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It's going on all at once. It is absolute madness. I picked a terrible week to go on vacation. We picked a terrible week to go on vacation.
But, I mean, where do you want to start, PFT? Well, I just emotion not even acknowledge this is Friday yet. This is not a Friday yet for us based on what's just happened in the world of sports. Like, this is – all our best baseball players are no longer playing baseball for our bigger baseball teams.
That's the easiest way to say it. Obviously, like Chris Bryant, it looks like he's going to the Mets, right? Who knows? He's soaked in his last minutes at Wrigley today.
It's a foregone conclusion. I know it's going to happen. It is – it's – okay, so I've been thinking about it because I had a few hours to process this. There's the business side of baseball, which I fully understand.
And then there's the sentimental, your heart, the guys you root for, the guys you love that – and we've talked about it a million times. We are rational sports fans. A love for a player makes no sense, really, when you actually break it down. He's like, what do you care?
But I care, and you care. And watching Anthony Rizzo get traded to the Yankees and watching him take his last lap with his cute fucking dog, Kevin, around Wrigley and the Ivy, it broke me up. And it sucks. And I understand the baseball side of it because they need to trade guys when they don't know if they're going to be here at the end of the year and you've got to rebuild.
But goddamn, does it suck? Well, I don't think it's rational at all to be sentimental and emotional about baseball players, especially if you've – as guys, we don't show our emotions. It's pretty much a rule. Unless you're watching somebody sing the National Anthem, then you're allowed to cry.
Or if you're so mad that you throw something at your TV because of sports, those are really the only time that as guys we show our emotions. But when you see a player that wins a championship for your city, like Chris Bryant did, like Max Scherzer did, and you can see them also starting to get emotional when they achieve this great goal to bring home a World Series, and they seem to like the city that they're in, and they show you a little bit of that same emotion that you give to them back, you feel like you're not wasting your life by caring about sports so much. And so you share a moment with those guys, and it also reminds you of a moment in time of like, okay, I remember this postseason, how happy was the ups and the downs, the highs and the lows. And then you get jealous when they go and they put on another man's uniform, and they're playing for another team.
And you see other fans starting to root for them, and you're like, no, no, that's my guy. You can't – I feel like I'm getting tucked by another fan base. Like the entire city of L.A. getting Trey Turner and Max Scherzer.
It's a bad feeling, but I feel like they don't deserve them yet. They didn't go through the bad times with those guys. Well, so that's what it's more – I mean, obviously, the good times are the best, and you remember those. But like Anthony Rizzo, for me, he turned everything around.
And I had season tickets. I was sitting there – I went to 60 games in 2013, 14, when they're losing 100 games a year. And it's like he was the guy who started the turnaround. He was the catalyst.
He was the captain, even though he refused to put a C on his chest because the Ricketts are fucking losers. But those – it's the bad times to get to the good times. Those type of guys are there. I remember going to Chris Bryant Day.
I was so happy. I was so drunk. Marcelo Carl and I were in Wrigleyville in 2015, blacked out at like, I don't know, 11 a.m. on a Friday because Chris Bryant – I think he struck out four times.
I can't even remember. But like those moments to start bigger moments are what it's all about. And then, yeah, it sucks. It just sucks.
But I get the business side. I'm not going to sit here. I think it's foolish if you're like, oh, how can you trade those guys? Well, you know what would suck more is not trading them and having them walk in free agency and then having a really shitty product for a long time.
It's more just, you know, it just sucks. It just sucks. That's right. To quote like someone like Billy Football, I think he would have a quote like that.
Like, it just sucks. Straight up, bro, not having a good time. But if you look at it a different way, you can be like, okay, yeah, we're trading them. We're getting some pieces back.
Maybe 2022 is going to be sweet. No, pieces suck, man. In the moment, like, I don't care. I think you're going to the sweetness of 2022.
Yeah, no, I care. Like, oh, okay, cool. We got some pieces. But prospects in baseball are prospects.
And so like, obviously, in the coming months, I'll start, you know, getting to know these guys, start ingratiating them into my life. But like right now, it's like, who cares? That's a name that is not Anthony Rizzo. Like, you can't replace two 19-year-olds with Anthony Rizzo.
You just can't. So in the moment, I don't care. Like, I actually kind of hate, like, the instant, like, oh, man, we crushed this. Like, who the fuck knows?
Who knows? They're prospects. The guy who was drafted before Chris Bryant, Mark Appel, number one, won one overall, never pitched in the big leagues. You never know with these guys.
You do know with an Anthony Rizzo or Chris Bryant or Max Scherzer in a trade tournament. You know because you've seen it and they've done it. So that's the part that kind of hurts. Can I throw it real quick to Jake?
Jake, are you, does Anthony Rizzo have his pinstrips already? Because I've demanded that. Yeah, he has them also because he's a fellow Broward County guy. Shout out.
Okay. So we'll get into it. There you go. Okay.
I don't know. I don't know. What's his dog's name? Is his dog named anything related to the Yankees?
It's Kevin. His dog's Kevin, which is fucking an awesome dog for a dog named. For a wiener dog, to name your wiener dog Kevin. I think all dogs, they have better names if they're either named a human name or if they're named like a plural of a noun.
Like I met a dog named Biscuits one time and that dog became my best. He was like a pit bull with scars on his face, but he was awesome. I didn't care because he had the cutest name ever. Kevin is a solid name for a dog.
I actually, I'm going to throw this out there. You, Billy, named his, what did you name your dog after? Whitey? Whitey Floyd.
A race of white people. White Nationals? No, no, no. Richard Spencer.
Oh, I have like, so there's like, you name your dog after old people names that don't get used anymore. So like I had a great uncle named Whitey and that's just like not, so like Whitey Ford, Whitey Bulger. It's like a funny name for a dog. No, we got it.
Your dog's name is Whitey. Billy, I'm just going to throw this out there. If you love me and I think that we've come a long way in the last couple months, you will change your dog's name to Rizzo. Well, it's too late now.
No, it's not. He's not going to respond to Rizzo. You wouldn't like that because it would just be a reminder of what you've lost. Billy should just name his dog after the job that he eventually wants to have.
So like, kind of like how we were. Yeah. Yeah. PMP host or seal.
Just name it seal. Yeah. Yeah. Can I throw my dog out there now with Billy?
Yes. Yes, please. It's actually a perfect time, Liam. Okay.
