Nerdy Up Nerdy Podcast - Reviews the strangers

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Hi everyone and welcome to the Nodie of North podcast. It's a nice podcast and it's hosted by Northern nerds. I am Monique Hossam. And I am the host Paul.

And tonight we are joined by a fabulous new guest tonight. We've got the lovely Ilve who has been a supporter of the Nodie of North Instagram to start with. And we managed to entice over to the Facebook page with our lovely memes and say and come and talk to us come and chat with us. But yes, she's been a follower and constant poster in the group for a number of years now.

So it's been a while. We've kept you there. And that's been one of those situations where we've been tempted to get you on the podcast and say we should get you on. And it's like right about the boat that we'll get it done.

So yes, tell us a little bit about yourself. Where do you start? Um, total horror. Obviously.

I mean, you've been following me for a while and seeing the sort of stuff that I get up to. I'm a very keen crop maker, not for anything apart from my own sanity and mental health. So I have a whole lot of stuff around my house that's a cost for alarm for a lot of people. Lots of good heads and kind of thing.

I mean, I should just point out I have made those. I have not collected them. They're made. And at the moment, Mike, and our big goal is to open up a horror cafe in Glasgow.

So that's kind of the, that's the end goal for me at the moment. So, so hopefully all this encyclopedia of gore and nonsense will be put to produce at some point professionally and not just. It is the dream for us many nerds to do what we love and get paid for it. So, uh, instead of paying for it, like what we seem to be doing a lot of.

Yes, exactly. But you do have a, you do have a cool Etsy shop as well. I bought a Frankenstein candle from you as well. That was quite cool.

Yes. Thank you for that. For a small business is very much appreciated. Yeah, I run practically magic and also one of the little.

A normal horror corner is coming up in Glasgow for the first time this year in September. I guess September 19th and I will be there for some really good guests and stuff. So any, any North North people. No, it's not much work.

Often we're having a more northern person than us on the podcast. I think you are the most northern person that we've had on the podcast as well. So that's really true. Yes.

So we can't, we can't even kind of be near you. North with when we're nearly in the Midlands compared to you. I'm never caught myself from the middle. Listen, I would hold against you.

Your grand. Anything. Anything. I am 52% Scottish.

If that is any consolation, I tell everyone by the way. If you, if you are Scottish, you're a bit Scottish. That's who we claim. So yes.

So tonight, as you know, we've got a horror note on the podcast tonight. So we thought we'd talk about a horror movie that Sammy hadn't seen until yesterday. I got a shock with very true. So Sammy, do you want to take your discated disclaimer out the way so we can get amongst the show.

Absolutely. So everything discussing today's episode is our opinions and it's our opinions alone. If you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, please come and join us on the Facebook page. It is called other comments section where we can have an up discussion.

But what we won't have is anyone coming for us and telling us our opinions are wrong. We can all agree to disagree in fandom. So let's keep it fun, keep a kind and keep the toxic behavior out of nerdism. Well said.

Very well said. Yes. Especially when we talk about horror movies as well. I think that disclaimer is quite prevalent because a lot of people do get on the high horse when it comes to horror.

And there can be a lot of gay, gay, and basically just people being general dicks when it comes to horror as well. It's the reason why it's said on every once in this episode followed by the extended version that has don't be a dick. I can't fall off down. I don't have the purple hair on his neck.

I feel like the little side kick today. So yes, the strangers. Now I remember seeing this in the cinema for the first time. Do you brave?

I know how scared you get it. Well, it's one of those films where it's not a gore fest or you don't get scared by the violence in the movie. It's more the anticipation, the fear and what's to worn out. But I had to sleep at least because I think at the time I saw it, I was living.

I remember having to sleep with a light on for a good few years. Just because if you're in the house by yourself, you heard any other rattling, any other noise, it kind of makes you think. But I'm quite interested to see when you guys first saw this one. So I know we're all Samis.

So when did you first say this movie? Well, it may surprise you given that I have a horror nut, but I'm not a huge fan of home intrusion horror. Because, like you say, any small noise, I'm not scared by very much, but people are so cliched. But if people can commit these atrocities, then we're not worried about checking a bed for monsters, right?

We're checking our doors and a lot to check our windows. We're turning off our GPS. So I only saw this finally last week, but I ended up going down a bit of a rabbit hole after watching it. I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I was going to.

It didn't scare me as much as I thought. But it was interesting. You said not a gore fest or it does tension incredibly well. Yes.

