Hey, I'm Matthew Shell, comedian, writer, and floating head you may or may not have seen on your FYP. I'm starting a brand new podcast. Wait, don't swipe away. It's called That Sounds Like A Lot.
You know that feeling when you check your phone, read a few headlines and think, that sounds like a lot. I can't do this. Well, I can. I'm gonna get into it every Friday.
You can watch on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcast. I'm gonna start by breaking down whatever insanity is happening in the world. And then I'll sit down with a comedian or actor or writer or, honestly, anyone who responds to my DMs. This is not the place to get the news, but it is a place to feel a little bit better about it.
That sounds like a lot coming May 1st, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.
And this is Scott Galloway. Scott, we just had a long interview with Patrick Book, the algebra of happiness. I know, I'm glad you got the title. I feel spent.
I feel emotionally vulnerable. Yeah. You're not gonna like whip up another rant like last week about Lyft. No, I'm on my meds.
Yeah. Just something I probably shouldn't joke about, right? Is that a hate crime now? Anyway, yeah, I'm feeling kind of mellow.
I'm gonna be visiting the Lyft guys next week. I'm gonna be curious if we listen to him. Throw a diamond at their head. Say, can you drive you somewhere and throw a diamond at their head.
Say, that's what you do, you're 1.4 million drivers. No, no, no. Don't get me started. Seriously, don't get me started.
What do you hate the Uber people more? Because I'm gonna see them too. Yeah, I think right hailing is, I got a ton of stuff saying this and thread. I think right hailing is the tobacco they get economy.
I figured out a way to separate, you know, everyday workers from the white people who split all the money with their. I shall see what they say. Yeah. When I get there, nicer than the Uber people.
They were nicer. I'm just saying. I mean, they're all nice. No, they're not.
Really? And to the O, my friend. Yeah. They look nice.
Do you think that matters? See, I don't think it really matters if they're nicer. I don't think it matters what they're doing. Anyway, there's so many big stories.
There's so many big stories this week already. Obviously these hearings on white nationalism. Yeah, crazy. Where they're just discovering that is available online.
It's incredible that I was talking to someone pretty high up at one of the tech companies who isn't one of those social companies. They're like, you know, it's amazing. Around the world, like in New Zealand and Australia and Europe, they're already like making moves about how to fix this and like that. Here, we're just deciding whether it's a problem.
But that's the myth, Kara, the myth. It's ridiculous. I do think of that. I'm like, you're right.
They're like debating the problem. Well, in Germany, where they're more liable for it. Germany has figured out a way to have more moderators and the content slowly but surely has become less offensive. I'm trying to start finding them a billion dollars a day.
They'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. They'll just shut it down.
You know, it's going to just end up on it. The perfect metaphor for me is they can literally target households with teens who just got their driver's licenses, but they can't figure out a way for me to stop getting birth to alerts from a friend of mine who died of ovarian cancer four years ago. It's like, okay, where are their priorities? I think it's interesting with this because one of the issues was when they had the hearings yesterday and it was kind of ugly.
Candace Owens was there fighting the tech loop. The whole thing, you know, the whole thing just brings out all this so much hate and they didn't get to the point which is how do you protect people make people safe online and prevent attacks like this and from jeering everybody up. What was really interesting is that the comments on YouTube had to be shut down. Didn't they anticipate that?
So, you know, the big winners. The big winners are the haters. The haters showed up, started making anti-Semitic comments and that was the story. All kinds of it.
It's like, and you had people on the far left and the far right trying to embarrass each other and not make any progress around the issue. I think these hearings, I messed the wonks of like Rastankowski and Bingo who actually dug in Barney Frank actually dug in to the content of the issue. He's fantastic. He's fantastic.
He's great. He needs to watch him. He's a gangster. Someone told me he lives like up in near Boston.
He's on the Cape or something like that. Anyway, but yesterday it was just partisan bickering and then the platform got shut down because of all the hate commentary. It's literally a large number of times. I would know to turn that one off.
Like that one is not one. Just shut the comments off. Why can't these be that? Common sense.
Well, here's the thing. And this is what's ironic is they claim they don't want to have editorial control and they wrap themselves in First Amendment. First Amendment is for the public square. Not for private company.