So Billy about, I don't know, two weeks ago, just moved a block away from me and he went away for a couple of days and he paid an intern here to go watch his dog and never asked me. So I don't really know what to think about that. No, he thinks that you can't take care of him. I just want to know why.
I took one. I left for one night and it was a Tuesday night, which is a show night. I knew Liam would be editing. I didn't want to like make him come over to my house.
I knew that would just be annoying to ask, especially just moving in. Like, you don't just start asking for favors just immediately. I have a question, Billy, real quick. And we'll get back to sports in one second.
This intern that you paid to take care of your dog in the price that you paid, does that include the three lizards and the hedgehog? No. Okay. So they just had to like go fuck yourself, take care of yourself, boys.
They can, they can chill for a night. Okay. Wait, so you're just not feeding your frogs? No, you think you just leave them with a bunch of food.
Oh, got it. And your hedgehog? A bunch of food. Just leave them with a bunch of gold coins?
Yeah. Okay. All right. So back to what we were talking about.
Baseball trades. They suck. And yeah, it sucks. But whatever.
We move on. It's just a shitty day. Shitty day. I told everyone to please not ruin my vacation.
It's been ruined a million different ways, but that's okay. And if you're sitting here thinking that we're going to talk about QB situations in the NFL, I've made it very clear we're not going to talk about that until Sunday. I'll talk about everything else, but I'm not talking about QB. I'm still hoping some people will retire between now and Sunday.
That's all I'm going to say. Yeah. Yes. Did you see that they have him playing safety now in practice?
Perfect. He's like running scouting and wearing the red jersey. I don't know what they're going to do. The Texans, again, should just not play football this season.
Especially like putting Deshaun Watson, Rick Riley joke, Deshaun Watson at safety. Wow. He always struck me as more of a cover zero guy. Ooh.
Okay. All right. I'll give it a 2.2 balls. It was the boobs.
Yeah. Yeah. The boobs. Boobs.
I'm sorry. Balls. The balls. Balls on the brain.
Always. Okay. Let's talk about NBA. The NBA drafts happened tonight.
Shout out Kendrick Perkins to getting called up to the big desk. And he, I'm just going to say right now, he stole the show by, I think it was like the second pick, maybe. They threw it to him. And he was like, Jalen Green's going to be a great NBA player.
Just look at his suit. And I was like, yup. Perk. Thank you.
This is the analysis. Like, I don't give a fuck about you showing me a few highlight tapes and being like, he comes out to this guy. Because similar to the prospects in baseball, none of us know. Like, we have an idea.
Kane Cunningham's going to be good. I bet my life on it. But like everyone else, I don't know. So yeah.
If it's going to be like, hey, this guy wearing a cool suit or not, that's actually the analysis I want. I also like Jalen. I like the analysis of Jalen Green, but I like Kendrick Perkins a lot because he seems to have aged like 35 years in the last three years. And he's just like, he's like an old dude, but he's, I think like what, 40 years old, something like that.
But the coolest thing that he does, it's like a little life hack. If you can just use the word damn or hell in every sentence that you put out there on television, it still has that like old impact on my brain where I'm like, oh my God, they're cussing on the SBN. This guy's cool as shit. Where he's like, I don't know a damn thing about this guy, whatever the hell he's talking.
It's just like, he goes back and forth from damn in hell, like Ray Allen going back from the clit to, what else does he lick? It's from his penis to his, switching back and forth. From his penis to his tongue. Yeah, tongue to the clit.
Yes, but that's how he uses the words damn and hell. It's just, I always think it's pretty cool. I like, you can just say that like Jalen Green seems like the best prospect and people will think that you're smart about basketball because nobody watched any of the G League night games. So if you just say like, I watched a lot of film on Jalen Green, people would be like, yeah, this guy knows what he's talking about.
I am concerned with Cade Cunningham though. And it's not just because in the game that I really sat down and watched, he blew it in that one game that he had, but it's also because he's vegan. And that's, that to me, like if you're a vegan going into the NBA, like Jalen Green, he's probably going to lose weight over the course of his career. So I'm concerned about that.
And I'm also, I'm interested to hear what our resident nutritionist, Billy Football has to say about that. You can't trust a man made up of plant proteins. That's their ability and his mentality. Yeah.
Yeah. You tweeted that at me when I mentioned he's a vegan and you're absolutely right. I don't think, I think that's indisputable. I was a little kind of, I mean, he moved like one pick down from where everyone thought he was going to go, but I do think Jalen Suggs is really fucking good.
So that was a steal for the magic. Also, Woj just owns the world because it feels like every, like the NFL, everyone's so scared to tip picks. Woj told everyone what the first three picks were in the draft, which I, it wasn't exactly breaking. He just did it at like two o'clock.
He's just like, if this is exactly how it's going to go and it went exactly like that. And he's doing his little thing, you know, like this team is strongly, you know, strongly interested in them and then they get picked. So, um, it's weird. This is, I think I'm going to actually say it right now.
I think this is officially the last event that is going to be off schedule, which I'm very happy for this to be over with because it does feel weird that the NBA draft is happening this late during the Olympics, all that stuff. Like, I think this is it. I think we are finally back on schedule, boys. I think we did it.
I think this is it. Am I missing anything? I don't think so. Yeah.
I think this is officially, officially it where we finally, like the NBA season obviously went a lot deeper. The draft got pushed back, but now we're here and now it's over. We're back on a regular schedule where things happen at the regular time and we all can get our clocks synced up and it feels good because I was sick of it. I like having today have the NBA draft and like came out of nowhere for me.
It's like, what's going on? Everything's going on at the same time. So we've made it. We've made it, boys.
I just had one fun trivia question. So I've been keeping this one in the back pocket for the last hour or so. See if you can solve this riddle of the draft. How many Duke players have been drafted in the first round of the draft this year?
Okay. So I'm really happy you asked that because now are we saying Duke players that played at Duke or guys that said they might play Duke but then decided they'd rather get paid above the board by the G League and not have to deal with Coach K belittling them and taking away their jerseys and all that stuff? That's a good question. I'm going to go with the first definition.
So all things considered, if you didn't ever play at Duke, how many players do you think got drafted out of Duke this year? Zero right now. Zero as of right now. We're 17 picks in.
It's zero is the answer. Yeah. Wait, let me just double check. Yeah, still have 17.
Trey Murphy, he went to Duke. No, no, wait. He went, he was ACC, played at Virginia. And he's actually from Durham, North Carolina.
Oh, wow. Yeah, his mom went to UNC. Check out the interview on the bench file this week. Oh, nice plug.
