Well, live, I, everyone, and welcome to the Nelly of North Podcast. It's a Nelly Podcast and it's posted by Northern nerds. I am one of your hosts, Sam. And I'm the other host, Paul.
And tonight we are joined by the deviant himself, the daddy of the Discord. The pervert that goes by the name of Lee, the Goodwill lover or just snorkerer or just busy Goodwill fiend, shall we say? Hello Lee. Hello, I'm never getting away from this daddy thing, but I don't know where the pervert's gone.
I should have had a busy thing in daddy cool, not something like that coming on now. Daddy, daddy Lee. So hello home control coming in, I guess, in one sentence. So yes, so yes, today has been a little bit stressful to me.
I put them together this new thing and we left off decided it didn't want to work. So we need to have an counterpart past today. So yes. Well, thank you to the computer heavens.
We are here. I am in my living room because I am literally watching kittens. Yes. So yes, and that's why Sam is a bit great because you can't have the proper lighting and she's a bit of a deviant.
I'm not looking pasty. I'm not looking white. I need to have a filter. She actually said, can you put a filter on me?
Guys, this is the level Sami has got to. This is what podcast in the beginning three years is done. I saw how red I looked and I can still see it in the bow of Paul Kang. I did say can you put a filter on this?
The devourish behaviours I've heard. Graham last week, beaten Goodwill. Sami this week, one in the filler and Pouillie who's just sitting there being quiet being the daddy discord and everyone in the chat has just raving about how much of a daddy you are for me. So yes.
Well, you'll have to keep us updated on the chat. Hello everyone in the chat because I can't actually see it tonight. I have a really important question to ask both of you. Really important.
I feel, you know, it just feels like a lifetime ago since I asked it. I can't remember. I asked it last week, but I didn't even answer it. I didn't even answer it.
Go on. Last week was a blur. It was very warm this week. Honestly, I'm sitting in the same room we recorded and it's not fucking different.
It's no better. I am absolutely roasting. But how are you doing? What you've been watching?
I let legal first. Let's get the guest be special. I'm still stuck watching one piece of the boat. There'll be 750 episodes in now.
Bloody hell. Just waiting for the live action. Come on next week. Oh, yes.
We're being wondering when I think I've asked the question, Lee pops into the chances. It's the end of September. I was asking, I'll give him a watch with him. I'll watch it.
Beth is asking how are the kittens in the chat? They want to know if they're on the kitten's side. The kittens are doing really well. The setlin in lovely.
Things have just grown more confident as time goes on. We've literally had them for 20 years. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. Beth is asking how are the kittens in the chat. They want to know if they're on the kitten's side. They want to know.
They want to know if they're on the kitten's side. They want to know whether or not they're on the kitten's side. They want to know if they're on the kitten's side. Which they want to know if they're on the kitten's side.
I've had a very long time ago when we were telling them that little shit was going to end. We were really excited about that. No. That was just one of the Kevin Castle.
I mean, it's one of the most intelligent people from the rest of the day. But if you want to know, I'm not sure, you're not sure how to go to vid or is it the most expensive son of a day. It's something like that. It's the most expensive son of a day.
I'm trying to think of what I've been watching. I've been watching that Matthew Broderick about Oxycontin on Netflix. It is a very hard, difficult watch, but it is very well done. I'm half through that.
The strange thing I have been watching as well, I have the hazcomb out where a new season of Native and Afraid, this time it's a competition where it's the last man standing, you get £100,000 for the surviving in South Africa, and there's one guy who's called Jeff who's been a complete bellend, but not as well as everyone watching, it's just a nigga people in the wild surviving. Yeah. Oh, that sounds a lot of fun. We started at Good Omens.
We're only two episodes in. I don't think it's something that I want to binge watch, so I'm kind of taking my time with it, but there's one thing that I've watched that I completely forgot to tell you about was the American Gladied is... Oh, right. Yes, I watched that a few weeks ago.
I fucking loved it. Not one of them came across as an asshole, not one of them. The guy who, oh God, he was an actor. I can't think of what his name is.
He was very animated in it. I thought he was just such a sweetheart. I really enjoyed it. It was basically just species, steroids and big mostly men getting through on concrete, nor had concrete.
