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Navigating PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)

Episode 36 of the Edge of the Nest podcast, hosted by Cassie Wilcox & Erica Scheifflee, titled "Navigating PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)" was published on April 1, 2025 and runs 77 minutes.

April 1, 2025 ·77m · Edge of the Nest

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PDA is a concept still in its infancy in the United States. Otherwise known as Pathological Demand Avoidance, this behavior profile is often associated with autism and pervasively impacts a person’s ability to participate in meaningful everyday activities. The physiological experience becomes a powerful barrier—even in activities that a person wants to do. It’s not that a person won’t participate, it’s that they can’t. So how do we address PDA, and how do we make sure we are helping kids grow...

PDA is a concept still in its infancy in the United States. Otherwise known as Pathological Demand Avoidance, this behavior profile is often associated with autism and pervasively impacts a person’s ability to participate in meaningful everyday activities. The physiological experience becomes a powerful barrier—even in activities that a person wants to do. It’s not that a person won’t participate, it’s that they can’t. So how do we address PDA, and how do we make sure we are helping kids grow and develop all while honoring their “persistent demand for autonomy?” Join Erica, Cassie, and Teresa as we discuss:

  • How does PDA put a magnifying glass on what humanity overall needs?
  • The importance of asking ourselves why someone would have a pervasive or magnified need for autonomy.
  • How do we respond to the withdrawal, oppositional, or eruptive behaviors that a child exhibits as a “demand avoidant” reaction?
  • How do we begin communicating differently and foster “thrival”—not just survival— for PDA individuals?
  • The power of the “flow state.”

Next month we will cover the 4th episode in this 6-part series: Executive Function.

 

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