Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Hailey. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. Hello. Can you believe I came back after last week?
Yeah. I mean, I'm in your house. So we believe you came back after last week. There's a lot of talk about nothing.
Oh my gosh. And you know what we're going to do in our future lives. So towards kind of the end of, you know, our episode last week, we were in a conversation texting my significant other. And so the last thing, you know, we'd send out was about Holly's son.
He was a priest in the nunnery. Because he will be celibate. There's, you know, no height requirements. No, only a heart for the Lord.
Because he has required. So the last thing that he said was after we had, you know, cut for that episode. So didn't go back. He said, I hope heart for the Lord is not meant in a sacrifice way.
No, he's going to keep it. He's going to keep it. And then also he said he did not have not seen Sister Act. I bothered.
And I said, you have so much to learn. And he said, and yes, you'll have to teach me. I'm like a sponge for knowledge. I think that Booby Goldberg is where you're going to gain that knowledge that he's craving.
You know, it's somewhere to start. Well, I don't know if that'll bring him closer to the Lord. I don't know if that's my intention. What's this direct?
But the music is fantastic. The music is stuck in my head. So it's good. I mean, yeah.
Oh, and wouldn't my son look so stinking cute? Is it a priest? Yeah, with a collar? Yeah, adorable.
Sure. I'm thinking like the big crucifix. So the Catholic church that my aunt goes to, there is a priest there who when my son was really little looked very similar. And so my aunt used to laugh all the time and say, Holly, tell us the truth is, you know, father, whatever his name is, your son's dad.
And I said, no, I said of the mailman that was the priest. Yeah, I was like, I think I would have known if I had hooked up with a priest. But I will say, years before that, in a rummage sale, he came up to my table and he bought albums from me that were ACDC. I was like, oh, I love highway to hell.
And I was like, Father, and he just looked at me and he was like, I love all the rock stuff. I was like, he was like, I just love it. And I was like, oh my God, I feel I feel so many things. I don't know.
And then he had kind of snapped out of it when he was like, how much? You know, I do. But yeah, they really did things. They were like, I don't know.
He kind of looks like a man as my son got older, you know, they were like, okay, he doesn't look like him. I was like, no, he looks like me. And he looks like me. And he should, we're gonna be on Maury Povich.
Oh my God. Who's the father? The priest? Or the, not Leo.
He looks, my son. Looks just like his dad. Yeah, he does. Acts like me.
Looks just like his dad. Just like his dad. Oh, there's no, there's not a lot of, there's no question. No, no question at all.
No, but that is really funny. Yeah. So he could be a little priest. He could be a spring break.
How did that go for you? You know, what did you do? What did you miss me? I didn't miss you.
You didn't. I'm sorry. Okay. I didn't get any drum techs.
No, took a family trip to the Outer Banks, yeah, up in North Carolina. And you know, it's great. Check out some more seashells. I know that you think I did.
That is my thing. It was a good dog. So that was fun. A lot of sand.
Stating a pretty nice house. Yeah. So you can get them real cheap on the off-season. Nice.
But yeah, good family trip. Glad to be back. Did you get a sunburn? You don't look sunburned.
No, safety first. I will wear sunscreen. It was cold. Yeah.
It's colder there than in the mountains, which I think was the wind and you know, all that. But I will wear sunscreen out on the beach anytime there. I will wear sunscreen at night. My daily moisturizer has like 30, that's the same.
So I just make sure that, you know, that skin cancer is real. It is real. And I'm very pale. I say.
So that is necessary. Yes. But yeah, and I just bought for that trip, actually a different type of sunscreen that's 50 for like made by the same like company I get face lotion from, but it's 50 SPF. Good face.
Do you set a fill? Oh, a servey. Oh, like that. No, I'm just set a fill girl.
See to fill. Have you ever noticed it? Yeah. Yeah.
To me, there's my vote. But yeah. Yeah. So they say they say anything over is at 30 or 50 really doesn't do as much.
I think it's 50. Yeah. But I can definitely tell a difference with my 30 and 50. Oh, for sure.
But I was wondering like, do they have a 1200 on the market price? Right. I will purchase it. My brother wears 70 most of the time.
Yeah. Because he he will burn just thinking about the sun. Same. I will actually tan a little bit.