Alpha male. So you have more guys from the city where that Duke's in that didn't go to Duke than actually played at Duke. Wow. How many guys his players are dodging the draft?
So zero Duke players in the lottery. How many guys in the lottery were on the bench file? Murphy was three picks off, so three. Three.
Wow. Okay, so are you guys the new, you're the new recruiting powerhouse in college basketball? I guess you have a point there, big time. Good to you.
They're smart. Yeah, there were twice as many players named Jalen that got drafted than even took a visit at Duke, probably, in the Spurs round of the draft. The only other thing I had off the draft was Josh Primo. I just, you can't lose with a guy named Primo.
That's such a great last name. So shout out to the Spurs. Way to go. And also the Spurs, how long, actually let me throw this out there, how long, because we're probably going to not win a gold, because whatever, fuck the Olympics, talk about it a second.
The Spurs have not been good in a few years. How long does it take until we start questioning Spurs picks instead of doing the thing? where we say oh it's a spurs pick it'll be great i feel like i'm already at that spot unless the player comes from different country if it's a player from like south america or eastern europe i'm like pop does it again great job that's kind of what we do with the patriots in the nfl draft it's like they get a running back in the third round that's like the fastest player ever to exist like wow how did this guy follow them so pop knows something if he's taking a player that i haven't really been able to watch any tape of yeah and uh the first international guy that was taken in the draft was josh giddy from australia uh really good guard really good at passing can't really shoot stop me if you heard that one before yeah does he don't really don't shut up ben simmons dude someone needs to fucking talk to ben simmons because he misses not doing the olympics because he's gonna work on his game we always joke about the guys who post the instagrams being like working on my game like look at me doing box jumps ben simmons is the one case where he should do that like just throw up one random instagram of you shooting threes it would do a lot for your image instead he's doing like instagram stories of him laying in a pool during the olympics of when he was supposed to be working on his game he hasn't done shit you don't even need to post a picture of you working out like post a picture of you walking into your psychiatrist's office post like at least do a photoshop of you sitting down across the room from dr melfie and be like really figure out some ways to get some stuff off my chest like get people talking about you know positively you could post a picture of you tying your shoes in what looks like a basketball setting and be like man he's putting in the work it's really anything besides just laying in a pool or i mean you can also take the option of just getting so blackout drunk every day that it starts to affect your short term memory and people even spin that into being like this okay he's hitting the reset button on his life right now this is good because yeah something has to change a bit since i actually was hoping that he was gonna go out to the lakers just to see how that dynamic would work who knows he's gonna get it right now but instead they got russell westbrick yeah so uh skipayles kingstay kings tweeted now the lakers have a backcourt of westbrick and laybrick a nightly airball display um i am just so excited for this this i don't it's gonna be awesome to watch it really is and i don't i'm not a westbrook hater there are a lot of westbrook haters he's probably like the most volatile you know either you love him love him or you despise him even though he puts up great stats i'm somewhere like i think he's good like i don't think you should diminish the fact that he's very good basketball yes he does kind of suck at shooting and yes he will do things at times where you're like what the hell's going on i guess if you're a laker fan you're just like well it's lebron's team so he'll at least fall in line there but there will definitely be some moments where westbrook will try to take over the game and lebron will just stand there exacerbated and uh it'll be great to watch great theater as they say oh i can't wait till the first night where he goes like five for 27 from the field and just keep shooting and see how lebron handles that for a sneak peek of what we're in store for next year i'd like to bring on a special guest this is this is skip bayless's initial reaction he made a video where he's just staring into his camera a message to lebron james from skip bayless he sounds like an evil supervillain no no no no um i actually think that that would make you feel good if you're a laker fan that skip bayless is so adamant that it's not gonna work well my only question is they might play basketball differently in los angeles so maybe you can help me out how many balls do they play with one basket that was gonna be my the only thing i thought maybe they had two it might work uh but yeah like i actually think i'm a dog on him yeah i don't hate when people go like here's the one thing i'm gonna say about russell westbrook it drives me nuts when people like rip him apart i get it i understand like there are times like i said there are times you're like what does this guy do russell westbrook fucking cares and he gives like a lot of effort and i think that i really do think that if you if you look at it as like it's lebron's team it's lebron's city it's lebron's everything he will make russell westbrook fall in line and that in itself should work like it should work i think it's kind of like it's the opposite i agree with you i love russell westbrook i'm a russell westbrook fan he has bad night shooting but he's an exciting player to watch especially when he just decides to go nuclear halfway through a game and just explodes on everybody i love russell westbrook i think he cares so much that he's gonna be the one that gets pissed off at lebron i think he's gonna see like a couple games in the middle of the season like lebron doing load management or whatever and russell westbrook is gonna get pissed off about that because he might not think that lebron wants to win as much as he does in which case we're gonna be in for a little like who's that man who's robin obviously it's gonna be lebron but russell westbrook i don't know if he's gonna be able to like work in a system where he's very clearly supposed to be the robin because he's a dog wait you want your son to be like russell westbrook oh yeah yeah i want my son okay i want him to sound like it yes yes uh i think actually the moment that you'll have first strife is when russell westbrook steals a rebound from anthony davis and lebron like when they're both going for a rebound russell westbrook comes flying in so he can keep getting his triple double that will be fun to watch as long as you still have caruso i've got faith in the team but it's gonna be it's gonna be fun to watch how those guys get along okay so uh moving on down the line u.s soccer dominant cutter go fuck yourself um that's it that's all i got yeah so i mean another gold cup domination the usa is at our back when we get to play in tournaments that we make up uh just so that we can put trophies in our empty trophy case like we dominated the league of confederations extraordinary cup or whatever that was a couple years ago or months ago when was that i feel like that was years ago so yeah we beat mexico for some hardware now we have to be mexico for more hardware uh i'm actually counting this as the finals pft so well yeah i mean like two more american rivals of guitar and the united states yeah it was rivalry week i love that they can like do this where it's like you have a continent playing for a tournament and then just random teams can basically pay their way in that was so i was talking about the other night in guitar which iron sharpens iron they're hosting the world cup so they essentially like we need to play in a bunch of tournaments so that we're better and that's they just like bought their way into the contact that doesn't sound like the fifa way yeah it's fucking awesome so wait maybe this is us doing guitar or cutter i think we need to figure out we need to all get on the same page as americans going into the world cup to figure out the correct way to pronounce it and then i'll go the opposite way because i'm sick of having both pronunciations be out there all the time is it cutter or guitar i go with cutter just because it's easier yeah but then they were saying guitar on here but hopefully if we invited them into our very elite prestigious gold cup tournament