EPISODE · Feb 13, 2026 · 1H 7M
Minor Violence and Productive Confusion (JENNET THOMAS + SALLY O'REILLY)
from ART FICTIONS · host Jillian Knipe
Guest artists JENNET THOMAS and SALLY O'REILLY come together to discuss their work via the short story 'Critique' by Ben Marcus. Published in 2018 by Alfred A Knopf and Grant Books, it is one of 13 stories appearing in 'Notes from the Fog' which explore dysfunction, desolation and disconnection within a woundingly funny collision of art and reality. 'The Big Throw' at SET Social 23 April 2026 Buy us a coffee! Support us on Patreon! Get in touch! [email protected] "...narrative plot and how sticky and unpleasant it can be" JT "The idea of just working in response to the infinity of the universe is appalling to me" SO'R Sally and Jennet's conversation encompasses anti-plot, delirium, vertigo, maximalism, hermeticism, visitations and the grotesque. Yearning superpowers of persuasion, they go on and about carboot sales, ontological slippage, lemon sucking, deceptive loops, skewing language, twiddling knobs, automatic sterilisers, visually flamboyant, minor violences, constricting constraints, painting barcodes, slyly political, shifting rules, making knickerbockers, troubling reality, social reproductions, found objects, draped flesh, ecstatic technology talk, working in a factory, the pleasure of difficulty, a taste in the head, reality from the inside out, audience participation as part of the materials, weirdness coming into the living room, jumping to the whip of the ref, being wary of simplification and elegance, well made in a brutal violent sense at gunpoint, and a seal in mud with a lion's head. JENNET THOMAS jennetthomas.com @jennetthomas 'School of Change' 2012 'All Suffering SOON TO END!' 2010 'Return of the Black Tower (after John Smith)' 2007 SALLY O'REILLY sallyoreilly.org.uk @manfredopenarms 'The Money Laundering Service' 2025 'Dog Shelves' 2024 'Where They Gather' 2022 'Estee Lauder Factory' 2022 'The Annual Retrieval' 2016 'The Virtues of Things' 2015 "I can't breath" Eric Garner George Floyd ARTISTS John Smith Kit Downes Klara Kofen Leo Chadburn Matt Rogers Maz Murray Simeon Barclay WRITERS + BOOKS Christine Brooke-Rose Frieze magazine M John Harrison Muriel Spark Russell Hoborn 'Riddley Walker' Sally O'Reilly 'Help in Cucumbers' Will Self William Empson FILM + TELEVISION 'Bedknobs and Boomsticks' 'Brimstone and Treacle' Dennis Potter Michael Kitchen 'The Terminator' GALLERIES + ORGANISATIONS Bandcamp Horse Hospital Matts Gallery ICA Institute Contemporary Art October House Records Opera North Royal Opera House SET Social SLG South London Gallery
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Guest artists JENNET THOMAS and SALLY O'REILLY come together to discuss their work via the short story 'Critique' by Ben Marcus. Published in 2018 by Alfred A Knopf and Grant Books, it is one of 13 stories appearing in 'Notes from the Fog' which explore dysfunction, desolation and disconnection within a woundingly funny collision of art and reality. 'The Big Throw' at SET Social 23 April 2026 Buy us a coffee! Support us on Patreon! Get in touch! [email protected] "...narrative plot and how sticky and unpleasant it can be" JT "The idea of just working in response to the infinity of the universe is appalling to me" SO'R Sally and Jennet's conversation encompasses anti-plot, delirium, vertigo, maximalism, hermeticism, visitations and the grotesque. Yearning superpowers of persuasion, they go on and about carboot sales, ontological slippage, lemon sucking, deceptive loops, skewing language, twiddling knobs, automatic sterilisers, visually flamboyant, minor violences, constricting constraints, painting barcodes, slyly political, shifting rules, making knickerbockers, troubling reality, social reproductions, found objects, draped flesh, ecstatic technology talk, working in a factory, the pleasure of difficulty, a taste in the head, reality from the inside out, audience participation as part of the materials, weirdness coming into the living room, jumping to the whip of the ref, being wary of simplification and elegance, well made in a brutal violent sense at gunpoint, and a seal in mud with a lion's head. JENNET THOMAS jennetthomas.com @jennetthomas 'School of Change' 2012 'All Suffering SOON TO END!' 2010 'Return of the Black Tower (after John Smith)' 2007 SALLY O'REILLY sallyoreilly.org.uk @manfredopenarms 'The Money Laundering Service' 2025 'Dog Shelves' 2024 'Where They Gather' 2022 'Estee Lauder Factory' 2022 'The Annual Retrieval' 2016 'The Virtues of Things' 2015 "I can't breath" Eric Garner George Floyd ARTISTS John Smith Kit Downes Klara Kofen Leo Chadburn Matt Rogers Maz Murray Simeon Barclay WRITERS + BOOKS Christine Brooke-Rose Frieze magazine M John Harrison Muriel Spark Russell Hoborn 'Riddley Walker' Sally O'Reilly 'Help in Cucumbers' Will Self William Empson FILM + TELEVISION 'Bedknobs and Boomsticks' 'Brimstone and Treacle' Dennis Potter Michael Kitchen 'The Terminator' GALLERIES + ORGANISATIONS Bandcamp Horse Hospital Matts Gallery ICA Institute Contemporary Art October House Records Opera North Royal Opera House SET Social SLG South London Gallery
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