But my poor brother does not. I don't either. Actually, we were sitting out the other day having coffee and donuts with some colleagues and the sun came out and they were like, oh, finally the sun, it just feels so good. And I was like, I feel it beat.
Oh my god. And they're like, oh my gosh, you're like my shoulder was revealed a little bit. And they were like, your shoulders already kind of getting right. I was like, I must go indoors.
I do not have my SPF 1200. I know. It's like, I love being outside in the summer and like being in the heat and that kind of thing. But I have to be under shade.
Like, yeah, I'm one of those like, you see the the memes or whatever of like your pale friend at the beach. And you'll see like the beautiful tan friend. This is laying in the sun and everything. And then me just huddled into the umbrella with like a towel over my head.
That's my book, like a little troll. A grim one. I feel the same way. I spend the majority of my time under an umbrella.
Yeah. I feel like I need to be in a little box. Just put me in like a box. Lots and lots of trees.
Yeah. Yeah. That's how it works for me. Meanwhile, because my son looks like we all in some tan.
Oh, like beautiful, like amazing. I know. Makes so jealous. Whatever.
Not me. Not me. What would you not hurry this one? So we're gonna talk about a real bad dude.
A named Melvin David Reese. Why do all these guys have like three names? Three names and like hi, Melvin. Melvin.
Like, what? That sounds like somebody like, kind of nerdy. Well, and I don't know if it's Reese or I don't know what else it would be. It's R E S.
Yes. Yes. Reese. I'm going Reese.
Yeah. Okay. So we're gonna talk about Reese because he killed a lot of people. Okay.
So we're going to the majority of our story happens in the 50s and 60s. Okay. But we're gonna kind of get some early life, which is not a whole lot. We'll get into it.
Okay. So very little is known about Reese's childhood and upbringing. And some rumors suggest he was born in the UK, but then was disowned and sent away to live in America at a very young age. It feels like something that would have happened in the 1600s.
It does, however, we are in like the 1950s. You are off to the Americas. You're not going to the colony. Right.
Like dying. Yeah. Wow. So yeah, don't know a whole lot about early life.
Okay. He attended Edwards Military Institute in Salem,sburg, North Carolina, and the Woodward School for Boys in Washington, D.C. Before graduating from Hyatt'sville High School in Maryland. So abouts a little bit.
Was the school for boys like a reform school? I don't know. I know. I asked the questions.
But I'm gonna say maybe. Okay. I'm just curious. That feels like a solid answer.
He entered the Army in October of 1946 and served as a military musician. Yes. I did not know what was a fan. They had a band.
But that was a fan. Yes. The military had a band. Yeah.
So he was a musician. He served in Europe until his discharge in 1953. After returning to the US, Reese attended the University of Maryland in College Park, just outside Washington, D.C. Classmates at UMD would later recall Reese being a talented musician showing skills with a saxophone, piano, and clarinet.
Reese dropped out of UMD before he graduated to pursue a musical career. He traveled around the D.C. area playing at local jazz clubs. Wow.
Just kind of cool. That is cool. You know, I almost applied to University of Maryland for microhead school. Really?
Yep. Did you play an instrument? I did not. I didn't get it.
Yeah. I never even finished application. It's because it says you must play an instrument. I got the recorder from the fourth grade.
She can play hot cross-buns. Sure could. Or green sleeves. I do a man hand bell.
Whoa. Yeah. You watch out. It's pretty solid.
But you didn't feel that that qualified. I did it. I was a little rusty on the handbell, so I felt like that just wasn't for me. You're out.
I was out. Okay. All right. Let's talk about murder.
Great. Let's hope you're out of that too. Yeah. Okay.
So we're going to kind of go through each of the murders that Reese is kind of connected to. Yeah. Yeah. However, before we get into that, let's talk about who was married to.
Let's do it. In July of 1954, he married a fellow UMB student, Edelaine Rushmanoff. Okay. Their marriage lasted five years and the couple had a son named Philip.
In 1955, Reese was arrested on charges of assaulting an unidentified 36-year-old woman. He had tried to force her into his car, but she escaped. The victim however did not press charges and the case against Reese was dropped. By 1959, Reese was living in Hyattville, Maryland with actress and topless dancer, Pat Varington, who was later identified in press reports as his wife.