maybe they'll scratch our back a little bit with the world cup maybe we'll get some of that uh some of that good referee magic you know yes yes um all right and then we have the olympics uh i actually i saw a tweet that was so perfect it was like whoever decided that six six hours of swimming every four years is the perfect amount like credit to you because it's so true like that is the perfect amount of swimming that's exactly how much swimming i want to watch six hours every four years bring back the body suits that's all i want like remember they don't have the body suits anymore because in china in 2008 every single record got broken because people were wearing suits that like propelled them through the water at an unfair rate and so now there aren't any more world records being broken because no one could beat the fucking 2008 aquaman like costume records that they put up the torpedo remember the torpedo yeah yeah from australia he was a badass what i miss about this olympics is usually in swimming you get something extraordinarily weird that happens only every four years so sometimes you'll have everybody just decide to show up wearing a full body like latex gimp suit and then they all break world records other years you'll have people lining up ready to dive in and it looks like marv albert has just gone to town on their backs with all the red circles that are like on their shoulders the cuffing phenomenon a couple years ago but this year we don't really have any weird costume stuff going on and i miss that a little bit about the olympics it's just the dude caleb dressel who spells his name weirdly and has sick tattoos and i'll just say he's hot he's very hot he's a very attractive dude um and i'm proud that he's american i also had an idea i think synchronized swimming i was watching the other night i think you should be able to like you should get more points if you can add people so like if you can do a 10 person synchronized diving it was sorry synchronized diving if you do 10 people you should win like if you can get 10 people to do it why why are we stopping the two make it fucking three four five so then it's like all right you can be perfect with two or you can be 95 was seven that guy that team should win well i mean they should also get uh identical twins to be doing the synchronized diving i feel like that's an absolute no-brainer if your country has put them in the synchronized diving program as early as you possibly can because they're gonna have such a leg up even if they're off a little bit their physical similarities are gonna like cover that up a lot i also think that there should be a swimming event where it's like a 50 meter freestyle but it's eight people that can't swim and you just see who can who can figure out on the fly the best who can who drive if you drown your family gets the gold medal yeah yeah that's yeah you sacrifice yourself to the olympic spirit i also want to point out um so the new zealand rugby team they're the all blacks the basketball team they call themselves the tall blacks the badminton team calls themselves the black cocks oh nice nice just a little interesting fun little nugget yeah um okay and then simone biles should we i've had some time to process this i i'm opting out of all discussion about simone biles simply because there's like it's one of those discussions where it is either all the way on this side or all the way on that side and there's literally no like nuance or actual discussion being had and as soon as you see it happen and people start screaming at each other and you know it just becomes no one's actually having a conversation so i've opted out of all simone biles discussion because no one is actually trying to change each other's minds no one's having a discussion it is just how how much you can yell your side as loudly as possible yeah so this is one of those circumstances where like you don't we don't have to have an opinion on everything especially something that we have no idea about like we don't know what happened to her even all we know is like the after effects of her decision and what her decision was but nobody has any idea what was happening to her at the time like when kevin love talked to us on the show about his mental issues um he was explaining to us how if you have a mental uh health like an anxiety attack um it actually does manifest itself in physical you can see physical results and like physical symptoms of what you're going through which would make you unable to compete people applauded him when he took that break people applauded cc sabathia when he was in the middle of a world series chase i think it was before the playoffs started and he took time off to address his mental health we don't know what what was happening to her i just i heard somebody say that she got the twisties the twisties yes it's a horrible horrible thing like essentially you just lose where you are in space and time and like i was reading this article that uh some former gymnast says yeah oh yeah i had the twisties and i broke like my back because i just you get up in the air and a trick you've done a thousand times you all of a sudden don't know how to land it and then you like do an extra spin or something my bigger point is like small miles you know goes out of the competition if your first like very first reaction is either to say she's a quitter or to say that she's the most courageous like bestest goat of all time you just i don't know what to say because like nothing in life is like that you know what i mean there's some truth in all of these things like you just no one wants to like it just became so so polarizing so quickly it was actually one of the most polarizing things as fast as it happened it was so crazy how quickly it became either she is the greatest of all time and that was the most courageous thing she could ever done or she's the biggest square and she's a disgrace to usa which those people like dude if you care that much about the olympics give me a break like i joke about it but like dude could you tell me like what happened how we did the medal count in like the last 20 olympics like who the fuck cares honestly we won who cares yeah but in the winter olympics i still watch it i just don't care it's it's take culture big cat this is hot take culture that we've that we found ourselves in the middle credit to us i would like to say actually that this segment on some mobiles is probably the most courageous podcast segment regarding the it's most nuanced i would say we quit on it did we yeah just quit but big cat no i think that we were not in a proper headspace to be able to assess the situation correctly so we're actually getting more opportunities for others to make their takes have their takes get more shine resulting in a better hot take ecosystem for all so i think you could consider ourselves heroes to certain extent especially uh what you just did by explaining the twisties i did not know what the twisties were it sounds it sounds like i've lived my life in the twisties you just forget where you are in the air like malaysian air flight 370 yeah you know it was fucking that's kind of that's kind of fucked um but yeah the uh it is kind of fucked is that too soon i found it did it not get lost in space yeah are you still listening like that malaysian malaysian had the twisties and got lost in the air yes yes oh so you went double down on that joke yes yeah um yeah i read when i was reading about it i was like well this is something that's the other thing is let's just be honest like just just as honest as we possibly be about this whole situation anyone who commented right away knows nothing about gymnastics except for like a very very small percentage everyone else is just saying whatever the fuck they want to say just so they can be heard and it's like i don't know this sport i have no fucking idea what's going on i don't know if they were gonna win the gold i don't know if they were eliminated i don't know if she helped the team who the fuck you don't know so it's just crazy to have that severe of a reaction when you know nothing about this sport that you watch like for four hours every four years so the whole thing was insane i i also i do think that like i think it's part of the reaction that obviously lessened was the idea that she had withdrawn from the team competition was going to be an individual competition obviously she's not in either so it's like kind of an egg in everyone's face that was what they were standing on like the immediate reaction of oh but she's going to compete in the individuals no she's she's got some things that are going on right now and to call her a quitter is crazy so i don't know i just i was exhausted by the entire discourse and i wasn't even involved like i