed the flu vaccine on everybody And that imagine if there was something within the flu vaccine that you know, but the government gave out Just that did whatever to you what it tracked you what it turned you into a zombie.
What are you know what I mean? Right. Yeah, you have to put a lot of trust especially in your your young children Putting your trust into Medical sciences that the vaccination is exactly what the vaccination is Not to down that road for the vaxxers my backpackers. I'm just saying imagine if you became a zombie from the flu Right, right, right.
No You know what Jen you and your sister then need to get your pens together and start writing a new zombie movie And that'll be how it happens. The new zombie apocalypse is actually through vaccinations Through the yearly flu shot Doesn't matter if you get a shot or the right the Do they do one that you can breathe in through your nose? I hope that they I have a shot Right. Well, then you won't be a zombie.
They're good. I have not gotten the flu shot either You know, and maybe when I'm old and in a walker and Maybe then I don't know but I know it's not a deadly disease as long as you're healthy You'll build a much better immune system to the flu if you actually catch it and deal with it and and you're good to go for a couple of years And you'll feel like a dead zombie that doesn't want to get up and do anything I just want to let go and have soup and watch TV That's my kind of zombie to deal with Yes, there you go There's a lot to be said for the world of zombies There really is because there's a lot more information other than just creatures and the night that want to come and bite you and eat you There's there's so much history behind all of this but um You know, and that's the thing that I like so much about this type of doing this type of like a podcast Is that you know, you can sit there and you could dive into the Hollywood side of things You know for all these subjects ghost vampires or whatever But it's kind of like the unsolved mysteries, you know when I was growing up it wasn't you know Uh like soft thing and children of the corner and that stuff didn't scare me God didn't scare me. It was unsolved mysteries. It's the real stuff Yeah, it's just like oh my god.
And so you know Oh, I do know and I totally agree with you I mean, I you know growing up as a kid and you'd watch the monster movies and so on Okay. Yeah, they're suspenseful, but you know, it didn't terrify you. I got terrified when you know now I'm a kid. I'm a young kid and thanks mom for taking me to go see jaws That's a reality.
There's this great ways chart. I didn't even want to go into a swimming pool And that is the and okay Let me just share a quick story with you when jaws came out. I'm a young kid Mom and dad take me to go see jaws. I'm terrified I am completely terrified and what does dad do after the movie?
Let's go to the red lobster and now dinner. Are you effing kidding me? There's there's all the Fish on the walls and marlins and and no because I'm expecting the shark to come bursting through the wall at any second I was terrified. I had nightmares Not good.
Not good. So congratulations to Stephen King for really messing me up in the head when I was a young kid But because it was based in reality though Sharks, we all know sharks are monsters. They do exist. You know, they're they're real.
They're tangible You can go to the aquarium and see them swimming in a tank I have yet to see a werewolf at you know the Brookfield Zoo Okay, you know, there's a sense of reality and a sense of Hollywood fantasy So I completely get what you're saying with yeah when there's when there's a spin of reality Like on south mysteries because Something created does something there have there's some sort of nugget of truth behind them Well, let me know about why Or where or you know, there's no way to prevent it. It's just like, you know from happening again and so right Yeah, it's really always stuck with me and it was so funny because the Just the music and his voice was it became so scary in itself, you know Um People don't because we're about to watch on Right. Oh my gosh. Oh Um One quick thing.
I don't know so many left or anything, but we should tell people maybe give them a sneak You know people Go right ahead Jennifer you show up We'll have more listeners than we know what to do with No, no, we lose all of our listeners Um, no, I was gonna say um, you should tell everybody what the next episode is going to be about We've been really enjoying having all these Tuesdays in october, so that way we can celebrate halloween all month long All month long trying to cover all of the favorite topics during halloween time Um, I'm really excited for the halloween episode as well. That's gonna be a party So you guys you know, I'm giving you an invitation ahead of time big parties We're gonna have a lot of fun If you haven't listened to very many make sure that that's definitely one that you show up for um So yeah, what's the next episode gonna be though Well, don't you have a calendar in front of you? I have my coffee and my phone We have our next our next three will be vampires, which is in halloween Now we have a special guest What we have a special guest that was excited to do the vampires episode with us So we will be posting that and I'm sure you probably all know who are special guests will be but She was pretty excited. I know it.
Yeah, so that's the secret from In that vampire is definitely my favorite topic And you go between the two of you I'm just gonna unplug and i'll go watch tv while the two of you go at the vampire thing Right and and those are you that if you were actually given the choice to be a vampire If you would actually, you know, do it definitely show up for the show. You'll want to be there Exactly which now Yeah, you were you did ask that question and I believe I answered it Nope And I have a couple of good points that you can kick around until we do the vampire episode. How about that? I don't understand how the vampire works.
I don't get it. Nobody's ever answered that question So I start researching it and yet you can't find that no you can't because I can't even find the answer to it How does the I just I just don't there's something scientifically and physically wrong about what the vampire does So we'll discuss that Well, we'll let our special guest and you just Go at it. Yeah, you know, okay. Thank you everybody for joining us for this a zombie Episode like listen next Tuesday as lord tober continues until then we'll talk soon.
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