And also they are the master, you know, the other Uber editors, if you will, because their algorithms decide which content we see more of. So they're editing to the, you know, they're editing on steroids. They've been editing for a while. So why couldn't they just edit more responsibly?
So the whole thing, but yeah, yesterday was, I mean, I think the appropriate term for yesterday was it was just a total shit show. Yeah, it really was. And I think the republic is bringing in so controversial with so many people is it was just like they're making fun of it, but they don't want to actually get something done. It said Republicans turn white nationalism hearing into a GOP party.
You know, the whole you're right. The whole size of the whole idea of like having these moments of not revelation with the opposite revelation or solution building. Like what do we do about this? And other countries are on to it like on to the idea like Britain with their new proposals this year this week they dropped, which is essentially you're going to pay for this.
Yeah, we've had we've had it and we're going to have and Theresa May back did it seems so civil like this is what we're going to do reasonable and we're going to think about it. We're going to do it right. Yeah. I think it's going to go further than that.
I think we're going to have and I've been saying this for a while. I think we're going to have a Latin American or small European nation Northern European ban one of these guys. You're not enough already. You're out.
We're done. We'll be fine. Our kids will be angry for a weekend and then we'll be fine. But what's interesting is it's coming from Australia, New Zealand and Europe, which is really and you know, and a little bit California like that one is not going that far, but it's a really interesting sort of jump the Pacific just the Atlantic the Pacific and they're doing something about it.
But it's how that we're just discussing the issue is really amazing just discussing the issue. Are you going to ask you this? I'm exhausted by the whole thing. Do you think that's their strategy that they just exhaust us?
That's just kind of got enough already you win. They're not going to win. I'm not exhausted. Yeah, you think it's coming?
Yeah. I could do this all day. Yeah. You watch Captain America.
You don't watch Avengers, do you? You're so under Captain America. I'm not Captain America. Captain Marvel is my favorite, but the new Avengers movie is coming out in a few weeks.
And it's got that woman from the movie The Room, which is a fantastic movie. That's Captain Marvel. Oh my god. I'm not speaking ever with you.
You know what I did. You know what I did? My youngest was out of sleep over my wife was away. So I said to my 11 year old, I said, it's just you and me.
Let's do something totally inappropriate. We're going to watch a movie you shouldn't watch. I mean, you don't watch Deadpool. I'd say Ted.
Oh, Deadpool. Oh my god. That is a fantastic movie. I took my kids to that.
That's an outstanding movie. I took a bunch of a three or two. We need Deadpool at one of these years. I asked the parents.
I get asked the parents and I thought I'm like that's the parents and I did because Deadpool is not a big Deadpool too. I took a pack of eight years. And my son is so like prude and so good. He would actually ask me to fast forward certain scenes.
They were just too much. Really? Deadpool? Yeah.
It's like joke a minute. Like I'll tell you what's an awkward situation is bringing your son. He was a bit my other son was a bit older, but I took him to sausage party. That was an error.
Oh yeah, it's with the Seth Rogan. It's a bunch of people. And at first you're like, oh, that's interesting. But then at the end, there's a real.
What do you pick and looper? No. Can I just tell you there's a terrible part at the end. And my son turned to me and he goes bad parenting.
Bad parenting. This he goes, this is awkward. Yeah. I agree.
I don't like to do. Do we? We had a discussion. And he and I were both like, it was the worst that we just sat there.
Would you like some red vines? This is a moment. And he literally said bad parenting. And I was like, I agree completely.
I concur. And that's it. Anyway, back to this. Where's it gonna go with this?
When are our lawmakers going to actually do something about it? Well, I don't know if you saw the riff today, but now they're further conservative guy. Ted Cruz said he's threatened. I got excited.
It said Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz threatens antitrust action. Oh, wow. He's got the right script because of conservative bias. Yeah.
And so now they're bringing up this notion of conservative bias again, which is again, going to be another illusionist trick where they're going to say, Hey, look over here, everybody. Oh, Ted Cruz. Well, but the problem is I think Facebook and social media will embrace it because they'll they will eventually be able to dispel it. Yeah.
No, no, no, no, dispel the notion that these platforms have a conservative anti conservative bias. They don't. I know what that's my point. They have nothing.