I'll give it. I will give it. One of the cool things that I know it's straight off the bat was there's not a single shot in the film that is steady. It's constantly moving and it's constantly just slightly too far away.

Like you can't quite see what's happening. There is a reason for that. The whole film is shot on handheld cameras. Yeah, that's for the steady camera.

And that's it. I thought that was extraordinary. Such a nice touch because I had to go and look up after I saw it because I thought, is that my imagination? Am I just a bit more jingling of POV here?

But that I really like to really build this kind of feeling of paranoia. I've been watched. So yeah, I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought it was going to. My initial worry was it was just another.

Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah. I agree completely because when you first see the reference to see the images, you think this is going to be just a cliche. Just stabbing slash.

Like jump scares all over the place. It doesn't quite work out again. The only thing that like again, I laughed at because I tried to find out some information when I first saw it years ago and I tried again this week because you get the start based on true events like any classic horror movie comes about the war bizarre that they use talk and dialogue at the beginning because it's not something that you hear in horror movies of today. This like within the last 10 to 15 years.

It gave me such Texas chainsaw vibes at the beginning. I was like, huh? Exactly. And then I saw the house.

And I was like, again, interesting. The houses that they show at the beginning are all very evocative. It's very like. I'm a TVill.

The single house. You know, it's a no doubt that it was done on purpose to make you think of these these homes, but not homes, some canny thing of familiar and the fact they used his childhood home unless I picked up wrong. Yeah, I had to work out because they don't directly say it at the beginning where they're at, but it's later on when the for the gun and he's like, where's your dad's going at? And the user's like the chart on the wall as well.

Yeah, the chart was what I was looking at. And as I said, at the start, when they're starting with the phone call, because you think, oh, is that that house where they're at or was it the previous, like, say, the house that these people had visited it. So you don't really know and it keeps you in the dark with that type of element. But I know Sammy's probably dying to get the taglines out because you're just looking at it.

Right, it's really good tagline. I love taglines of movies and I'm trying to find the best one at the moment. Nothing quite beats Batman. But this one kind of might sneak in there a little bit.

So it's, luckily, door pretend you are safe. We tell ourselves there's nothing to fear. But sometimes we are wrong. That's a really long time.

Some longer ones like a breakfast club. There's a whole fucking paragraph of them. Sometimes there are people sometimes there are not people. And the door.

What's behind it? Yeah, that was actually like it. I like the whole lock the door and pretend you're safe. Yeah, because that's what I do every time I lock the door.

I do pretend I'm safe. This film. It does add to that sort of Texas chainsaw thing again, whereas you don't really see or hear in movies anymore. So you don't really get that blurb at the beginning.

You know, I really miss the days of, well, this is 100% true. But Vincent Price movies. This whole theatre during and before it, sometimes after like the tingler. Experience fear and all this kind of stuff.

In real time. I instantly went to a house on haunted Hill and I'm Vincent Price. And the beginning, I did my monsters podcast day, plan 9 for out of space on Monday. And I did the open a monologue, which is Chris Wells monologue to the film, which is kind of the same thing.

Fucking terrible. It wasn't too bad, I've seen worse. I did make microphones. I give you brand A level performance on that one.

It was not GCSA there. It just meant the actual words themselves. The future is your future or something along those are terrible. But I do.

I love the aspect of the talk at the beginning of the prologue of the film. This is based on trip events, but it actually isn't. And it really did give us Texas vibes. So I was very much like Texas chainsaw is like one of my favourites.

I was like, yeah, kind of in this. It's cool. It is, as you said, with the Texas chainsaw masking, it's like a homage to it all the way through, except from it hasn't got the big. But if you look at the way that the horror works in this movie, because it's an assault on your senses.

It's more sounds. It's more the things that are not being said or looks. And that's because a lot of people think the Texas chainsaw masking is all about blood and guts. There's very little blood and there's very little violence actually in what you see in the Texas chainsaw mask.

It's what you don't see. It's like, oh, you hear him, like pull out the chainsaw, then it'll like the door closes or he'll grab someone or hit someone with a hammer. And then it's like all the noises and the most things I do get you quite. Intensified with the Texas chains masking is the women screaming because it's constantly screaming and constantly noise.

Well, this doesn't do it with screams. It's more like with the music where the pick the most irritating songs. And normally volumes as well, because normally with the soundtrack volume, the volume on the music is whacked up to the level where it makes you feel like uneasy and not comfortable. And even at the first not on the door.

That's not a normal not on the door. That's like someone hitting it with a hammer like a sledgehammer. The way it's like not ratatat. It's like an assault on everything that you feel and it never lets up.