Yeah, literal concrete. And I love the fact that they knew their worth in the end. They finally figured out their worth, and I really respected them for that, but generally all of them did not have a bad word to say about any other person. That's why I'm in Goodwill, can never be a partner.
That's why it'll always be fondness from afar. See that, he probably doesn't even fancy his anymore, I know I've lost my bee, so it's fine. You will always be on his heart necklace. Why, I'm going to try and seduce the Goodwill, because he thinks he likes Mary.
I swear to godly, if you get on that necklace before me, you can fuck me in hell. It's going to be getting bigger, no I think. I'll probably not. I'm not having watched any greener since about a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know if I've fallen off it. I'm just something I'll go back to. I'm watching Big Bang again as well. He just on that journey does never stop.
It never stops, never ever stops with us. Apart from Good Almonds, that's really, and obviously the movie of today, that's all I've watched. Just to see, this is the first time Sam has seen this absolute classic, which is a crime against humanity, shall we see? I've committed many when it comes to pop culture, but I do feel after speaking with my husband and speaking to one of my best friends, and maybe yes, I have committed a bit of a pop culture crime bigger than any other one.
It's always never been trying to jump on when she heard that we were talking about this tonight. I'm surprised as well, because she has been telling us how much that husband's favourite film. So she has been telling us all about that. Scott wants to make sure I get his gripes into this.
It's only one and it's hilarious. I know we've talked a lot on this episode so far as well, and we've probably got mentioned a lot throughout. He is kind of like the ass nuggets hit a lot. I do want to give him a congratulations for last night's trekking episode.
It was an absolute masterpiece and well done, goodwill, and absolutely, you guys smashed it with the viewing figures and with everything that you've done. So well done, goodwill. Give yourself a pat in the back, you change your feed. Well done, well done, well done.
It really, really makes me want to work even harder. Thank you, my girls. Not really. You've set the bar too high for us.
It really is. It's not serious. Last night when I joined in, I really didn't know what was being spoken about because I haven't watched it, but it didn't matter. The time that I see it there, it was, you could tell that that was such a community gathering.
It was, it was beautiful to watch. It was lovely. I thoroughly enjoyed the time I was there. I just had to go because I had kitties running all over the place.
Hopefully we can steal a few of them as well. So if you're watching, we want to stay with you. We want to stay with you. Yes, and when, and most of this is on Monday.
We know what most of this is coming. Don't worry. You can tell what I feel like. And you can even warn me, most of this is Tisha at the day, just to make sure that no one's going to be able to see it.
No, I know watching tomorrow at a principal. I don't watch it for down anywhere. It does fit in lovely with this week's theme though. Yes.
Normally, it didn't actually, we didn't actually plan it. It was quite funny. So, do you want to get this claim out the way? Sorry.
I can do that. So, everything discussed in today's episode is our opinions and our opinions alone. If you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, please come and join us on the Facebook group or the comment section. Oh my god, I've totally forgotten it.
We've all agreed to disagree and fandoms. Let's keep it fun and give a kind and keep it out of nerdism. Just to say, the reason I stopped myself is because I remember last week I missed a massive chunk out and I was saying to me, hey, don't miss it out again. Don't miss it out.
And then I was like, oh, I forget what comes next. But I feel like I've got the main point out the way with. That's fine. You can tell us just you're doing pre-recorded stuff now.
Now this live stuff is here. It's like, pulling the bar. Can't see a poll. Cut this bit out now.
If you've noticed last week on the Tom Sefini episode, when Dan says, and now time for the video, you will watch my ass drop because I didn't know we were going to do that. And I was like, oh my god, I'm not three one tall. Oh my god, what do I do? But it turned out fine.
It turned out great. It was such a good episode. It's such a good edit. Thank you very much.
Yes, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Actually, Paul's here to the earth once again.
Once again, I'll save you. So yes. So the next episode is about the masterpiece, the 1980, 20, 86 cult classic, because it did bomb when it first came out. Big trouble in Little China by, like, say, the master of his craft John Carpenter, who did Halloween, he did the thing.
He did a lot of other things there. They lived as well with Freddie Riley. There's Van Payers, which is sorry. It's one of the greatest Van Pay movies I've ever made.
Yes. And luckily for you, lovely fellow people who watch us, Wig and Wig out the user getting the Kirk Russell double, double bill, the sexiest man from any area. And the first ever Santa Claus actually did turn me as well. So, at least thinking about Danny's big blonde.