The couple eventually moved to West Memphis, Arkansas, where Reese had taken a temporary job in a piano shop. And it was in West Memphis where Reese was apprehended on June 24th of 1960. So they found him. They got him.
They got him. Yeah. And then we're going to talk about now we're going to get into the murders. We'll see that.
I want to skip that part because that felt important. Okay. Topless Dancer really felt like we needed to bring that in. The career that you hadn't sought out yet.
It isn't. But I feel like that takes some guts. That takes a lot. That takes skill and skill.
You know, we're talking about pole. I don't know. I think you can just. I think that's that's Sam's pole.
Well, I mean, I'm sure if you wanted to, you could pull add something to it. But yeah, I mean, I'd probably slap myself in the face with my own tatas, right? I mean, you know, when they put the like the little tassels on, I love that spin them around. That's that's a skill set to get them going in the same motion at the same time.
Yeah. How cool. I was a burlesque. It is.
It is. Yeah. I have a girl that I grew up with who we did since she did. She has burlesque dancing now.
Really? Wow. It's pretty good thinking like if you want to go cheapy just getting those like graduation tassels. Yeah.
Yeah. And just like maybe taping them around your nips or if you've got a nipple ring, you can just hook them on 100%. I don't have one of those, but well, bandy's dream. I imagine you show up.
Oh my God. Oh, good. If you just make a comment about Oh, yeah. You know, I was I was working last weekend and my my graduation tassel got, you know, pulled on my nipple ring again.
What a wildlife. He would say. I'm gonna call Holly and tell her that a weird woman is here and that she should not let her in the house. Do you need me to come with you?
Like, is it right? No, no, it's not. Okay. They're tassels.
Like, bad skill. Yeah, it is. For sure. Okay.
Let's talk about murder now. Yes. No, we're getting worse. Let's try to do that.
Obviously. Take one. All right. We're talking first about Margaret Harold on June 26th of 1957, Margaret Harold and her boyfriend, a US Army Sergeant, who was on week and leave, which I like near Annapolis, Maryland, when Reese driving his green Chrysler, forced them off the road after exiting the vehicle, Reese gestured at the couple to roll down their car window displaying a nickel plated 38 revolver.
After being refused to man's for cigarettes and money and angered Reese shot Harold point blank in the face. Oh my gosh. The horrified soldier fled the scene and ran across several rural fields before reaching a farmhouse where he called the police. As a soldier was being picked up at the farmhouse, other officers arrived at the crime scene where they found that Reese had removed the deceased Harold's clothing and has sexually assaulted her after she'd been shot.
Upon searching the area for the then unidentified Reese authorities came across an abandoned cinder block constructed building, noticing a basement window that had been broken into. Inside, a investigator discovered a collection of violent pornographic images and autopsy photos of female corpses taped all over the walls. They also discovered a yearbook photo of Wanda Tipton who was a 1945 graduate at UMD, police managed to contact and questioned Tipton who denied knowing a tall dark-haired man described by the soldier as Harold's killer. Since there were very few leads and since forensic evidence was pretty primitive in 1957, Harold's murder became a cold case until Reese killed again two years later.
So just to go back a little bit, was he in Finnek Rifelia? Seems like it. Because she was deceased. She was deceased.
Definitely at the time when he was assaulted her. And had these photos, which I assume were his. Right. You know.
What a creep. Oh yeah. That's like something straight out of a like horror movie. The layer.
Yeah. Kind of thing. Okay. Okay.
Sorry. No. Good thoughts there. Okay.
No. No. No. No.
That's not bad. Okay. All right. So we're going to talk about the next murders he committed, which were the Jackson family.
He took a whole family out and talk about it. Yeah. Geez. On January 11th of 1959, the Jackson family, which consisted of Carol Jackson and his wife Mildred, 18 month old Janet and a five year old Susan disappeared after visiting relatives in the Apple Grove area of Maryland.
The Jackson's were by all accounts a normal family who had no known enemies, making their disappearance very confusing. A female relative of the Jackson's who was also driving home from the same Apple Grove reunion came across Carol Jackson's abandoned car on the side of the road. The relative called the police who inspected the car and found no indications of any struggle. A massive search effort was called to locate the missing family, but it was unsuccessful.