And it kind of like doesn't give you a time to breathe where a lot of films or there'll be like a comedy element or a little joke element. Nothing nothing of that in this whatsoever. No, the opening scene itself on the driving in the car with nothing around it. Even when the sat at the traffic lighting there's no one there.

They're just waiting at that red light. It just completely shows you how alone they are. Yeah, they are completely. And it just in that one scene alone even regardless of the house situation, just the fact that they're going down that street.

There isn't nobody inside. There is not a car on the road. There is not a person. And I know it's like coming up to like four o'clock in the morning, but still it just gives you that indication that they are alone.

I know what I think really clever with the storytelling as well because the people could have went with a really lovely, dovey couple like having the best night of the life and then like doing a full fix. But with this, it's kind of like the the really bad place. Something's happened. The hint at what's happened all the way through, but they don't actually directly tell you what happened.

And kind of you kind of do. She says no and she just says because you talk about it when they're sitting at the table because you've got actually 15 minutes with these people before anything actually happens. And then sitting talking at the table and she goes, I'm just not ready for marriage yet. And she kind of like scoots the, scoots the ring right across the table to her and is like, oh, that's what he did tonight.

He proposed. Well, the thing is as well, and or selfish. Yeah. That was one of the comments I said when I was talking about it last night because we watched it again.

I was like, even though she said no, he's going on like a complete bellend. Like there was no need for that because she not once said that she didn't want to be with them or not once said that they were over or that the relationship was fine. She all she said she was wasn't ready. And that's her choice and that's what she's allowed to fail like that.

And for him to be the biggest, biggest baby about the situation, it really pissed us off. And it probably didn't annoy us as much when I watched it originally. But last night, it actually got us ready mad at him. I was like, you fucking dickhead.

There is a lot of things that really pissed me off about that character that in the end I generally did not give to Fox if he died or not. And the biggest, the biggest starting point is the cry baby form called her ex friend. I'm like, were you coming? I was in a child.

I turned out to be fucking Dennis. I was in my tits off. But to be further, it was going to be funny. No, no.

And that's probably why the turning point for you when the act did happen when Dennis didn't make it out with that room alive. And when he accidentally killed him, that's why you saying that you want him to die. I totally get that now because he killed Dennis. No, no, no.

I get that. There was some moments where I was like, you know what, Dennis, you could really flip the Dennis which he is walking around with that leg and still look like look on his face. Oh, he got totally a serial killer right now. And the chaos.

It would have been amazing. That scene was very predictable. You could see it coming out as it was happening. No, what really happened to me about this man was the gaslight needed when he turned.

And I very rarely understand gaslight. And I fucking got it last night when she turned around and said, someone's took me for anyone. No one's being in the house. The haven't took you for one.

It's like, hey, motherfucker, you haven't been going for a look where I was. I was so angry. And then he left her. He left her.

If that was the back divorce papers would be signed straight away. Well, no, the boss was just saying no. So it's fine. But the only thing again, not to say it was bad, like, right, no bad storytelling.

I think that didn't quite ring true is when I woke up in the morning, you've got a beautiful woman knocking on your door asking for someone, then say, see you later. No way is lived. How does go his girlfriend going to kick off with him and say, who's that bitch? Why are you not on my door?

Again, I would if I could have broken up on the door to him and said, and started, I'm going to see you later to Nick. I would like, what the fuck's going on? I think you're watching. You think I?

Yeah. The whole, like, I'm sorry. Dennis is coming around. We'll see what you've thought.

Frank, Frank's still in the camp couch still. I haven't got no yet. Just imagining. But in the couch.

Well, as you said, when I built up the tension, like everything that went through, like when he went away and left her in the house and I just walked them through the house. She got the ring stuck on her finger, which was hilarious. And again, that's where the tension kind of ramps up with the little, like, it's almost like a hot enough, a hot enough hill house where you spot in the ghost or spot in the face in the background. You're looking for things that might not be there or other than, then your imagination starts playing on it as well.

So it kind of ramps up and that's, you kind of making yourself get more wound up, not the film. And I thought that was quite interesting to you. That was great. I love when a filmmaker will leave you that space to fill in the blank yourself.

And I found quite a bit of it, especially those scenes where, what's really been a question, Chris is walking around in more or less silence. You've got this, you're listening intently, you're listening for every potential creek. You're, like you say, looking at the shadows and they leave these vast scenes open where she's standing. And you know, in a horror film, if there's a huge gap, you know, the bad guys coming in there.