They wish they had a bias. I wish they believed in something. That's my thing. No, they don't look left.
They don't look right. They look down. They just I want to ignore it. You know, he, you know, we will see, no, wait, kids are depressed.
Oh, wait, this mass shooting was probably motivated by your platform or at least was, was there trafficking in it? Yeah. We don't want to know. We're first amendment.
We don't care. Interesting. I had an interesting interview with Roger Mack. I mean, this weekend, an analyst book there, which was fascinating.
I put him on my Twitter feed, which was fun and interesting. And then I interviewed Scott McNealy this week. Oh, son? We back on?
Yeah. Privacy get over it. You have no privacy. You have no privacy.
Get over it. He's like utility for privacy. We've earned the trade off. And he did set at 25 years ago.
So I read a column this week in the Times about that and I talked to him. And what's Roger? I still don't have no privacy. And you should still get over it.
Yeah. Yeah. Like a use to it too bad. I don't think I actually don't think privacy is the biggest issue.
I think the biggest issue is that these platforms have shown no regard for the sovereign to your nation or are I think it's interlinked. I think you've got privacy linked with hate speech linked with addition. I think they're all around the same. It's all part of the same.
Same stew. But so what do you think I was talking? I do think the ecosystem's got the worst of the trees. Okay.
Okay. The structural underpinnings are all together and they're all linked. It's the force. Yeah.
Kind of like vision's brain when they were trying to take out the soulstone. So you're on something. There were 31. You're highly caffeinated.
It's just I had to see this enormous empty star box because I'm going to see endgame. You need to see. You don't know either those things. What are they?
Cultural references. I don't know what they are. So what do you think is going to happen here? I don't know what's going to happen.
I think I don't know. I think hopefully a privacy bill will pass. I hope they will start. I think these stuff in Europe is going to Europe and Australia and New Zealand will charge a press them.
And maybe some other countries going to take this lead here. Maybe some other that's going to happen. Anyway, next story. I think I think they still don't get it.
I still don't think they get it. Pinterest IPO. Yeah. This one's interesting.
So about I think 680 or 700 million revenue. Group 60% which is really impressive. And Pinterest has sort of been the little engine that could. They have carved out a nice niche for themselves.
Do you have boards that you pin to? I don't but I like Pinterest. Yeah, it's nice. I always thought it was if you're decorating a house or getting married, it's sort of perfect.
But there's a lot of other stuff. And you can see how the the ad model works. But the fact that we're able to grow 60% and given what just how ridiculous some of these companies are, the fact that they only lost 70 million. Yeah, 70.
If they can grow 60% to the next two years, you're talking about the only kind of company that there's 7 million. They don't lose that much money, right? But they took the price down. They took the price down.
They're under the IPO down. They don't want to be a broke down. It's valuation. It's private valuation.
It's a last private round. It's last private round. Yeah. But it's the tough part about Pinterest.
So nice. Nice market. They carved out something interesting. The economics actually look decent here.
The hard part I started with Pinterest is what happens if and when it becomes a big enough business that Instagram or Amazon says. I always think about them. Who do you think buys them? Oh, Amazon or Google.
Either one or Alibaba. Any of them. There's there's all three of them. There's, you know, it's really, I know Ben very well.
He's a very quiet, brainy guy. Yeah. He's not. Yes.
And he doesn't see what to Google. He doesn't seek out the public. It'll be interesting of him being a public company. He almost doesn't want to be.
He feels like he's not. I think that works any longer. I think you have to be a fantastic storyteller. Well, he isn't.
So it'll be interesting. I'm fascinated by, I was just emailing with him because I wanted to see him on his Instagram. He's busy on his thing. But I'm like, I can't believe you on a road show.
It was, you know, he's several times I've had dinner with him. And we never talk about tech. It's always something. But it's not a Tim Cook kind of quiet.
It's a real quiet. It's a real deep quiet. It's big questions. It's always like, let's talk about marriage and you're like, like, you know what I mean?
It's like, you know, instead of like, what do you want to know? I've done it twice. He doesn't gossip. He doesn't gossip.
He doesn't gossip. He doesn't. He doesn't gossip. He doesn't engage in small talk.