But yes, big trouble in Little China saw did you just like the movie. Yes. It's an amazing movie, but it's just so weird. It's not a right movie.
You could make this movie did you? Well, I know we don't deal in factoids on a Sunday night, but I did go and have a little bit of few things. And I found an article from the 6th of January, 2023, where James Wan and Patrick Wilson want to make a big trouble in Little China. No, it's been a few years.
Like, there was a room a few years ago that the rock was going to be in the Jack Burton role. Wow. No, that was one of the things that meant to be sequels that was coming about. I think this is one of those ones that doesn't need special effects.
It wouldn't you wouldn't gain anything. All the practical stuff that is there. And it was done at the time, like I said, 1980s where they'll meet on these risks, meet on these movies. And there has been a few copycats down the O's.
Like say Eddie Murphy's Golden Child is a prime example of this. But as a whole, it's just a fun fucking movie from start to finish is just entertaining. Like you watch it, your eyes don't know you're telling? It really is because it's not the beginning part of it.
It's not what you think is going to happen next, if that makes sense. So at the beginning, you've got Jack Kurt Russell and he's part of it. It's a card game. I don't know what's done with the Clinton.
Don't know what's done with the Clinton. Don't know what's done with the Clinton. We're going to do it. We're going to do it.
We're going to sing a play again. You genuinely don't believe your eyes as to what you are about to witness next. Because that's how I felt when I was watching it today. And this is the first time I've ever seen it.
And it's not for any other reason for the fact that I just, I don't know, it never crossed me right off. Yeah, exactly. The start and sit, we get egg, standing in the lawyer's office, other day's office and they don't know what's happened. Yes, we want to know what happened.
And he does the whole lightning thing, which is fine. But when you go into, when you finally get to meet Jack, which by the way, another fucking fact that he taught in the third person, I want to be able to do that. I go call yourself Sam Burton now. Sam Burton.
Well, I remember good old Sam Burton said. I don't think that's what he says. But no, I just, I, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've enjoyed where my eyes were taken to today. Hmm.
Well, you're late. Um, yeah, I like it's, it's an amazing film, but like I said, it's very weird. Like every, every single scene on its own looks cool. And it's like, oh, wow, this is brilliant.
Oh, what's happening here? But then it goes to the next scene, how did we get here? Yes. There's a lot of this.
Once it comes out the basement or like giant insects eat some man and it's like, there was no mention of this earlier on. It's just, it's just interesting. I think that's the best part about it is the non explanation towards it. Yeah, there's a fucking, there's a monster in the cupboard.
Who gives a shit? Like, I love the fact that this is no explanation. We, we didn't know that we're there, they didn't know that we're there. Like I think they did because I think when I was going to say I'm going to try to get a break pronunciation one's father in the shop says China is here and we're like, like the ancient China is here in Lohan and the demons and the peas and the demons and stuff like that.
And they say when I was a little China in California, isn't it? I'm trying to get the parents. It was based in California, some American town where Jockerton and the pork chop express kind of see how fucking it means. And if I had a truck or any type of vehicle, I want to call it the pork chock express.
I'm calling us on the front. I'll just call me Carit. Let's just call me Carit. Let's just call me Carit.
Yeah, we'll call it the piglet at the moment because it doesn't really do its job. Yeah. So look, guys. Actually, don't have any problems with your cars lately, like.
Oh, actually, we ran around the day to say that there was oil in our driveway after I'd been porked. I caught my car situation was bad. See, OK. Yeah, you can get an abuse in the car already.
Both of you is now. Yeah, fix your car. Yeah, fix your car. Fix your car.
Fix your car. As I alluded to before, like say Kurt Russell is just like whatever role he plays, he's just like sex appeal either with Gordon Horne on all the board. He's playing a pirate in Captain Ron, Santa Claus. He just oozes like say a charm in class.
And there's something about him. And him and Bruce were in the 80s, basically outsold everyone for best stops going because even like me watching back, I can pull up a best stop. Look at himself now. I can't have pull up a best stop.
But I want to just by looking at how good Jack Burton looks like in that best stop in this movie. He looks so good. And I'm sure I don't know why I got this stuck in my head. And I was trying to explain it to Dave Emery.