didn't have i didn't even put my toe into it i felt like i was dizzy i was getting dizzy from all the takes that were flying around to the point where like lenny dykstra had to take today he took some time out of showing up at the federal reserve and demanding to get his money out of their account in new york city for that's a whole other story we need to dive into but uh he said like i respect someone's decision like athletes know that sometimes you deal with mental issues and if you're trying to play a sport like i was like what lenny dykstra is bringing nuance to this conversation like what the hell is going i i i got i got the twisties in the conversation in the general debate around it i do think it's very funny that and this is this is the meatball in me i find i find humor and i'm not saying that i think like this but the instant reaction of a lot of people to be like well i remember when i was in fucking when i was 10 years old and i struck out four times and then i fucking got up there and hit a home on the fifth time and my parents said let me quit just a little bit different than what we're talking about just a little bit yeah sports and yeah competition i love competition i think i do think there should be more competition like in the world i think competition makes people better but yeah it might be a little bit different than like little johnny striking out in t-ball versus the fucking olympic goals and this and this gymnast who's doing shit that like you couldn't even do in a video game like you couldn't match the buttons fast enough to do in a video game let alone doing it in real life to a certain extent uh i don't want to say i like it but it is it's entertaining to be watching people break out those arguments of like what they did when they were in high school like on my high school hockey team i was a backup goalie and i came down with the flu and you know what i was puking my brains out but i still sat on the bench with my teammates as we won the state championship and i learned a lot about myself that day i love that i love everybody has deputized themselves as being uh espn pundits yes still one of the greatest callers of all time was at 670 score in chicago when derrick rose towards acl and he didn't get in the whole year after when he was like oh we'll come back and a guy called in was like i tore my acl and i was golfing 18 holes nine months later there it is point taken dude point taken like i i don't know what to say to that you're right derrick rose should be out there playing basketball in the nba right now it is crazy that right now we are on vacation and uh you know this whole show is on vacation so thanks again for being here to help us produce the show um but it is crazy that you're on vacation right now um with your kids and you're not practicing living you you management and one day you do want to be able to walk across the stage at their graduation um you should probably keep it in perspective like don't don't push yourself too hard okay yeah and listen if you want to talk about a real quitter in sports we're going to talk about aaron rogers on sunday i'll do a little i'll do a little i'll do a little teaser i my take on aaron rogers let's just say i think i'm on his side uh i think he's quitting on his marriage i think i'm on his side so we'll save that for sunday but just a little teaser i think justice for him like actually on his side not jokingly on his side i'm on his side there's one other thing i wanted to point out the chinese powerlifter the guy that weighed like 160 pounds and i think he clean jerked 435 pounds total psycho his instagram is a must follow you should check it out because all of his pictures are just him doing deadlifts and the caption on all his pictures are my balls are okay or my balls are fine with a sunglasses emoji as he's putting up like world record deadlifts just electric following on i mean that we will shout out his what's his instagram handle let me follow it i'll bring it while you find it um i'm just gonna set this up real quick we have a mount rushmore coming up you're gonna hear a voice in the mount rushmore that you probably don't recognize in this episode until this point it's because we taped it last sunday so um hank is there so it was 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approval www.mlsconsumeraccess.org what's his handle his handle is uh l-i-f-a-b-i-n 61 kg that's him right there absolutely my balls are fine perfect perfect all right let's get to our mount rushmore okay mount rushmore time uh we're going to do the mount rushmore of things that you yell at your tv while watching sports it's a good one this is a really good i actually think that we probably have at least five or six of the same options so i came aboard big list yeah me too there's some there's some very obvious ones on here but yeah very contentious it's gonna be okay so uh same way everyone gets a number and then closest number gets uh to decide the order okay oh wait okay all right let us run let us run then we'll guess it's a practice round it's a practice see what the machine's feeling i would guess 24 i was gonna guess 32 all right hank your guess um just number 50 60 jake and billy don't you fucking do it 69 i guess five that was a stupid guess i just realized that was really stupid i should have guessed 25 82 all right so what do you want the order to be boys jake and billy i think this is like you said going to be a popular one same pick so we'll go first okay and then where do you want to go you want to go hank and i'll come around sure all right so we'll wrap around the room all right here we go you suck oh negative first interesting was that your pick was that billy's that was actually on my list wow fell down we're going for the win here can that was one of the worst one one picks it's pretty bad like actually the worst you might say i'm going to say right now people say all the time yeah me jake oh yeah that's true but i i'm confident in saying and i no hate to you guys worst one one pick ever there are people yelling at their radios right now you suck you guys suck i don't think you understood the prompt no he didn't it was just that was a blown pick okay you guys just i will say whoo whoo i mean you can still make up for it but you don't think i don't have you suck on my list no no i've never yelled you suck at a team yeah yeah i think i would yell you motherfucker yeah before i yell you suck that's my brain okay okay that's like that's like a peak of your swearing so i got as far as you'll go okay uh i'm not a pander so i'm gonna go with my heart and the one thing i say most consistently when i watch games basketball obviously it's for basketball but i say it sometimes rather sports is a and one okay i love to just yell you yell it you yell it not even when we're near basketball yeah no it's just i love to say a one all right it's true that is i can i can absolutely test that if you ever even like i'm saying you do it when we're not near a basketball court but then when we are near a basketball court that's all you say yes yeah all right i'm shocked that this lasted to pick three easy one for me let's go okay anytime anything good happens let's go okay clap it up how many o's do you have on your list three okay yeah maybe i didn't understand the problem but uh okay so i'll go i have two um i mean easy first one for me is ball whenever there's a fumble streaming that at the tv and then uh my second pick will be uh i i always get now when we do the graphic can we actually say i say i yell watch out on the blind side whenever there's a quarterback about to get hit i yell watch out okay because you have to let them know that they're about to get hit all right that's pretty good yeah i just want that in parentheses it's for a quarterback because watch out makes no sense without context watch out to a quarterback about to get hit on the blind side i have a similar answer but it's oh okay i like that yeah you can it could be the same yeah yeah all right my second one is timeout okay i'm like five seconds ahead of a coach yeah i feel super smart i'm like why is he calling time out here call timeout timeout timeout yep okay hey i just want to get back to these guys to see what they're going to do because we're doing a great job uh i will go with picket that's when you're the team's on defense yeah similar to a1 i probably overuse it every time you know the opposing quarterback throws it before that you know anything happens you're just picket picket picket yep yep the welcome butler thing probably like put that in your brain for life like you can will players to have a big interception yep well i was in the concourse for that but sure yeah okay people forget billy billy's now taking control of the team um shoot