You know, it's a really interesting person. He's super careful. Now he's not perfect. I've heard lots of different things in time, like about dysfunction, like the ending company.
Well, that's weird because I think every tech that's really, that's shocking because I think that every major tech CEO is perfect. I'm under these guys are wonderful human beings. He's not the, he's not the Mark Zuckerberg awkward thing. He's very facile in talking.
It's just, he's a really, it'll be really interesting. And I agree. I think it's a really promising, I always thought it was always me. And do you know any the, I always like to see the layer down.
Do you know any of the other managers? I like them. They've had a little bit of a spin. It's been revolving.
There's been a lot of a revolve. There's lots of people. Lots of people. Lots of the other guy either.
There's, there's, I think the two founders are still there. I can't totally be like any other guy. But it's an interesting, it's just an interesting, I find it to move through lots of people actually. So that's a, that's always a, what's going on there.
But what happens if Amazon launches a board and so 10% off anything to pin or Instagram. But that's, that's the interesting thing. And that is, is it because it's not big enough? They don't care?
Yeah. I mean, this isn't a business. Is it a small business? And then I was saying, what are the adjacent businesses?
Are they going to sell stuff? That's what they really have to show is what are the adjacent, what are the common businesses? The 700 million, unfortunately. How does that too?
Another interesting company. That's a great company. I love the one who runs that company. She's making that on stage a code before.
It's really, it's a question of how big it can get. I think right. That's exactly. But I think they've decided we want to pop.
We want sustainability. We want this stock to go up. It's a nice market. I've always been very critical of Pinterest.
I thought Pinterest was going to get squashed and made no sense. I was wrong. That's because they're, he's creative and they're not creative over there at Amazon. Yeah, but there's clearly someone with a business mind if they're figuring out where to go.
No, no, no, no. They're not creative with Google Amazon enough to create that. He's too, he's too creative. Then again, Snapchat got crushed, right?
Yeah. He's more creative than Zuckerberg ever could be and twice on Sunday. And it doesn't matter because they can replicate. But this thing, I don't think, I think Pinterest will not make sense in terms of its valuation out of the gates, but it'll, it'll make, it'll be less ridiculous than, for example, Lyft.
This company could be a profitable, any company near profitability growing 60% a year is worth looking at. It's slower than before. That's the only thing. There's a limit, right?
60% is still pretty gangster growing. Yeah, it's like 400 before. Anyway, it's interesting. So Airbnb plus when Airbnb backtracking is issued to Paul, the West Bank.
Oh boy, when I went home. But see, you're the CEO. They did it with immigration. He went out on a limb on immigration with a Super Bowl ad.
He's gone out on a limb on a lot of things. But what do you do? If you're advising him on that issue, what do you do? He'll make him for it.
He's like the others. He's got it hard. You know what I mean? He, you know, everything's not perfect.
Like anywhere else in Airbnb. But Brian Chesky's got, you know, I think it was hard in the right place. So I'd explain to the listeners, what's the whole issue about pulling, pulling listings on the West Bank because of activity. We created, oh God, it went bad so much.
They got killed on that pulling, pulling listings. And now they're putting back. But who knows what will happen now that Netanyahu seems to one and it's going to form a coalition. And he's going to annex it.
It's going to be just they've stuck themselves in like a millennial age crisis. It just feels to me like this is this is something they should have just pivoted and figured out a way to avoid the whole thing. Like why are we even talking about the West Bank and Airbnb? You know, they have apartments everywhere.
People want to go to the West Bank. You know, they were sued by a bunch of travelers who wanted to go, you know, it was that it was anti-religious. It was interesting. You know, there's always you're going to do one thing.
But I do like that he is willing to take, he's very eager to take political stands. And that's going to always catch up. There's no, you know, especially in some of these. And they didn't Charlottesville, that worked out.
Okay. Like he was, he was one of the first to like cut listings there for, for not quite nationalists. And that was a long time ago. So I kind of, I like the instinct.
I like, you know, he wants to run the company. He wants to run it. Yeah, I think, I think Airbnb is going to be the most valuable company that's private, right? I think it's the most valuable private company right now.