But then you would come from there. And that was the terrifying part. The first time you see him standing behind her is like, kind of like, I have blurry vision to start with. I have to wear very focal.

So I'm kind of like squinting on his seat actually. But what it gave me was when you watch Hush, that kind of gave us that kind of feeling because she was completely oblivious. We are completely aware that this person is there and she is completely oblivious to it. And I'm screaming at a turnaround, bitch.

Turn around. You'll see what I can see. And I hear the fact that you're not feeling of not being able to talk directly to live Tyler. Yeah.

I know I have that. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, there's so many different elements to it though. What did you think about the masks when all three of the masks were kind of revealed or you kind of like saw them individually because you got the sackface first, then I think that one of the sackface that's on your way to take almost like the.

Yeah, I guess it's called different in the northeast. But the other thing was one was called Dol face, I believe. Then it was like the kind of the younger one, but she was almost like the ringleader of all three, like the blonde blonde girl she was kind of like the one that was instigating the terror or instigating like what was going on. But I remember saying they masks and even for like a little horror movie like this.

I don't think they get the due or get the credit they do because their looks are iconic. Oh yeah, that is the word I would use. It's so difficult to get one basket alone three to be instantly recognizable and iconic. And I think the three together just different enough.

And just blank enough that you can project your own. You're on to it because I mean what's skimmier than. That's a cool thing. It's a bad.

It's the dead eyes as well. That's the thing though you don't actually I never made out there eyes and I thought that was absolutely perfect. I understand what you mean when you said earlier about how you felt this could have been a slash a film. Masks always instantly go to the slash a genre and it's like that little twist to it.

Well, actually it's home invasion. I like that aspect. I I'm not going to lie back. I just get out of his foot.

I generally thought Dennis was one of them. Right. Sorry to name on the castle list and I was like, Oh, fuck yes, of course I can happen. It's going to be one of the bad guys and I was very disappointed when it wasn't.

Well, I thought that there might have been some kind of twist ready or not kind of storyline to it and that she has rejected him. She's humiliated him in the restaurant. So he's brother going to mess with her because you know, because you need him because he's there to protect you and kind of, you know, up the gas lighting is that little bit more into. Well, you should have just said yes, you know, because it's going to have to under the wires.

I like that. So I started to think there was a couple of kind of screen moments where he disappears and they arrive. Yeah. And he comes back and they're gone and you're like, Hmm, it's right.

Herring. Of course. Yeah. But now I'm talking about what's your next the Australian kind of one where the family was.

Yeah. Interesting. So the one thing I've kind of like in that day, we know shit. I do like that.

That would have been not bad. Don't get it from. I really love the aspect of the three individuals completely like they are the complex strangers. And I love I don't want to jump straight to the end and straight away.

But I'll talk to when we get about it like the ending. And but I really like that. Let's make up for them. Yeah.

I think it's the bleakness of it that makes it so scary. It's the fact that why are you doing this because you were home. Yeah. So simple.

So impactful. That's thing goes. It's not revenge. There's no motivation, which makes me think that it's likely mirroring the La Bianca tape murders.

So I mentioned Texas Chainsaw Massacre and all these films and all these novels that came out after the end game case. So you have cycle and you have sense of lambs, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it's very similar themes. But then you get these home invasion movies that kind of all came around, I suppose like late nineties, early 2000s that have a similar pattern. Yeah.

Like funny games and typing almost funny games is really a hundred percent. I wonder if it's taken from that. You just live in the wrong place at the wrong time. We were talking to a house and it happened to be yours.

Yeah. I remember there was an episode of Luther as well where one of the killers I think was season two, I've made the season two where he was doing a live stream of a street and he was literally just not on the doors and the person that opened the door was going to get that. So everybody was just going up a street like a normal street in London and then the place of watching and trying to work out which straight they're at like how to get there how quickly they get there. And you see he does have this like Luther scream at the tip don't fucking open the door like screaming like he's getting like so round up and someone comes to door and he's this guy in a mask to start stabbing away.

And it was kind of like that when I saw this and I watched that as well, like they both kind of led into the thing, but going back to the actual movie as well. Because we're going to touch it. One thing I did really love about this movie as well. Not one part of the victims get on top of the like say get the other hand, they were always not in control like the these three people like the strangers were in control for everything.