That's like the scariest thing in the world to me. Like to come across your own family's car and that they're just nowhere and they're just gone. Yeah. Well, like no sign of them.
I know you. Your first thought would be alien abduction. Absolutely. Yeah.
Absolutely. That's but like that's terrifying. Oh, and to be the one, you know, like, I mean, it's one thing some stranger is like, hey, there's some car here. But like you're like, are driving long and you're like, oh my god, it's just my relatives car.
You're thinking of me. They broke down whatever he's going over and they're just and all of them. All of them are gone. Yeah.
Move into your like, what? Yeah. Like Chelsea. Yeah.
Okay. Almost two months later on March 4th, two men that were gathering brush near Fredericksburg discovered the decomposing body of Carol Jackson in a ditch. He had been shot in the back of the head. His hands were also tied behind his back.
Upon recovering the body, police discovered that Carol had been dumped over the body of 18 month old Janet. It was later determined the child had been dumped alive in the ditch before her father and had suffocated under the weight of his body. Oh my god. Yeah.
So through the child in the ditch and then him on top of it. This was so needless. I mean, let the child go. Right.
Gee. Like even if, you know, this isn't 18 month old, what are they going to say? Yeah. You know, like, yeah.
Even if you even if you did, like put them in the ditch, right? Right. Right. There's so many, there's so many other things.
Like this was just very awful. Okay. On March 21st, the bodies of Mildred and Susan Jackson were discovered in a forest near Annapolis showing signs of torture and pre-mortem sexual assault. Okay.
So this time before they were kids, but the one little girl was five, right? Yeah. Like she was five. Okay.
So investigation and a man hunt ensues to figure out what's happened here. Right. So soon after this appearance, a local couple came forward to report that they had a frightening experience with a tall, dark-haired man that same afternoon. The man had driven behind and around them in a blue, older model Chevrolet, flashing his headlights and forcing them off the road.
This is something that like terrifies me. And like, I'm very aware when I'm driving, because I'm so afraid of like somebody following me or like trying to run me off the road or anything like that. So like I'm just very like aware of my surroundings. And like I've done the thing where like I'll pull out of the parking lot and the car will be behind me.
And it just so happens we're going the same direction or whatever. But like I'll drive past my house and like lose around or something. And like it's never been a thing. But like what if it was?
And I had to tell myself, like, you live in a gated community. Right. But I'm also like, oh my gosh, what if? And it's like, oh, the neighbor's friend is visiting.
You know, like, but it's like, and they went through Randy and they did all the necessary things. But I get to just drive past and they have to stop. But it's still like, what if? What if that's, you know, I don't know, I agree.
And I very much on the road like you and very cautious of like, even if I'm getting close to like where I need to pull in for my community, I'll go past it. Yeah, I will go past it. I've done well, and I have really scary experience. I was actually driving, it was at night with my mom's in the car with me, my brother, who's asleep in the back, because he'd worked and we were on our way to somewhere.
I can't remember going. But it was late at night. It was probably midnight one o'clock in the morning, and we're driving on the highway. And there's a car behind me and I'm driving and kind of like, kind of sort of paying attention.
And I'm like, that's weird. This car's been behind me for like, a long, long time. But we're on the highway. So it's not really that big deal.
Right. I'm like, this is really weird. And so I would, and like anytime I pass the car and got back over, it would pass the same car and get back over behind me. And so I'm like, well, that's really weird.
So I finally, after like five or seven minutes of this, like noticing it, I tell my mom, I'm like, this car is like following us. Like, it's really weird. And she's like, no, like, no. So it would be our passing cars or big trucks this night.
And this car seems like, we'll just, you know, it's like 70 where we were. Yeah. Was this be like, we'll just slow down, like five miles under the speed limit. There's gonna be really around.
It's not like we were causing a danger to anybody. And she's like, just slow down and see if they pass you kind of thing. I'm like, okay. So I slowed down to 65.
Yeah, still behind me. I saw down to 60. They're still behind me. I'm like, oh, that's so weird.
So I speed back up and I am like, let me go really fast. So I'm like, across my fingers, hoping there's no cops around. And there's nobody on the road. So I like push it up to like 80.
