Muskism is the New Fordism w/ Ben Tarnoff & Quinn Slobodian

EPISODE · May 7, 2026 · 1H 5M

Muskism is the New Fordism w/ Ben Tarnoff & Quinn Slobodian

from Tech Won't Save Us · host Paris Marx

Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian to discuss their new book Muskism which explores how Elon Musk exemplifies a new economic system shaping our lives, similar to Fordism in the twentieth century. Ben Tarnoff & Quinn Slobodian are the authors of Muskism. Ben is a writer and technologist based in Massachusetts and the author of Internet for the People. Quinn is professor of international history at Boston University, and the author of books like Crack-Up Capitalism. Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon. The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Also mentioned in this episode: For listeners who are feeling extra academic, here is the Milton Friedman economics paper, “The Methodology of Positive Economics.” Quinn discusses his struggle to find any reporting on Jared Leto and the Optimus robot media stunt (that goes deeper than commenting on the virality).

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