Like from start to finish and everything cleared out the way they wanted to play with like almost like clean with them as pets and kind of need them and push them into certain directions and got them where they wanted to be to the point where I was like fuck, like there was no way that these guys were ever going to get away. Yeah, the when she's in the shed scene was a perfect example because she could have quite easily done whatever it is she wanted to do in that time, but she quite casually took her time and lived time and just all gone out of there. What was that crawl by the way, I knew what she heard of us, what the fuck was that crawl also really annoyed us that she didn't put out shoes on really really she managed to get change out of her night dress and put normal clothes on in her head. She obviously knew something was going to go down.

Not even socks, not even socks, she fucking shoes on. Yeah, so that whole scene alone just proved how much control they had because she allowed her to leave she didn't escape she allowed her to get out of there and there's a lot of cases that they allowed them to move as well. Sorry my fire alarm is going off. We can't hear it.

I think like say there was a lot of stereotypical horror shops in there which throughout you can it wasn't to the James one levels shall we see it where I get trying to guess like by numbers. But there was very much scenes where you can telegraph this is going to happen. As I said, Dennis is very, I was probably not called Dennis but we'll call him Dennis. He's called Mikey.

That was telegraph to the tea that he was going to be shot by his friend. But even these friends irritate is with a gun because one thing that would have basically been scary to me like if I'm a psychopath and I'm coming at you even if you don't know how to use a gun if you point a gun at us, I'm not going to play it. I don't know how to use a gun. I don't know when he's done with his dad.

That's what I just told you. Another lie as well. Which did we ever find out why he lied about that? That's not the thing we go with now.

Why did you lie about hunting? And then it just glazed over. Is that a noit me? That didn't kind of love me in the moment.

What we've got is he's like, I don't know how to use this gun. Oh, actually hang on. I do. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a lot of things that could have done wrong. I don't could have done better. But as a whole, as as as they all said before, this is a simple like movie that could fucking happen.

And when you think about the long those lines, that is fucking terrifying. That is the scary. It's like in my head so many fucking times already. Someone's been in my house.

Definitely being in my house. I actually want to manage to convince myself. Actually, I scared myself. Not convincing myself.

I actually scared myself to the point where I had to go and sit and wait for my the door for my husband to finish work because I said to myself, what would happen. If someone walked past and touched your foot right now, what would you do? And you want to ask that question and I was like, oh, I don't actually know what I would do. And then I just kept thinking, Christ, I'm going to come and trust me.

But I had to go on sitting there and sit there and be the door for my husband to come and sit with myself too. I can quite easily scare myself without some fucking coming into my house. The last time, and I'll make this very quick, but the last time I felt like that was not from a film, it was from a documentary. And I felt really silly the next day, but it did stick with me.

I'm afraid to recommend the door for cats. It's like, yeah, it's really an internet sleuthing and like get the basket. She didn't actually mention any of the, the nitty gritty and really upset because it's the show for too much. Yeah.

I want to watch it. No, me and Sammy, we're very much happy. So we're like, yeah, we're cat parents. So my friend actually put on Facebook and fucking amazing documentary.

Absolutely love it. Sammy, this is not for you. I am not sure. You can't watch this, but I already knew about the guy to start with.

I heard about him when he first got arrested and I put it, obviously, in this was part of the whole what he did in order to get arrested and leading up to that. And I thought, no, don't want to give you my time at all. No, no, no. You can even advertise it like called Cheery.

Yeah, yeah. Catch this guy and anyway, yeah. That was a lot. I felt genuinely like I'm absolutely like, I'm actually late zone.

That has upset me so much. And yeah, I'm a bit three cats and be too. We're three cat family, yes. And all, as you said, with this movie with you, when you've seen it like last week, so I wonder what you're expecting or what your views on it would have been if you've seen it was originally released, would it still be the same or would just would have smoked out.

impact on me back then. Because I think as Ayl said, there was a few films I came out like the only one that jumps out that was quite similar came out around about the same time. It was well, depending on who you ask it's out of vacancy or no vacancy. Because I think the America was called no vacancy over here was called vacancy.

Where it was kind of like almost going to a hotel with snuff videos and stuff like that. So again, similar lines, but I don't think it had the kind of impact or the spooky factor that this one did. No, and I think when you've got the, I mean, home invasion is quite a broad category as well, because what makes it a home invasion movie doesn't have to be your home. In this case, since the strangers, it's not, it's childhood home that they're visiting.

You know, I would go to participate movies like don't breathe their home invasion, but it's flipped on its head. You know, I think I find seeing it younger, it probably would have, it would have disturbed me a bit more. My mind, I mean, I feel in the gaps, so Texas Chainsaw Massacre was far worse for me to watch than something I saw right at that time. Because I'll watch, I love a gore fest.