We just don't know it yet. Yeah, I agree. I kind of our metrics around IPOs going back to Pinterest. You want, you want explosive growth, you want network effects and ideally you want some sort of recurring revenue stream and Pinterest has two of those things.
60% is explosive growth. There are network effects and more people to pin pictures of their favorite dog leash, you know, it makes the platform more robust. It just doesn't, it doesn't have recurring revenue. It doesn't have the scale and targeting of a Facebook or Google.
But you're right. You could see, I don't know if Alibaba could do it for, for the phobic reasons. I don't know if the other guys can do it because of antitrust or concern. That's right.
That's right. That's right. That's the thing. So they sort of have to go to their own build a nice small business and then things get looser.
And it's going to get pretty expensive, pretty fast. But it's, look, good for them. I hope they get, they'll get out. I hope they get a big pop.
I like, I want, I am rooting for Pinterest. Yeah, I agree. I like, I like him. I like just, I like those are two people I really do enjoy talking to.
And it's a, it's actually, it's interesting to talk to them. I like to enjoy it. I actually enjoy talking to them. And they're very thoughtful.
Both of them are incredibly thoughtful. And again, not perfect, but they're certainly, they're certainly very thoughtful. So we're the life guys. I'm sorry they are.
So we're the Uber guys. But these, those two are particularly, and I like their designs. I think the reason the sites are so interesting is because they're interesting. So which sites do you think are interesting?
Interest in Airbnb. Yeah, they're both on a really nice job. I'm gonna say that to my Airbnb story. I'm just gonna kick out a faculty housing for listening to my place on Airbnb.
Oh, really? Yeah, that's against faculty. We're not allowed to list your place. I got a note saying we need to move out of faculty housing by our terms and services.
And that's me turning even. I did that. Oh, sorry. That's nice.
I'm literally, this is how bad faculty housing is. I'm hands down the coolest person in the entire building. It is just the, it is where literally where lame goes to die. It is like, okay, the widow of a 90 year old humanities professor who stacks his newspapers a mile high and has a fire hazard and then some Albanian grad student, which is, I'm sure is this thing.
Oh, you kidding? You walk into any building in New York and there's hot interesting people everywhere, except in my building. People look at me, they're like, Oh my God, he's so good looking. And look at his shoes.
Nobody says that anywhere but in my building. Oh my God, I am gangster cool. I'm in the Kardashians with Adidas in my building. Oh, I am so cool.
Who's really cool? I'm Sean Mendez in my building. We're going to take a quick break with Sean Mendez. He's so interesting.
He lives in 12. He runs. I'm a said Herndon and this is America, actually. We're all talking to each other to see what do we do wrong?
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We're back to our show, we've got Gaigo is fantasizing how cool he is in public housing, I guess, or in New York. It looks like public housing in New York. It's called it's called faculty housing. It's really hard to get into when we brag about it.
Yeah, we're drunk with exclusivity. We brag like we're a homeless shelter, turning on homeless. I had to slide into a dinner party with the president there. You're going to invite it to a dozen bucks.
You're literally shaming me right now. I said no, I said no, I said no, I said wins and losses. We're going to move on, win. Kenzie Bezos is now the third richest woman in the world.
Wow, what do you think of that? And he kept up, he kept all the voting shares, right? Yes, yes, you did. And so the question I mean only half is why didn't she get half?
Why did she get a third? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Kids are getting everything. That's what I'm guessing. Is that right? Yes, I don't think there was any acrometry.
Not publicly. They're way too smart. If there was, they would let it spill out early early days and they were so core, they were so lovely to each other. I can't believe it would generate into something.
That's nice. I hope not. I mean, it would be a surprise. Something big would happen.
And she's like, you have to start sending big pics out to strangers. Things happen. Something that would come in between their great relationship. We don't know what happened.
We have to go prove what happened. We used to deal. She's a class act and deserves all the bills. I heard that.
She's rich. I like it. It's the rain jobs. It's her.
It's the lady from L'Oreal who's like fabulously well asleep. Ruth Bethany Court. I didn't, I saw that list. I was like, oh.
So is Mackenzie going to go start by every media company in the world? No, no. I think that's the rain. That's the rain jobs.