And it just was not coming out. In overboard, I'm sure he does Jack's voice at some point. Like that character. I'm sure at some point he does that.
Because that voice is very distinct for Kurt Russell. I don't know if it was Jack Burton voice, but it was definitely the guy that goes into the hall house. And he goes, yeah, I'm sure he's done that because he went to the doctor's to pick up Goldie Horn. I think it was the same type of performance.
And he's like, I've heard that before. Possibly. And just to show your premise of this movie, story-wise, it is absolutely bonkers. It's literally basically the stumble on some kind of ancient Chinese war between guns that's been going on.
There's a guy that's not alive that's been cursed by two demons that he's got to appease. And basically there's two girls with green eyes, one Chinese, which the word Chinese was very, very hard to make. I would show you a say. And then Kim Cottrell, who was absolutely banging, that was a performance after Porky's, I think.
Yeah, yeah. She's, do you know what Kim Cottrell, I think, doesn't get the credit she deserves when it comes to our acting because we all know our instrumental joins in sex in the city and everyone will always look at that performance and by the way she is fucking phenomenal. She is the best thing in there, the best written character, the best performing character. But fuck me, she was so fucking good in this.
She played that part with total ease that it just felt like completely and ugly, effortless. But there is one question I have to ask, the prophecy. Is that he has to have a Chinese girl with green eyes? No, wasn't Chinese just a girl with green eyes?
So it was just a girl because me and Anwar have this conversation on the way home. And I said, I can't remember them ever saying Chinese, but if that's it, right, OK, that clearly that'll be- Yeah, I'm sure I could be wrong, except someone wants to Google, but that's the premise was because there would be a kind of racist in back then, like the Chinese said, they can't choose a single woman. It has to be a Chinese woman, that's a harsh. It's like, yeah.
It was fantastic for how did they work with as well? Yes. TV, like a movie tropes from the 80s, like any woman that shows up that's the love interest has no backstory whatsoever. They go, oh, she's a liar.
That's it. That's all she had to work with. Yeah. But don't worry, I didn't write women.
Yeah. Everything about this was entertaining as well. And even though she did resort to, like, the damsel in distress type character as well, but she held it on with up against, like, say, Kurt Russell and didn't give an easy ride as well. But I loved all the characters in this as well.
Like, Wang was like, the author of that whole thing at the start. When he's, I'm going to cut the bottle in half. I truly wanted him to see and cut the bottle in half. I wish they did a player back at the end and say, look, Jack, and done that in the restaurant.
That would have been all of it, like, ending for me if he just proved he could do it. But I want to say how the stakes got that high in the game and done it was $1,000. That's some extreme dominoes. You've got to go to the dock, you've got to go to the dock land and play with them crazy people down there.
Yeah, they take a deadly serious, but isn't that like, totally foreshadowing the end of the movie? Because of his reflexes. Yeah, well, it's all like, like, everything's foreshadowed. Like, it was- That's the only one I took up on.
Like, literally everything about it. Like, but I think that's why it works so well. It doesn't try and be too clever. It just tries to be out there and go, right?
What can we do? That's just absolutely nuts. Like, I love the bad guys in this. And normally, like, in these type of movies, the bad guys can be quite dull and uninspiring.
But, Lord Pan, the guy who plays like, was in Williams World 2 as well. Yeah, he's a dad. Isn't he a fan theory as well? Yeah, he plays the guy who has an argument with all the Andrew Ring chicken, that's only that.
That's it, yeah. He actually, he's 95 years old. He's still alive. And his family actually did a fundraiser too.
Because you've got to pay for a Hollywood star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. His family did a fundraiser. And as of last year, he got his- As he's freezing 95th birthday at present, his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Isn't that fucking special?
That he actually got to see that happen. I love that. But the gods in this as well, it wasn't a thunder, like, in a ring ring. Like, the ring?
I'm sure this is where Mortal Kombat stole my guy. Yeah, it is. I read all about it. It's not ceiling, it's pain.
Homage. Is that why you don't pay the royalties for them? Yes. That's right, if you're paying a homage, you don't have to pay no royalties.
I'm pretty sure they are pretty much clean. Mortal Kombat is one thing that's doing the thing with the beams of light. Yeah, and all the pans go. You spingers and scolds.