I love it. I love it. That's where you all, that's where your horror differs from mine in here, because we don't do gore. I'll do gore all day long because it's fake.

You know, I'll be sitting there going, what if I did that? You know, I'm trying to figure out which of my mind would go like that. I don't have any gallons of fake blood. I was like, is that all practical?

That's really cool. You know, it's something else that's sitting next to me. We should have got your on with you. We should have got your on with you.

I got the terrifying. I got terrifying art, the clown. Kids, kids, kids, kids. Are you missing?

Good films? No, you cannot say that. Kids tried to sell it really hard on that podcast, and bless our heart, you did shy. No, she really tried.

You know, I'm a big fan of a splat stick. So if you have a gore moment that's like a punchline, by a less nation, pretty much anything like Eli Roth as well. Yes. Again, not good films.

I don't like it, but it's not a good film. Yes. Fantastic. Shall we say it?

Yes. Yeah. No one's winning an Oscar for anything like that any time soon. No.

But that's my sense of humor. Yeah. But I can't do, I can't do cannibal movies at all. Even though, even though, Sansa Lambs is one of my favorite movies of all time, I fucking love it.

If you want to be a group, I'll write about it. He is listening. I'm going to eat you, but I'll do it for Tmanis. But the idea of cannibalism, it's the fact that that to me that's too real.

And that's what really breaks us out. And it makes like, we did a whole episode of Once's All Hand of Elector. And I think that's the entire time with my hands in my hoodie pocket, just pulling me hoodie down and I try not to throw up. So if you were caught in a disaster, you wouldn't be the first to suggest.

We put a little one. If we were caught in a disaster, I'm the first one dead. There's no one else to show. I didn't know survival is hearing.

So I just didn't know survival is to. Bontase for producers. But one thing I will give this movie as well, because this is why it intrigued me as well. I'll probably do a lot of it differently now without this conversation.

Because I do like the idea of him being involved in some part or in some way. I think that's a completeness opportunity. But when I was watching it, I did get a huge, like, paranormal, like supernatural, not like the TV show, but like a supernatural element to it. Where these were these could have been my ghostest the way they moved about.

Or not there. Because even when they were getting in the house, I don't think it was really explained how they were getting in and out of the house as well. They were just appearing in certain things. I know there was a hint of that one of the side doors was open.

Well, then they'll come through the back. When they went in the back, everything was locked up. Like the garage was locked up. There was no open doors or locks that was open.

It was kind of like they were just appearing or able to get in without having any effort. So it was quite an interesting. So when I first watched it, I almost thought it was going to end up like they were kind of like, I can speak to you, or they were like in other situations or others. Yeah, I can say, yeah, the other situation.

That's a really good point. I wouldn't think of that, but now that you've said it, when the knocking and the banging starts to really pick up, it sounds like it's coming from everywhere. That could have been an interesting kind of poltergeist angle. I would have felt so jipped off if it did turn out to be ghost at the end.

I love it. Don't get as wrong. I do a lot of supernatural, supernatural elements. But in this scenario, it was more scary to me that he would just flesh and blurge people.

Yeah. I would have if it had, don't get as wrong. Like I totally get where you make where you're coming from. But if that was the reveal at the end, we're just go.

I would have been like, fuck this. I'm not revealing this today. Yeah, I think I would have felt a bit cheap. Yes, I have.

Yeah, it's one of those ones you just hope it's not going in that direction. But I can see how it could. I could have played out with it. But I think that's where the film is a little bit clever than just the home invasion film.

It kind of insets a lot of different elements or little things that could be. I said it could be a slasher movie. It could be a supernatural movie. It could be like say a downer of gore fest and stuff because it could have went hard.

And the kind of didn't, everything was kind of played back and restrained. I think that would be a key word I would use when they're like watching this movie as well. That's how restrained they were. They kind of done little tees, little things like moving the smoke detector or even blocking the chimney.

So the smoke came in. That was a good element. That they didn't touch it or go back through anything as well. So it kind of didn't over explain or treat us as an audience as we were stupid.

And as we said before, it gives you that element, that freedom to think, to think, imagine and start letting your mind play games and say what is can be happening. And I do think that element works so well with this. I'm just laughing because I generally thought with a whole chimney thing, I didn't even put two and two together that they've blocked the chimney. I just thought you really shitted me again.

Fires since I've now been able to master the wood burner and building fires. I feel like I am the pro at it. All right. So I thought you really shit at me again.

