Moving Through Air, Moving Through Life episode artwork

EPISODE · Dec 19, 2025 · 1H 31M

Moving Through Air, Moving Through Life

from Dance Chat · host TheTryGirl

When winter light falls across her shoulders in New York, Julie Ludwick has already been dancing for sixty years.Sixty years — what does that mean?It means a person has given her entire body to time, her entire spirit to the stage.It means choosing to trust her weight to a steel bar, a gently swaying low-flying trapeze, or a ladder hung in the air — and choosing to do so again and again for decades.At Fly-by-Night, the nonprofit aerial dance company she founded in 1999, Julie is not just a “director.” She is still, first and foremost, a dancer who has not come down to earth — someone who continues to fight the world’s heaviness with her own weightlessness.I. A Child Who Grew Out of Alaska’s DarknessJulie grew up in Alaska: a place of long rains, longer nights, and deep isolation.When she was six, a classically trained ballet teacher happened to move into their small town. Ballet became a narrow beam of light cutting through the pervasive dark.Years later her sister would tell her: “You always stood at the front of the barre, like you already knew where you were going.”At twelve, her older brother died by suicide — a rupture no one talked about. In that era, in that place, grief was something swallowed, not spoken.“Dance saved me,” she says.It became the only space where her sadness could be worked through physically, where discipline and sweat could temporarily silence fear.II. Her First FlightIn college she shifted toward modern dance and eventually found her way to a pivotal moment: performing in an aerial work by mentor Robert Davidson.The first time she floated off the floor, she understood something immediate and irreversible:Dance didn’t have to happen only on the ground.And she didn’t have to forever obey gravity.“It felt like climbing trees as a kid,” she says — except this time she could stay in the air.She moved to New York, juggling teaching jobs, late-night rehearsals, grant proposals, and endless freelance gigs — anything to keep flying.Fly-by-Night became an official nonprofit in 1999, built with exhaustion and faith.III. Between Flight and the Ground, She Is Always BalancingFrom the outside, aerial dance looks effortless: bodies floating, twirling, defying physics.Behind the scenes, Julie spends far more time with spreadsheets than spotlights.Insurance forms, grant applications, rehearsal contracts, theater negotiations — the invisible labor that makes one hour of performance possible.“To keep dancers safe, I have to pay for liability insurance, workers’ comp, high-ceiling rehearsal spaces, everything,” she says.“And to make one dance, I might need to write dozens of documents.”She advises her students: Artists don’t retire.But in private she admits: “I’m always exhausted.”She does not romanticize the artist’s life — not because she is cynical, but because she knows: what sustains her is not comfort, but the stories that are worth being told.IV. Her Works Are Born from the Fractures of Her LifeJulie’s choreography often rises from grief.On the flight home after her father died, she saw an entire dance unfold in her mind, scene by scene, like clouds arranging themselves into meaning. She returned to New York and immediately began rehearsals.During the pandemic, her sister fell ill and Julie’s family sent her “joys” — little things that made them happy.After her sister passed, Julie continued to find joy but no longer knew where to send it.So she sent it to the stage.“Dance makes these experience meaningful,” she says — not because it erases pain, but because it transforms it.V. In Her Classroom, Dancers Return to Their Bodies — and to ThemselvesJulie often tells her students: “Listen to the body,”“Let the image move you.”Her teaching blends somatic awareness, improvisation, and Eastern philosophy. She is not interested in producing copies of herself but in helping each dancer uncover movement that belongs only to them.“Technique matters,” she says, “but the movement has to grow out of you.”She loves watching a student find something new in the air — like a stone cracking open to reveal light.VI. On Continuity and Hardship: The System Has Never Favored ArtistsJulie speaks candidly about the systemic challenges facing dancers: underfunding, costly rentals, little pay, shrinking grants, and the near impossibility of financial stability.“It’s a risky life,” she says. “But I don’t know what else I’d do.”She understands clearly:Being an artist is not freedom — it is perpetual balancing, a kind of lifelong improvisation.But “If you choose it, it will give you what you most need in your life.”VII. The Future: Flying Until the Body Says NoToday, her company faces tightening resources.She continues to write grants, run small fundraisers, nurture her dancers, and imagine the next work — even as the arts landscape grows more uncertain.She doesn’t know whether the future of dance in New York will improve.She doesn’t know whether the city will become too expensive for dreams that require so much space — literal and figurative.But she knows one thing: as long as her body can fly, she will fly.Support Fly-By-Nightins @flybynightdanceHoliday Auction: https://www.32auctions.com/HolidayAuctionFBNDonate: https://flybynightdance.org/donate/Audition: https://flybynightdance.org/participate/classes/collab & contact: [email protected] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetrygirl.substack.com