yeah good job welcome to the draft that's a good pick now you want to specific you want to say specifically a sport or is that just it's multiple sports yeah yeah but well there's different well anything except football but i think that someone could now say uh specific shoot i don't want to yeah i think you could you could i think there's a very specific there is one specific shoot i'm thinking oh but it's the same for hockey answer that's correct no no no no no it's the same word so yes yeah but no but no but yes but there's one but it's the same word no but the same word has more words oh okay wait we get the second pick yeah okay all right that's you want that back shoot the puck yeah probably the more correct yes shoot the puck is what we were talking about so is that our official no you said puck's on net no no no our second overall shoot it shoot it you're making us pick something i thought no i said that shoot the puck is still on the board i think shoot and shoot the puck are two different things shoot the puck is still on the board because they took pucks on net yes yes just shoot just shoot period shoot that's yours yes okay right shoot the puck you're talking about basketball shoot the puck is unoriginal no shoot the puck is what you know when you're watching a hockey game and there's a power play okay okay whatever uh get in the hole okay okay do that tv yeah okay actually no i do like an iron it is a big in person as well i i'm realizing with my list i like to just like even though it never really happens i like to just always root for something to happen before like after the act occurs while they're shooting hitting a golf shot yep i like to say get in the hole you might not have to say and one even if it's not and one uh i like it pick it even if they're not gonna pick it yep uh i'm just trying to speak my ideal uh instance into existence got it i'm just gonna go with a nice simple clean god damn it okay anytime anything bad happens god damn it i don't think there's a better way of expressing disappointment while you're watching sports yeah that's that's good i i guess i'm more i'm trying to be more of a coach on the couch because my next two pick my two picks here right um slow down big time slow down guy when they're when when like you know you're watching a basketball game it's just fucking haywire everywhere slow down slow down slow down or if you need you know last shot or whatever and then oh this is tough i have a pander pick that i will save for honorable mentions or do you want me to say it right now i'm just gonna use it no i'm not gonna i'm gonna take it because it is a straight up i have one that's kind of a pander too i bet you we don't have to say it's probably i would be shocked if it was i'm just gonna say the pander this doesn't okay fine fine fine fine fine um just say it's my last one i want you to pander no no you want no no actually i'm totally moved on i'm not even looking at that part of my list you won't shut up you won't shut up i'm gonna pander i okay this is not my pander pick but i do love to yell and i think everyone loves yell ball don't lie yeah that's good that's good value yes ball don't lie um all like feels good especially because you've been wrong and now it's ball don't lie and you are showing that you know a little bit about the history of the end something that a basketball player would say right all right my last one my last one's gonna be shut the fuck up mark jackson that is a pander pick i mean it's true yeah you say it and you need it i don't know jim should have done that uh okay no can i say it push push i mean i've never said it to tv but people would definitely vote for it i don't know how much like how big of an audience do you think i think people would do it because that's all like people don't know f1 but they know we say push push this is a good mount rushmore voice yeah i feel like i'm definitely missing a couple but the one that i had on my list is just blitz yeah that's good scream out blitz yeah yeah are you saying blitz like you're calling out yeah yeah you're getting protection right to the offensive yeah you see it before yeah okay so i can't believe this one hasn't taken but just i'm gonna preface it with no i'm backing up here we made a path to do two and two right so this is my turn to take my second but i think because you suck was yours yeah i think this is redemption okay so i'm taking one for what for that respect you guys you're really building this up to be able to care about what we think so i'm surprised this one dropped so late in game but the classic okay uh i think three of us had really good yeah yeah i could go seven rounds yeah i have so many i can't put this one to get picked one of my favorite ones and maybe not everyone does but i love to yell and pass when you know it's play action that's fun when you're like you're helping out the team well along the same line flea flicker we flicker hurry up really good at that hurry up is the opposite obviously slow it down hurry up hurry up hurry up right at the end of the game without um come on come on uh go for it gotta yell go for it i had that guy on a fancy team yeah it's always a winner uh poison if you're a real football head on a punt uh-huh yeah i definitely yell that you don't yell that i'm a coach on the couch yeah i'm a coach on the couch or fire you call it you call fire yeah i had cash and wet on my list as well oh i like wet that was a good one bullshit get out yeah what about um yeah okay all for baseball that's gone yeah that's a miss yeah what about uh see ya there's no place for that in whatever sport you're watching after bad after 30 foul yep uh the no no no no yes shot in basketball that's a fun one yeah uh foul foul yeah could you one of you guys uh just for the graphic purposes like how are we gonna spell your last pick oh oh no no no it's one oh then then four ohs two h's no that's oh that's definitely one oh and like five h's yeah yeah i think if you're going oh it's got to be singular oh i'll let you guys figure it out this seems like a real meeting of the minds um what are you doing just a frustrated screaming what are you doing uh how about uh i fucking hate andrew siciliano yep i hope he gets hit by a bus i say not just for gossip for everything but i just say kick him off the floor all the time yeah you do just like any sport if anyone does anything wrong on the opposing team go go okay that guy's still around that's good he got it uh i don't think i have any anything else uh get him let's get him yeah you don't get him a lot yeah oh i yell at screen sometimes in basketball i'll yell like pick left pick right oh after an interception that gets deflected at the line of experience you have to yell tip drill let everybody know that you used to practice football after an interception house it yep to the house yep to the house house call yeah some variation of that doctor house oh i used this is very specific but i used to love whenever uh devin hester would return a kick and i just yell he's loose sometimes he wasn't it feels good it feels like he's got he's loose if he's you know yep if he's got something don't kick it to that guy yeah yeah that was good kick it out of bounds yeah also now would be a good time to fake it that's a little extended but i do like to just you know have my input there yeah or um uh kickers have one job or goddamn actually college kickers yeah that's a good one college kickers yeah all right are we do you guys gonna say uh the over's dead yeah you say that a lot yeah i do it's dead that's it like two minutes yeah no yeah but pretty much though you're over under counters on the second the game starts and it's it's always pacing down i could do a whole other mount rush more of just gambling reverse jinxes that i throw out there because i have that's pretty much the entire game i'm like well yeah thanks for coming out see ya these guys are dead no chance zero chance we're gonna blow it yeah billy uh we should do another noise well we literally that's the one noise everyone yells on all the i've never yelled oh oh what is it give us an example so what happens that makes you say oh we're watching the nickelodeon game and there was a super long touchdown everyone just jumps up he's like oh it's great yes what when malcolm butler intercepted russell wilson on the goal he was on course he didn't see it i literally ran inside oh you didn't see it no no that's why he did it that's why malcolm butler got that interception people think oh okay joe rogan when that dude got knocked out in that viral clip he's just like oh yeah just a dude being stoked okay yeah you're selling me on it everybody does that you're selling me on it slowly i still can't believe am i crazy well What else did you have? You suck.