Anyway, I wish them the best. Glad she's a billionaire. And now you realize if you and I make $50 million a year, it would only take us $1,900 years to match Bezos wealth. So he just lost a, he's now only worth what?
$110 billion on $150. Whatever. Just after the first billion who cares. Yeah, there you go.
I'm glad it's over. I'm glad it happened. Yeah, yeah. I think they handled it well.
It didn't like these things can generate. And I think that, you know, you see the wins. It's a win. She got a bunch of money to divorce.
No, I think it just was like, it could have been like so many divorces like so many. Oh, the way they're handling it. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I'm glad a woman has now $36 billion.
I'm good. Well, actually, I suppose there's more wealth control by women, but anyways, because I live longer. But anyways, my win is Apple and I'm going to try and go Profisorial here. So the algorithm for irrational shareholder returns in a World War II, the introduction of Google was to take an average product and create brand codes and create all these intangible associations around American, youthful, and print money.
And that requires brand management, thoughtful brand management. And in this series of these unbelievable companies, they were able to provide 10x better products to capital, created unbelievable brands, Google, Amazon, etc. But Apple is still the best brand in the world. And the reason they're the best brand in the world is they make very thoughtful brand management decisions.
And what they did recently, that I thought was just genius, was they did something we tried to introduce a brand strategy called Lattering, where they compare them. They not only look for their best feature to talk about, they look for the feature or their attribute, that immediately depositions the competition. And the thing that they have, makes someone else look back. Like, if you were to say, Hi, I'm Cara Swisher and I have great hair, you would be depositioning me.
That might not be your best feature, but immediately says, okay, we're done, game over, right? We're done. Hi, I'm the half that has great hair. So lattering is pretty important, right?
And they clearly lattered all the other tech companies. And they said, what do we have that they can't follow? We pull 70 data points a day from your phone. Android pulls 1000.
We have encryption. We refuse to give the phone to the terrorist of the FBI, which they should have in mind you. But anyways, so if you've seen their new ads, they're all about privacy. It's your phone.
It's your life. And it's genius. Although I have to say, I've heard some pushback on that by lots of tech executives and not just the ones that Facebook and Google in that they're that they pull all that money from Google, they get all that bill. It might be bullshit, but it's great.
I'm saying they're getting pushback. I heard I would agree. I think they're the most that's why using the most private phone, but that if they double down too much on it, they're going to be like, Hey, they're taking money here. They're taking money there.
Oh, they're setting themselves up for hypocrisy. But hypocrisy doesn't seem to get in the way of anyone's shareholder value these days. No, but I do think it's hard. It does think those things.
I interviewed the CTO Ford Motor Company recently and he was talking about that. He said the difficulty of dealing with internet, many Silicon Valley companies, and I think he's single to Apple. I was like, not that way. Was there a obsession with taking everyone's information and they're doing car stuff.
They're like, we think of not using people's information beyond this step. And so it's really it was a constant struggle between the Silicon Valley tech companies who want to use all the information and the car company who's like, Hey, this is trusted information. So anyways, interesting, it was interesting. I think Ford's done a pretty shitty job with the brand the last few years.
I agree, but I'm just saying this was an interest. I think a lot of companies are coming against and that have more regard for people's privacy or having some troubles with Silicon Valley. But anyways, my win, Apple, I still think it's the best brand of the world. And I think the brand managers there are really, really strong.
And they again, lattered the competition and said, this may not even be the best attribute, but it's the attribute that it's kind of deep position everybody else in. What is your fail? So my fail is I it's my fail from last week, but I was too imping and too scared to say it. My fail is an Nevada lawmaker, Lucy Flores.
Yeah, I think her airplane or accusation around Joseph Vice President Biden. I don't think she's forwarding the dialogue. Everyone says we're having an overdue conversation here. And I don't think that is a conversation.
I think it's an attack. Do you remember when Angela Merkel, when George Bush, Angela Merkel, gangster, probably the best leader of the last 50 years, anyways, do you remember when George Bush came up behind her and started revving her shoulders at a meeting and she went, Oh my God, and threw up her arms? I thought that was an entire, you don't remember that? That was an entirely, in my opinion, authentic and appropriate reaction.
And I think a lot of people, including our president learned from that that in that sort of setting. This is the other George Bush, which one? Yeah, W wasn't the dad. Come on.