She's still right on my tail. Oh my gosh. Slow down. I slow down to like 50 miles an hour.
70 still behind me. And mom's like, okay, this is weird. I'm like, this is really weird. So we kind of get to another pack of traffic.
So I'm like weaving in and out of cars and they're weaving in and out behind me. And I'm like, what on earth? And like, it's not like we had stopped anywhere. So I kind of picked somebody up.
Right. Kind of thing. And mom's like, well, so she's looking at the map and she's like, there's an exit coming up where it's one of those like, you could hop off and hop right back on. Oh, and she's like, take that exit and see if they go with you.
And so there was a car. I'm in the left lane. There's a car in the right lane. I like speed up around the one in the right lane and all not really cut them off, but like cut in front of them.
Yeah. So like at the last possible minute and cut all the way across and that car tries to cut across and can't make it and just kept going. Oh my gosh. And give me chills.
So we pull back onto the road. And as I went by, like I registered like what kind of car it was. And as we get back on the interstate and are going, I see that car in front doing the same thing to another vehicle. Just a random car.
So I don't know like what the game was, but it was really freaky. I don't like that. I didn't like it at all. Anyway, wow, that's my story.
Okay. So I pay attention to that. Good to know. So back to this situation, that was my scary experience.
Yeah. It's pretty crazy. It's like sounds kind of familiar to this. So yeah, they driven around driven around behind them in this older model Chevrolet flashing their lights, trying to force them off the road.
The band later got out of his car and menacingly approached the couple, sensing danger, they reversed and managed to flee the scene. Good. So they were able to get out of the net. Oh yeah.
After Mildred and Susan Jackson's bodies were found, detectives discovered an abandoned building near the dump site. Reportedly, the same center block structure that had been searched after Margaret Harold's killing. Inside, they found a red button missing from Mildred's dress indicating that she had been taken there after being kidnapped. Near the building were fresh tire marks.
After finding points of comparison between the Harold and Jackson cases, mainly the general area of the murders and the sadistic nature of the crimes investigators determined that both homicides were committed by the same culprit. And it seems like he just took the dad and the baby essentially and got rid of them quickly so that he could torture and harm this five year old and her mother. Yeah. Yeah.
The murder investigation very quickly became a media sensation with the involvement of self-proclaimed psychic Peter Hercos. Self-proclaimed. Mm-hmm. Hey, guess what, Haley?
I can see your future. Well, I can see into next week. Wow. You'll be with me here.
Right here. Same time. I see it. Okay.
It will. He visited the grave site of the Jackson's and Falls Church, Virginia, and handled their possessions, allegedly using his powers to accurately describe the murders and the positions in which their bodies were found. Wow. Pretty crazy.
Yeah. Hercos visited the site of Margaret Harold's murder and told investigators that the same killer had murdered the Jackson's. He also made various predictions about the outcome of the case, saying it would be solved within two weeks and that the killer would ultimately be indicted for nine murders. Hercos reportedly led investigators to the house of one of their main suspects, a trash collector who confessed to the murders.
With a later apprehension of Reese, however, Hercos and his claims about the case were ridiculed by the Washington Post. Well, I mean, yeah. You know, when you try and pick up the wrong man for things like murder, yeah, it's typically not ending well. No.
No. Yeah. An anonymous source later identified as a glenet morcer of Norfolk, Virginia, sent a letter to the Fredericksburg authorities suggesting that they look into Reese. Moser explained that he and Reese often engaged in petty philosophical conversations, one of which had been about whether murder could be considered acceptable.
Reese, under the influence of Ben Zidrine, confided to Moser. Yeah. Confided to Moser that he considered murder to be just another part of the quote, human experience and that he eagerly wanted to take part in it. Uh, no.
You can be evicted if you want. Yeah. No. Oh.
Apparently, he said quote, you can't say it's wrong to kill. Only individual standards make it right or wrong. I'm gonna go with wrong all the time. I'm gonna hear.
Let's just say murder and killing someone is wrong. It's bad. Period. Period.
Do that. Yeah. Yeah. And don't use drugs.
Don't use drugs. Drugs are bad. No drugs. The discussion took place the day before the Jackson's disappeared.