1-1. I'm gonna start saying that now. I had... No, no, no, yes.
Shoot the puck. You suck. I think you should've... Shoot the puck is less of a...
Go ahead. What else? Foul. Foul's good.
These refs are terrible. But I respect them. Of course. And I could do better than him slash her.
Talking about a broadcaster. When have you said I could do better than her, Jake? When was the last time you said that one? I have not said either.
I'm saying the general sports fan. Oh, got it. I say everything that's on my head. Yeah, me too.
I literally sit there and just listen to the broadcaster. Alright. No, Jake, yours should've been like, this guy's really good. This guy went to Syracuse.
Fun fact. Actually, you pronounce his name this way. Those are yours. Oh, you guys are so mean.
You say that a lot too. Stop it. Don't make me choose. That's not gonna be my personal one.
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I will read it. I will like it if you've started to go to therapy with BetterHelp because you heard about this on podcast. I want to start, Craig, by saying sorry. I don't know if you caught wind that people blame me.
They said I jinxed you. I apologize. I'm still on the Craig Engels train. But yeah, you were in the Olympic trials.
You're an 800 meter, 1500 meter runner. Unfortunately, finished fourth. But we're really happy to have you on. Talk a little running.
Talk a little Olympics. Talk about your mustache and everything. Yeah, bro. Well, first off, I don't believe you cursed me, but some people were messaging me.
Yeah, thanks for having me on. Hopefully, you can learn some stuff about running. I don't know how much you know. Well, yeah, we don't know anything.
I mean, we know how to run. I know that running sucks. Yeah, running does suck. So yeah, I guess that would be my first question.
How much does running suck if you're really good at running like you? Marginally less than it sucks for you guys, I'm sure. I think at any level, running still sucks. And the worst part is it's the only sport I'm good at.
I wish I'm good at darts or literally anything else besides running. But unfortunately, this is what I'm stuck with. And try and make the best of it. But yeah, the only fun part about running is actually like racing.
Right. I would imagine you had the practices. Because you guys, even though you're 1500 meter, like how much, can you actually just break down what a regular week would look like for you when you're training? Yeah, yeah.
I try and run like 70 miles a week. There's some runners that run like 100 to 120 miles. And they train for the marathon. They're kind of crazy, though.
So yeah, and it's a typical week. I'll do like one long run, two workouts, and then run every other day. We do two lifts a week. I don't know if you can tell, but.
Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah, that's about it, man. It's just like I honestly work like an hour to an hour and a half a day.
And then I have to figure out what to do with the other 23 hours of my life. Uh-huh. Now, I've heard about runner's high. Is that real?
Because that's really the only way that you can convince me to try running. Is if you're like, okay, if you get to a certain point, then you feel like you're on drugs. Well, I live in Oregon, so a runner's high is a little different for me. But yeah, it doesn't happen.
I honestly don't know what the hell people are talking about when they say that. I've never experienced it. I think it's just runners trying to convince other people that running doesn't stop. So they're like, yeah, if you just run enough, you'll eventually get high.
It's like, no, I don't think so. I think it's just being tired. It's just like I'm exhausted, and I don't have any oxygen in my brain anymore. And my body wants to shut down.
You're like, oh, it totally weighs right now. It's pretty sick, yeah. I don't want to bring up bad memories, but I mean, we should at least talk about it. So that race, you finished fourth.
I thought, and I don't know anything about running. I was watching it. It was 1 a.m. on a Sunday night.
I thought that it was almost conspiracy to box you out and elbow you. It felt like they were trying to keep my man Craig Angles down. I really did believe that. And again, I don't know anything about running.
Dude, let's go with that conspiracy theory. But first off, thanks for staying up till 1 a.m. Yeah. I'm not quite sure what your typical bedtime is.
It was, we were recording the show, and someone happened to tweet me while I was climbing into bed. And they're like, hey, your guy's running in 10 minutes. And I was like, well, fuck yeah, I'm gonna watch. And then I just got mad.
I was mad. I didn't fall asleep for another hour. Because I was like, he got screwed. He got elbowed out.
No, dude. I honestly don't even know what happened. I did get boxed in, but it's my fault. I think I'm just like, I'm so dumb.
I've been running for 10 years and somehow still don't know how to not get boxed in. So explain that to us. Explain the thought process in a 1,500-meter race, like, positioning. And you guys do throw fucking elbows, right?
Yeah, bro. Not many. Not many elbows. I think people will complain.
It's not a very physical sport. But I don't know, man. Your brain shuts off until one lap to go. And then you're like, all right, this is go time.
It's survival instinct. I just got caught off guard from the defending Olympic champion. It took off, and I missed it. Because I was about to get it.
They didn't want to see you win. They did. It's a conspiracy theory, dude. Would you have Sha'Carri Richardson yourself if you had qualified?
That would have been it, dude. Game over for her. So you have probably the best hair out of any runner that I've ever seen. You've got the mullet working.
You have the mustache going on. I read on your Wikipedia page that you were elected. You won best hair in high school. So is this something like you've had the mullet for a long time?
Dude, did I win that? Who made up my Wikipedia page? I don't know. That's how we do research on the show.
It's 90% bullshit. No, I didn't do anything. I don't know, man. I went to Ole Miss, actually.
So we were down there. There's not much to do in Mississippi, believe it or not. We're like, let's make stupid haircuts, bro. So my teammate cut my hair, and I was like, I could grow a mustache.
Why not? Yeah, the mustache ties it together. I feel like if you had one or the other, it wouldn't work so well. But right now, it's like buffalo wings and blue cheese.
You've got a whole ensemble going on. It's beautiful. I think you need a mustache, if anything, then. I wish.
I'm face-balled. I can't do that. So I'll just live vicariously through yours. He puts it in the effort.
I just look like a child molester if I grow my mustache too much. Sure. A lot of weird looks. So how old are you?
Are you going to have another chance? Is your running career, have you thought, that far in advance? Yeah, bro. I'm 27.
And most people get real good at running when they're like 30. Really? Why is that? Yeah, so the Kenyan guy could be 45 in Norway, but there's a guy from Norway.
