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EPISODE · Jan 8, 2026 · 49 MIN

Mind the Skills Gap: How to Build a Skills-based Organisation with Koreen Pagano

from Harald’s Curious Corner · host Harald Overaa

How do you actually build a skills-based organisation in practice, and why does it matter now?L&D has been mainly about designing learning content and delivering training. Now, we’re moving towards reimagining the very foundation of how we work, especially with the rise of AI.I chatted with Koreen Pagano, co-founder of Rising Tide Cooperative and author of Building the Skills-Based Organization: A Blueprint for Transformation. Koreen shares her expertise on the intersection of learning, technology, and skills data. She offers a fresh perspective on how AI is not just reshaping workflows but requiring a complete rethinking of how we manage and measure skills.Get ready for a great conversation about what organisations need as AI changes the way we work. Our goal is to build a clear path through this big transition.Some curious takeaways:L&D must understand both skills and tasks, not just contentCollaboration across teams is crucial for a skills-based strategySkills are not the final product; what matters is how they’re applied to create real business impact.Episode highlights:(00:00) Welcome to Harald’s Curious Corner(03:14) Why AI is making skills development more urgent(05:51) How skills data impacts decisions throughout the employee lifecycle(08:20) The need for HR and L&D to collaborate with business unit leaders(11:37) How to assess and validate skills effectively in an evolving workplace(16:27) The challenge of measuring accurate data on skills and tasks(21:51) Why data quality is critical for AI’s success in skills-based organisations(25:45) Understanding that skills are not the end goal(32:56) The impact of employee buy-in on skills initiatives(37:28) How to choose the right technology for skills ecosystems(43:49) What to leave behind and what to embrace in skills developmentConnect with the guests:Koreen Pagano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/koreenpagano/ Get Building the Skills-Based Organization: A Blueprint for Transformation: https://a.co/d/bT1X1VX Explore Rising Tide Cooperative: https://risingtidecooperative.com/ Follow me on the following sites:Harald Overaa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haraldovera/ Subscribe to Harald’s Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6901795950403186688/ 

How do you actually build a skills-based organisation in practice, and why does it matter now?L&D has been mainly about designing learning content and delivering training. Now, we’re moving towards reimagining the very foundation of how we work, especially with the rise of AI.I chatted with Koreen Pagano, co-founder of Rising Tide Cooperative and author of Building the Skills-Based Organization: A Blueprint for Transformation. Koreen shares her expertise on the intersection of learning, technology, and skills data. She offers a fresh perspective on how AI is not just reshaping workflows but requiring a complete rethinking of how we manage and measure skills.Get ready for a great conversation about what organisations need as AI changes the way we work. Our goal is to build a clear path through this big transition.Some curious takeaways:L&D must understand both skills and tasks, not just contentCollaboration across teams is crucial for a skills-based strategySkills are not the final product; what matters is how they’re applied to create real business impact.Episode highlights:(00:00) Welcome to Harald’s Curious Corner(03:14) Why AI is making skills development more urgent(05:51) How skills data impacts decisions throughout the employee lifecycle(08:20) The need for HR and L&D to collaborate with business unit leaders(11:37) How to assess and validate skills effectively in an evolving workplace(16:27) The challenge of measuring accurate data on skills and tasks(21:51) Why data quality is critical for AI’s success in skills-based organisations(25:45) Understanding that skills are not the end goal(32:56) The impact of employee buy-in on skills initiatives(37:28) How to choose the right technology for skills ecosystems(43:49) What to leave behind and what to embrace in skills developmentConnect with the guests:Koreen Pagano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/koreenpagano/ Get Building the Skills-Based Organization: A Blueprint for Transformation: https://a.co/d/bT1X1VX Explore Rising Tide Cooperative: https://risingtidecooperative.com/ Follow me on the following sites:Harald Overaa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haraldovera/ Subscribe to Harald’s Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6901795950403186688/

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