Fire marshal now. But I didn't even put two and two together. That is such a clever touch that it would distract it in that way or use in the fire. Yeah, I thought it was like a smoker out situation, you know, so she couldn't get a mix of safety.

And it's a force to keep moving around so they can see her here, where she was at all times. Yeah. I wonder if the score, like, because they must have scored out the house. And I said, it must be, and the couldn't just end up all the time.

Because the new exactly where the bedroom was, the new exactly where like the hiding spots were. I know you can see a moving magic for a lot of things, but there's only so much like say, escapism, you can take and say, okay. It's a right and has to be like kind of take into account. So, and again, if you're going to do something as brutal and as well planned, because that's what it was, everything was well planned.

The new exactly where they can go or how far the stand to be, like move out of sight and where like to kind of go as well. And it's like, it's easy, good scares as well. Like one of the scariest things that you kind of say, what you don't see is when he's searching in the car for his phone and all you say is the hand and it's like slowly coming out like this. And then it kind of like tills the back of his neck and you see him completely freaking out.

And he jumps to the other side and all you hear is the footsteps running away. And it was like, but you don't see which direction or where they've gone. And that missed opportunity should have giggled. But how do you do that to somebody who's not giggled?

Yeah, it broke the tension. It would have broken that. Do you know what, at that point in the film, I thought, you know what, if it was me in that situation, we get into that point where he had just been freaked out and he knows fine well that her phone had just been fucking taken. I would be like, do you know what, I'm going to try any chances on for sure.

Yeah, I'm just going to go. I'm literally just going to run with some shoes on and see how far it is I get, because I'd rather take my chance out there than in there. But that's the thing. The kind of hinted up that they're in the house or the being in the house and stuff as well.

Why did they never try and make a break for it? I know the miles away and stuff like that. But surely you can try and get away. That's always been my thing.

If you're hungry down, fair enough, hung it down in one room, stay in the corner. Like wait for someone to come at you type thing. But it didn't quite do that. And again, I think it probably wouldn't be a boring in shit movie if they did do that.

Well, yeah, it ended pretty quickly. You just like, game over. I do like the fact that they didn't keep it in the house totally. That it did spill outside.

I do generally think it would have been a very short film if it was just kept within the confines of the house. So I do like the idea that I went outside. I just wish they actually just ran. But I mean, just go just see how far it is you get the ending with the kids.

Clearly there's people in there. So you want to get into a house somewhere? Regardless, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be walking in the morning. This all starts.

How long has it appeared to get to fucking daylight? I just kept looking at me watch for it. It really feels like it's a long time before I get to daylight. And by the time the thought actually left me mouth, the sun came up.

Yeah. I was like, oh, OK. So talk about that. It was taking forever.

So talk about the ending as well. Because to me, this was one of the more shotting parts of the movie. It was quite intense. And I don't know what you've talked about.

Like mentioned the movie before. It was very funny games with the whole kind of reveal, but not reveal as well. It was quite interesting that when they've got them both tied to the chair and both of them get the reaction like, why are you doing this to us because you're home? But then they take the masks off and I do that kind of reveal, but don't show anything to the camera.

What? Like, what do you think the meaning was? Or was it with a purpose for that as well? Cause I know Sammy's got an old proud dutch as well.

He's got the North. Yeah. It's something I have not as far as. It's how I felt when I was watching it.

I really thought it was so fucking clever that we don't get to see their faces, but they do. And that immediately says to me, oh, you're dead. Yeah. Because they've given up the game now.

You've seen them. Yeah. There's no need for them anymore. There's no need for it.

And I never see it. No. And I thought that was so clever how we didn't get to see their faces as at all, which is why I don't think that I saw their eyes. Like I don't think I saw anything you could do with them.

And I love that aspect of it. That was more terrifying for me than the actual well you would just want statement. And I was like, oh shit, this is it. And how slow it took it.

Yeah. That was because normally like in the likes of horror, it's rage. It's, you know, it's fast. It's quick.

This was my first. No. That was fucking slow and that would hurt like a bitch. Yeah.

And how the talk turns as well. It was almost. Yeah. Your turn, tag your wrist.

Yeah. I find it interesting that the line that said it'll be easier next time. Yeah. And I thought it was pretty easy this time.

How many times have you done this? Because you seem to, you got a pretty good system going. You communicate without speaking. You kind of know what the plan is.

You're creating a pincer effect so they can't leave. That's a group of people who have experienced in this. So how many, how many more deaths are they responsible for? That makes me wonder about how long it's been going on and what's their end goal?