It's 19. That's crazy. So you do have another chance. You're going to have another chance.
Now, this might be a heavy question, but the thing that always is remarkable for Olympians to me is that you have to build up for four years, being like, here's the moment. And then the moment has to go right. So are you already thinking, like, four years from now, I'm going to do this? Like, this is, I'm going to get my redemption, because that will be an all-time story if you can punch your ticket to the Olympics in four years.
I guess, man. So in 2016, I was in college, and I actually got fourth there, too. So I don't know if it's a curse, but yeah, so it's only in three years now. So I waited five years, actually, for this one to redeem myself, and then I just blew it.
It all comes down to four minutes, you know? It's crazy. That is nuts. Three years from now.
Are you an alternate in some respects? Like, can we still hold on to a little bit of hope that if everything shakes out exactly perfectly, that you still might compete? There's a little bit of hope, but I kind of, I've been partying for the last four weeks. I like that.
The honesty there. You know what you should do? Okay, let's just write this one off. I feel like you could be, you could actually do what Forrest Gump did in that movie.
You seem like the kind of guy that would just, like, walk out of his front door and be like, I'm just going to start running, and just go cross-country, back and forth, back and forth. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I should take that as a compliment that I'm being compared to Forrest Gump. No, you should.
It's the greatest movie of all time. He's a great guy. Yeah, he is a great guy. You seem like a dude that's just, like, up for an adventure at any given time.
Hell yeah, dude. I mean, I'm down for anything, but running across the country sounds kind of boring. Yeah, that would suck. So wait, let's talk about- I want to come race to you guys.
I'll be in New York. Yeah. No, we're going to try to set that up because we owe the people a tandem bike ride, so we're not going to do that, but we're going to maybe race around a track. If we're on a tandem bike, and you're running, do you think that you can beat us?
100%. Really? 100%. You didn't let me finish.
It's a marathon. Okay, you're going to fall, like, 56 times. All of my bike riding experience is on a stationary bike, so that doesn't necessarily translate well to track life. Wait, what if we had solo bikes?
Could you still beat us? No way, dude. I'm not sure of your fitness, but- Not good. Okay.
The odds are a little bit more in my favor, but probably not. I think that we can beat him on a tandem bike. I think if we get cooking on a straightaway, he can't catch up with us. Yeah.
Yeah, I agree. We can hit a mile, dude. Okay. What's your fastest mile time?
I've run 351 so far. That's fucking insane! How fast do you think it's going to be the fastest anybody's ever going to be able to run a mile? Because at some point, you're not going to be able to get any faster, right?
No one's going to be able to run a mile in five seconds. So what do you think that speed is for the human race? It's what it is now, dude. The mile world record is 3 minutes and 44 seconds.
I think. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. The dude with the mile world record right now was so just up in the 1990s.
Like, drug testing. I mean, no one jokes anymore, but this dude was just literally coursing with steroids. I kind of like that. I think we should have world records for steroid users.
Like, we really should see how far- We should have regular world records, and then world records how far can the human body be pushed with help with steroids. Yeah, humans would just become like a horse. Yeah, huh? That's so cool.
Awesome. The Minotaur Olympics, I would watch that. Actually, I wanted to talk to you about that. But we- Gambling should be in, like, track, and they should do it exactly like horse racing.
And I bet you we'd have maybe a little bit more, like, exposure for the racing world. I mean, dude, you guys set it up. I'll be your- I'll be your, like, I don't know, the guy who sets the odds. Is that a thing?
Yeah, yeah. Yes, that is a thing. You're bookie. They're bookie, but I work for bar school.
Yes, and you set the odds. I like that. Do you ever- Do you wake up in the morning and know, like, I feel fast today? Oh, no.
Really? Not recently, dude. You know, like, I've been on a bender. We're gonna get back to Craig in just a second.
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And how many do you have? Do you only have one or do you have multiple? That makes me sound a little bit like a pedophile. Yeah, but that's okay.
Because I've seen the pictures. You look like a cool dude, not like a pedophile. A cool pedophile. Yeah, right, exactly.
Oh yeah, dude. That's perfect. No, dude, I don't know. I've been obsessed with RVs since I was a kid.
And now I finally have enough money to buy shitty ones. So I'll buy them and fix them up and then resell them. And that's what I do with the 23 hours of my day that I'm not running. Oh, that's sick.
So how many of you fix up? I think probably like 10 now. Maybe like 18 to 10. But the first one was when I was 18 years old in college.
That's awesome. You have one that you're working on right now? Yeah, it was the one that posted on NBC feed. It's an old F-250 with a camera in the back.
It's kind of sick. That's awesome. I was actually looking at buying a VW Westphalia van. You got money then, bro?
You got money? No, it was pretty cheap. It had like the stove and the bed and everything, the camping top in it. But then I found out that it was a manual transmission, not an automatic.
I don't really know how to drive stick. How much would that cost for you to turn that into an automatic? Oh, I can't do that, bro. You need a mechanic.
I'll make it look cool inside. But you just got to learn how to drive manual. It takes you a day. I'll come up there and teach you.
I know. I've done it before. But also, I just don't trust myself getting on the highway with a manual, you know? Especially in the city, man.
I don't know where you live, but... Yeah, New York City's not a great place to drive a stick for the first time. No, no. I actually learned on an RV, though.
My first RV was manual. I learned on that. It was terrifying, dude. Yeah, shit.
So, can you explain real quick the point system in running? Because that was the thing I struggled with after your race. Everyone kept on saying, no, no, Craig Engels might still make it. I was like, all right, I'm just going to hold out hope.
Like, it made no sense. I actually started reading about it, and we need to fix the running point system because it's a joke. You asked me if I could tell you about the point system? Yeah.
Absolutely not. Because it makes no sense, right? I truly have no idea how I even earned a point, dude. I just get out of there.
Like, I'm not a smart guy at all. That's why I prefer RVs and run. Left turns, bro. So, I'm not out there doing math.
I don't know. I was just like, all right, I've got to get top three, but I got fourth. Yeah. So, you just literally go out there and you're like, all right, I'm just going to start running fast.
And let the rest take care of itself. That seems like my thought process most of the time. Yeah. Is America going to win the 1500 or are we going to lose?
We're not, no. Someone put out betting odds and there's a Kenyan guy that's going to win it. Got it. So, if you had gone, obviously, it's a huge honor, but what would be your chances if you had gone?
I'd love to be coffee here and say, like, good chance of winning, but absolutely none. Okay. I'm there for a good time. Yeah.