As if you stay with the PlayStation controller. There is some phenomenal fight scenes in this mind. And I love it when you- Because my granddad used to watch a lot of martial art movies. And I always used to find it hilarious.
When they do all these fancy moves, nothing happens. They're not really touching anyone. They're just moving all over the place. And then that's it.
I love that aspect of confirmed movies. I think the great- And I love how Jack Burton has big American Burly Dude is the joke in this as well. Like, every time he comes up to a situation where he's in a fight, things always go wrong from. Like, for example, when one's fighting all the people in the warehouse and he's trying to get the knife out and he throws it, and it goes halfway along the warehouse and the warehouse, he's just not good.
By the time he actually gets the knife back, one's beating them all up and he's just like, ah! And then when the big statue monster thing starts fighting him and he kind of rolls over on the floor. And then his knife gets stuck, so he pushes it through and he stabs the guy through the half and he's using his foot. And then the guy falls over and he's just like rolling about on the floor, stop underneath this big, Muslim-y Burly Dude.
And I just don't- That's actually hilarious and like how confident and egotistical Jack was. He was absolutely useless when it came to a fight. Yes. He didn't have an absolute clue.
His friends did all the fighting bar room, but he did have some cork lines. And the dialogue for Kurt Russell's character of a law was some of the best dialogue I've ever heard. We really shot the pillows of hell didn't we Jack? It's the last bit.
When he's just leaving and he's just like, oh that is so cool. And I know Kurt Russell, I know, like half a person. That's a bit old Kurt. But I read, sorry, that he really was hesitant about doing this movie because the thing flops so badly.
Which if you listen to Tomorrow's episode you'll find out as to why, but he was very hesitant. And then just remember he was like, do you know what? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit?
Like, why am I thinking? Why am I thinking along these lines when I had so much fun on the last movie? So yeah, he was a bit hesitant to start with and then remember that you know you've got to have fun sometimes. Exactly.
So Lee, what are your standout moments for being trouble at the China? What kind of things stand out in your mind? Probably just the crazy action seems like I think they used trampolines for that flying fight. That made no sense at all.
They just kept on jumping across the room at each other. And yeah, just how much Kurt Russell job is on. He's just such a big mouth idiot. So he's any reminder of me than you've asked it.
Oh, I'm quite good. That's what I put it down. Yeah. And that's kind of something that I think I always stands in my head and it's one of the grossest things in the movie.
I don't know why. I gave him since a kid. I always remember it when the guy bites ahead of the fish and says enhance the room. It's just the way this interaction is like why would that be okay?
Like even in the most on-play society, why is it like I'm a bite of this fish. That's like, that is not okay. That really freaked us out, but also it reminded us of trade and places when Dan Aykroyd is eating the fucking salmon through his Santa beyards. And I'm like, why do people do this thing for fish?
It's like, no. So we're really sad that the could possibly be going into the last moment of the life fighting some Chinese emperor God. And his last meal is a fish he found on the floor in a room. And no idea how long it's been there for.
This is a fish. I'll chew a ten off. Yes. This is how we roll.
Crazy. Yes. But even like certain, like the action scenes, when I was a kid, I remember saying nothing like it before. I wasn't big in the martial arts film.
So seeing this was what I kind of like my game. We have to look at films like Bruce Lee and John called Van Dam. I think I watched an ocean over trade, nor surrender after watching things like that. This is a strange one because it's a John Carpenter movie.
But what's your class this as a kids movie? Yeah. I mean, there's nothing untoward that I would stop. I know.
Yeah. Yeah. My class is a kids movie. Yeah.
I don't have children. So I don't. There's only one bit of blood I think in the whole. Yeah.
Like even the crazy fight in the alley at the beginning where there's like a guy with a Tommy gun and like the cowboy guy shooting everywhere. It's like it's hitting the coffin. It's hitting the signs above. The truck doesn't get hit once.
No. Even though it's blocked in the whole alley. I think the only bad thing is that one guy gets his arm slapped to the wrong way. Yeah.
Oh, how young? I don't know how you pronounce his name. The greatest tension that ever lived. Oh, yeah.
Even he slashes somebody up the face with a knife or something like that. And there's not a drop of blood comes out. No. That's probably something very friendly film.
It's a hell of a rip through the senses. I think that's how like the dark night, not the dark night with the joke or in. That's how it got it written. It was because it's not one single drop of blood in it.