NOW PLAYING

Moving Through Air, Moving Through Life

0:00 1:31:36

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

The Health Odyssey: Navigating Tomorrow's Medicine Podcast Welcome to 'The Health Odyssey: Navigating Tomorrow's Medicine,' where we embark on an adventurous journey through the ever-evolving world of healthcare. Each episode is like a treasure map, guiding you through the rich tapestry of ancient healing arts mixed with futuristic tech wizardry. We’ll chat about the wild west of health data privacy, the corporate giants reshaping our care, and the mind-bending potential of psychedelics for mental wellness. Think of us as your trusty sidekicks, unraveling the mysteries of modern medicine while keeping it real and relatable. Let’s dive into the stories, the science, and the soul of healthcare, paving the way for a healthier tomorrow. IT IS WHAT IT IS with SHALLZ - SHALLY ZOMORODI Shally Zomorodi What?  "It is what it is" with ShallZ – Shally ZomorodiWhen? WeeklyHow long? 35 minutesEvery week, Mother of 4, wife, morning TV news anchor and ultimate hostess, Shally Zomorodi talks about life - its up's and downs and how to stay on track in her weekly podcast, ‘It is what it is.’  Known for her high energy, infectious smile and ability to see the cup as half full Shally talks about all things in life and how to work through its challenges. From parenting, marriage, friendships, current events to how to smile when it just seems impossible ‘It is what it is’ is the perfect podcast to help inspire you to dance through the rain. Healing & Storytelling iamshaerka Life can be hard but thank the Lord we don’t have to go at it with our strength alone. Life with Christ is my trials, tribulations, and testimonies in the race of faith with Christ Jesus. The goal is to get closer to Jesus with bible and life chat. So, let’s talk it out, walk it out and get right with our Lord and Savior of the world. No one is asking you to be perfect, just to try for the Lord. He loved us first, even when we were sinners so it's easy to love Him back. Let’s do life with Christ together! API Intersection Stoplight Building a successful API requires more than just coding. It starts with collaborative design, focuses on creating a great developer experience, and ends with getting your company on board, maintaining consistency, and maximizing your API’s profitability.In the API Intersection, you’ll learn from experienced API practitioners who transformed their organizations, and get tangible advice to build quality APIs with collaborative API-first design.Jason Harmon brings over a decade of industry-recognized REST API experience to discuss topics around API design, governance, identity/auth versioning, and more.They’ll answer listener questions, and discuss best practices on API design (definition, modeling, grammar), Governance (multi-team design, reviewing new API’s), Platform Transformation (culture, internal education, versioning) and more.They’ll also chat with experienced API practitioners from a wide array of industries to draw out practical takeaways and insights you can use.H

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Dance Chat?

This episode is 1 hour and 31 minutes long.

When was this Dance Chat episode published?

This episode was published on December 19, 2025.

What is this episode about?

When winter light falls across her shoulders in New York, Julie Ludwick has already been dancing for sixty years.Sixty years — what does that mean?It means a person has given her entire body to time, her entire spirit to the stage.It means choosing...

Can I download this Dance Chat episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!