No, no, no, no, no. That was when he was older David cop appeal, whatever. That wasn't that. This was at a G, I think a G8 meeting, a game of relishes.
Anyways, I thought that was, I thought that advanced that I thought there was a lot of public discourse in that event today when when when assembly woman or lawmaker Flores announces this this that she was upset by this a few days before the vice president is supposed to announce or not announced actively endorsing Sanders, her candidate, it doesn't feel like she's advancing the dialogue. It feels like she's using the cloud cover of this dialogue to attack somebody. And I think it's just total bullshit. You know, Nancy Pelosi, I've been doing a podcast with her this week.
Nancy Pelosi, I heard the house Nancy Pelosi, I only heard that about seven times. Here's the deal. Not to our listeners. They don't know you.
But I think what's interesting is that she said, look, here's the deal, do it like you have a cold or just do a strong like she just handled it. And then I thought that was what I thought she had about. There is there's two parts of it. One is mentioned here this because I have to tell you that has happened to me dozens of times.
And believe me, people shouldn't be touching care. So let me just ask you this though. Okay, affectionate work. So you've had inappropriate examples of affectionate work.
And I let me just I didn't want my shoulders. Okay. Okay, but let me ask you that's sexual either. Have you ever had expressions of affection at work that you were receptive to?
Yes. Okay, so what I would say is help us help us figure that gray area. And if you turn around and say, you know, dude, I just I'm not comfortable with my space. I don't like people.
That's that's kind of an overainer. That's sort of like the user's manual. That's like common sense one-on-one. But what I think is appropriate is to have a dialogue.
And I don't think it's appropriate to wait and go after people when they're kind of what I'll call vulnerable. She could have turned around and built up over years with women. And it's like, yeah, what's interesting is all the polling is showing that Biden is not suffering from it. There was a fascinating story in the New York Times about how the Twitter Democrats, the real Democrats, how they feel like they're not bothered by Biden.
They think things are too partisan. It was really interesting the differences. I disagree. And this goes into our predictions.
Okay. All right. Let's go to predictions to finish up here. So my first prediction is that ageism and sexism is about to take serious hold in the democratic primary field.
And we're about to see the poll numbers for Biden and Sanders plummet. Oh, all right. That's really off because I think the only reason they're up there is for name recognition. It was them and the seven dwarves and we're getting to know other people and we're finding that.
You know what, we just like him more than Uncle Joe. Have you moved on from Beto yet? You know what? I have another lover.
I am flirting with another candidate and I got Senator Bennett in the wings who I just think is so wonderful. So I got three. I got three loves, but here's the thing. The old guys were done.
The women candidates are 53. Okay, again, I'm afraid to say this, but I'm going to say it. If a woman runs and loses, you're not going to have a female president for 20 years. That's the reason why I come on Scott.
Okay. This is what we need. The gangster ticket is Beto or Mayor Pete and Kamala is VP. Why does she have a VDP?
Oh, I don't think she has so much more qualified. Give me a right. I think she's fantastic. I don't think she's as good on her feet as Beto or.
As a politician. Yeah. And guess what? That matters.
It's a very political office. Guess who could really actually run things better? I think she'd be great. She's very, she's very strong.
She's a prosecutor. Outstanding. Yeah, she's outstanding. She would be great.
I would love to see her. I'm like the guy who speaks 83 languages. And like, have you listened to him? I have my kids love him.
Oh my gosh. See, now you're looking. Did you look here? Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on. I'm a slut when it comes to politics. Beto is like that.
Your eyes are the I'm looking for. Pete. Beto is Pete light or Pete is Beto heavy. I don't know.
But did you hear him on was on PBS talking about being gay and he said, I didn't choose to be gay. I would have had this cut out of me. I did. This was not my choice.
And he was very open and emotional about it. And then he talked about the penses and he's like, do they really hate me? Do they really want to convert me? Yes.
It was very powerful. And the guy is oh, by the way, he drove Humvees around in Afghanistan. Very accessible. And he's kind of interesting.
You know how people like Alan and stuff like that is the same thing. He's very like people hear him in a way that's really my mother likes Pete. Oh, he's fantastic. Anyways, my prediction.