Yeah. There's so many questions that never got answered for this movie as well. I know there was a sequel, which please do not go and watch. I got for that.

I thought I was going mad when I kept typing in the strangers on the corner on me laptop. They kept coming up with one and then they had another title next to it. And I was like, what the shit is that? Like, I don't know about this one.

It's like three of the nights. I think it's called or something. I think something along those lines, but it's kind of like the same characters, but they're in some kind of like caravan park and stuff like that. It doesn't have the same quite of effect just simply because the caravan park.

I'm glad you said it's a caravan. It's not quite tense. Yeah, it's kind of like attacking them in this like whole area where they're running around and like the victims get the better of them for a little while. And like certain elements where it's kind of like doesn't have the intensity, it goes out and it's a basic issue last movie.

Made a sequel that is a slash a movie. I know there is a remake on that one. It's a different thing that's good about the original. We'll just double that.

Yeah, there is a remake of this. We are getting a remake trilogy soon. What? Yeah.

Who's doing it? I don't know who's directing, but it's called The Strangers Chapter One. Oh, that's what I saw. That's what I thought.

So that's that. That's the new movie. That's basically the new one that comes out next month, I believe. So there's going to be a trilogy of movies.

So I don't know if they're going to go like before this movie, like show like them becoming The Strangers, then like perfect in the art, and then probably the last one, The Ending of The Strangers. But yeah, I love a horror movie where you don't get a happy ending. Again, I know it doesn't spoil it because it leaves it open and she has a big meme actress where when the kids go into the house and see the bodies and live tired, they kind of wakes up. It's kind of like, again, not use the word, but it's quite clear she has like a cop out.

That's what it kind of felt because, as Sammy said, they've seen the faces, the brutality and the sheer aggression of the stabs as well, because the slow, like, I think the only slow stab I've seen is in The City of the Private Ryan, where he's like slowly going in. But I think the only way they got away with that type of violence is because of how little blood and how little violence was through the rest of the film. So I don't think they would have got away with it because the criminal studios or like, senses are quite stringent when it comes to like that type of violence, because it's not nice. It's too real at the same time.

Because if you went and stab someone, it's not going to be like, you would go, like, it probably would be like, that could be the nerves and the fear. And like, you would be like, even though you wanted it, your body would actually be reacting and trying to stop you from stabbing. And that's what it felt like. It was quite visceral at times, but it was quite uncomfortable to watch as well.

Yeah, we just described that there. My stomach's just done a compliment. It's just flipped on its ass. And oh, God, and he is the idea of that.

That's really what you guys run. There is some really scary elements in this movie, especially like there was some tense moments where I was having to grab my husband's hand. He, by the way, did not like this whatsoever. But I was like holding his hand because I call shitwares, it's going to go.

I don't know. So the moments that ended, I've not seen a killer in a long time. It'd be so thought out. It'd be so polite.

It was very polite in the way that they did it, especially with how they kept hands in the knife to each other and, you know, sorting it about. And it was a different kill that I've seen that I'm used to. That kind of like, oh, I don't know what I feel like this, but I do like this. But I don't really know.

Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like they're getting a bit. Yeah, because they didn't seem to be getting pleasure out of that element.

Because like, there was no excitement. I would use the word trepidation. That's what it felt like. They were quite hesitant.

And that almost made it a little bit more scary at the same time. It's like, they didn't know what they're doing. Oh, they're doing it though. I really enjoy it.

They just savor in the moment. It felt ritualistic. Yes. More than a frenzied attack.

Like, this is, we've now come to the end of this. We're taking turns. It was quite methodical. But yeah, it's also been very thoughtful and purposeful, which is not something I recall seeing on screen before, to create something that's not overtly ritualistic.

Yeah. That's such a good word to use. Because the whole thing does feel like a ritual. The whole take of the mask, the all new one, to take them off at the same time.

It's not like they kind of looked around at each other and went, and now the all just naturally did it. And ritual is the perfect word for the end of that movie. And especially the way that they killed them. I do agree that they live Tyler's screen walking cop out.

To have such a big new style like that, what can kill her? Yeah. Just kill it. Just end it right there.

And then, you know, there were some moments in that. I generally didn't know that was the titular. Mm-hmm. She was very meek at the start.

It's like the way she spoke as well, through other things. She didn't speak. She was listening. Yeah.

And then the screen that comes out her, I was so shocked and impressed. Like, yeah, so used to her, you know, in Lord of the Rings, this soft, breathy way of speaking. It's not a big topic. Oh, we're not something like that.