Like the pencil scene and certain like gunshot stuff. But that's how violent and the tone it was. It got its PG written because there was no blood in it. But with this one, it reminds me of Band Calledie Mondays of the band called the weekends.
So we get these type of movies used to always be on like on a Sunday or on a band called. They used to get big trouble in China. You just got the goonies used to eat tea. Like it used to be like stables around like the Watson house told when my parents didn't want to look after his sister's in front of a TV to watch these type of movies.
But this is the type of love that this is the type of stuff I kind of grew on and like couldn't not like indulge. But it's a shame we don't get these type of movies anymore as well. Because I don't think anyone's looking to make these type of risks. No, they're not going to pull.
They're not going to put all the money that they do into movies these days. Doing something that is just totally it lets me on as it's completely fucking out there. Like it's really out there that no one's going to touch anything. Probably now because it's such a cool classic that people will be like, oh yeah, we could redo this again because we know that there's a following there.
But if it didn't have that cool classic status, no one's going to make something like this again. So can I see you do like your factoids and stuff and you do your research and stuff? Who wrote this? Did you look in?
Is that my putting you on the spot there? Sorry. I can't get to my phone to check. Sorry.
No, sorry. No, I didn't check who wrote it actually. I was just, you know what? I don't know if anyone else does this, but when I watched a new film, I always go straight.
Regardless of I'm doing monsters or not, I always go straight to IMDB and go to the video page. And that was. Yeah, I just read something there. Just because I was interested because I just said this is actually crazy.
This is going to make it even worse now. So it was a screenplay I wrote by someone called Gary Goldman and David Z Weinstein. And the premise of this now get this. It was envisioned as a Western set in the 80s.
What? So that was a big premise initially for big trouble in little China. That's the screenplay that was BSL. You could not get any further from that actual description right there.
It's a martial arts like almost homage to Kung Fu movies. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Definitely not a West and like you don't, the only, the only speaking West and again is the standoff bits where you've got one person on one side, one person on the other.
But that, that, that. I'm going to throw some facts at you now because I know you're the fuck right now. Wow. So let's have a little quiz.
See, I'm going to close this point. Sami and Lisa, don't look at anything. I can't. What do you think the movie's budget was?
Oh, okay. So you got to take into the fact that the thing bombed and that would have been a contributing factor money wise. Hmm. I don't know.
I'm not good with money. I guess. I'll say five million. Yeah.
I mean, it'd be too high of a budget. No, I think I think probably a bit lower than that. I want to say I'm going to say about two and a half three. Twenty five.
Twenty five million. Twenty five. Well. Do you know how much it grossed?
Oh, no. No. Yeah, about 1920. Eleven.
Wow. This was a massive bomb when it came out like initially. Wow. So this was sitting like at this point, I think with like the thing bombing, I don't even hit that John Carminate had at this point was Halloween.
Yeah. I mean, there is a reason why the thing bombed as hard as what it did is because of timing. And the timing of say I'm giving away all the shmorrows. It plays a bit of a part.
When the thing came out, it went up against Blade Runner, who then went up against ET. It was never going to fucking win in the grand scheme of things. It was never going to win because ET just totally fucking dominated. Nobody is going to see a John Carpenter movie over a Stephen Spielberg one.
Not like the other. Not us, but the general public will go to the stuff in Happy Place and not where they think they're going with John Carpenter. Just think of the time of being alive or around about this. Like, I know I part on about the 80s being the greatest time for movies.
In the 10 years that we got, like see, as you mentioned, ET, Blade Runner, the thing, the evil dead. Big trouble, little China, the Goonies, stand by me. Stand by me, Edis, I was at 90s and things. It feels like Edis.
It feels like Edis. It feels like Edis. Because of how it was filmed. I'll go with the different ones, the Lost Boys.
If you think of like all these type of different type of genres of movies as well, like I know, again, I always feel like I'm on a sort box and I do talk about this as well. It irritates a lot because, as you said, I know, inflation and everything goes up and I can say, I think, but making big trouble in little China with 25 million. And now you're making movies that's, like, as for example, The Flash. Like the amount of money now that the Flash has made is the biggest, biggest superhero movie that's been lost because of the 225 million, but it costs over like 500 million to make.