Upon hearing of their murders months later, Moser suspected Reese of killing the family. Moser confronted Reese about the murders. While Reese did not confess to the killings, he didn't, he also didn't deny responsibility and became evasive. In his anonymous letter, Moser also voiced a suspicion of Reese in Margaret Harold's murder in 1957, as the two men were working in the Annapolis area as salesman at the time.
That's too convenient. Yeah. Agreed. Authorities decided to follow the lead and question Reese, only to find that he had moved out of his house and left no forwarding address.
Oh my gosh. Now he's on the run. They also searched for Reese at the jazz clubs where he was known to have performed, but were still unable to locate him. Upon running a background check, police discovered that he had attended the University of Maryland and dated Wanda Tipton, their person of interest in the Margaret Harold investigation.
Upon further questioning, Tipton admitted to having a relationship with Reese, but broke it off after Reese claimed to be married. Alright, moving in too. What ever happened to the wife and son? Because he never got divorced, right?
They probably, I'm hoping they just he'd addled right on out there. I hope so. Yeah. Okay.
The writer of the anonymous letter personally came forward in 1960 to tell authorities that Reese had contacted him and was currently employed at a music store in West Memphis, Arkansas. Reese was ultimately arrested, and after searching his home, police found notes describing the Jackson family's murders. The man also witnessed Margaret Harold's killing confirmed that Reese was indeed the man he saw. Kill Harold.
So this boyfriend who was a soldier. Reese was convicted by the state of Maryland of Harold's murder and sentenced to life in prison. Virginia added a death sentence for the other four murders, though it was eventually changed to life in 1972. Right.
Melvin Reese died in prison in 1995. Wow. So investigators also suspected that Reese was responsible for four homicides in the area around the University of Maryland. Teenagers Mary Shumitz, Michael and Mickey Ryan.
Yes, Michael and Ryan, who went by Mickey. Mary fellers and Shelby Venable were all found raped and killed in separate incidents. Reese was never charged in any of those four murders. Of course it does add to his like nine.
I have to say four and four and one. Yeah. That's nine. Yep.
How's Pookie? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he was never officially charged in those, but they're pretty sure he was responsible for those four murders as well.
But an evil people person. And that is the story. Melvin David Reese. I don't like this man.
No. Well, and more importantly, you know, the story of Margaret and the Jackson family. I can't imagine the absolute fear that this woman and her child experienced. I'm also like kind of shocked like how do you control four people like that.
I mean, two of them are children. Right. So and obviously he separated them, but like how? Well, saying things like I mean, he tied them up.
So we knew they were tied up. So probably couldn't get out. And probably the fear was he probably said if you don't do what I say, I'll kill your children. Right.
And so the parents were like, okay, we'll do whatever you say. Yeah. And so I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know how I don't know how it went. I don't know. It's like they watched as the dad toppled and died. And then he took them the other two to this place.
I don't know or he took the two to this place and kept them locked up and then kept them paired with dad. I don't know. I know. It's just like a bit just the fear alone.
Oh my God. And also, I am so glad that you were able to get off on that exit. Good work. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. It was just very, very strange. That whole encounter was very strange.
I still think about it. Like obviously, yeah, about it. So yeah. And I'm glad you weren't alone either.
Me too. I don't know what I would have done if I'd been alone. Yeah. I would have probably tried to get off an exit and see if that vehicle was still following me at that point and then called the police to, you know, assist me.
Yeah, I would have in that situation to like come and like either pull me over or the car behind me and you know, that kind of thing. So, you know, I have a, you know, in my mind of like what I would do, like if it happens near where I live, I'm like, I'm just driving straight to the police station. Exactly. Like I'm gonna drive straight into the, like where I know there are cops.
Exactly. Or like find a, you know, if I'm going to jump, right? A Duncan. The gas station that they all hang out at before closes.
Yeah. Where they're all night shift. Or the, you know, Walmart, wherever. Yeah.
Wherever. Yeah. Well lit area. Exactly.
Heavily populated. Yes. Exactly. Yeah.
Target. But yeah. So sad story. Some real bummer recently.
I know. Well, I mean, the nature of this. Isn't really, uh, it doesn't really lend itself. Right.
They're like happily ever after. And then they lived happily ever after. No, usually not. Usually not.
Usually not. Ever what we say in this podcast. That's not what I'm all. No.
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