So let's go back to give an independent or writers stories where they're not going to make a franchise where, like, as you said, they have a bit of fun. They're not trying audiences like the stupid. They can just go in and just say, right, that's how fun. That's how a story.
If it doesn't make sense, it doesn't matter if it's on the set of tier. Yeah. Like, allow writers to be writers. They allow them to have some like expression to where it doesn't have to be like, well, how can we market this later on?
Look at what Marvel's done. How do we do that? Who gives a book? Like, and I can't believe I'm actually saying this given like, I am a Marvel fan and for the first 10 years of Marvel, I was well into it and loved what they created.
But it's put it's put to just stop on people writing just fun movies. Nothing has to be taken seriously. It doesn't have to be an end credit scene to where, oh my God, I could lead it to something else. Look at the end of this movie.
Look at it. We got a fucking cliffhanger. We actually know what we had a cliffhanger. It was a good cliffhanger as well.
I thought I know what that monster was. You never get to all what that monster was. It was just a lumpy hairy beast. It's just a hairy predator, isn't it?
It looked like a little bit. You know, it could be from Creepshaw. It looked like fluffy cousin. So who did the...
Who did the FX for this? I don't have that information. Anyone in the chat? Anyone in the chat wants to help us out with that one?
I don't know. It feels very Jim Henson. But also Tom Cervini type feel as well. Because that does look like fluffy.
I'm not saying... It's not homage to the fluffy. I think this whole movie is not... It's paired homage and then it's passed on homage too.
So because I know Creepshaw comes out later on after this, I'm sure. Well, you'll find out Tom Cervini part too. It'd be nice if we could have movies that are not taken too seriously. And there's no thought of like franchise behind it or continuity.
There's something funny, something relaxing. Because you know what scares me? And again, this is genuine. And it's an all-exit podcast.
We'll talk about movies in general. I don't think people realize how much I love going to cinema. Like anyone who goes to the cinema with me will experience not just the film, but will experience me experiencing the film. But...
I've experienced that experience of you experiencing a movie cinema. I've been there. It was one of the most heartwarming things I've ever watched a fully grown adult man do. It's something pure in the sense of cinema.
So you can go there with all your worries and just keep forgetting for that time. But in the world we live to here, with the cost of everything, they are cinemas closing down. Like some of them now doesn't have its own cinema. Our city centre, we are a city.
We don't have one... What we do, but you've got a fucking travel forest and you've got a travel far forest and then you've got a PSH load of money for it. That cinema, I went to the beginning of the year at the same screen six and I paid less money there than I've ever done in any of the big franchises. And it's so sad that it's gone.
It's awful that we don't have a cinema anymore. And now the news is that cinema's been in trouble for years. I think that is a franchise that someone would buy out. I don't think they would let that one go.
But if they did, it really is the end of cinema in our neck of the northeast. So that would be a cinema world cause. That means that we would only have the audience at the center. And that is a trek.
I know the northeast is small, but we're not. So that is a bit of a trek and it is very expensive and it has one of the most convoluted fucking lines for food I've ever come across. But yeah, it would literally rip out cinema for our neck of the northeast. I'm just laughing as well.
Sorry, not at the point you're making Chris has actually done some research and said, The monster that we were talking about was a character based on urine. A creature from Chinese folklore said to be an ear like bean inhabiting the monstrous village of Western, who be a transitive, covered in British hair. So basically a ginger. So Goodwill is the monster from Big Trouble of China.
Did Chris say that? Oh, you just I live in the next. Well, thanks Chris. I could do with your help with research when I'm doing monsters because that was really a thank you.
If you ask the researcher monsters, say a payment upfront, please. I will pay you in bags of party rings. I feel that is a fair triage. So yes, just coming back to big trouble.
So if you're watching for the first time, and I can experience it with brand new eyes and not going with any expectations or like just one that it's a mass place of cinema. How did you find it going? Just was it, as you said, was it just an experience or were you sitting there going to point out what the fuck's happening now? I actually watch it on my own and it doesn't work.
But I did message him just before I started and said, I'm just about to watch a picture of China and he rang us on his break and he went. I love it. It's one of the best, but it does really annoy us at the end. Now Anthony's a stickler for Asian history.
He absolutely adores it. He appreciates it. And he did not appreciate the end scene with this ancient temple that had fluorescent true lighting. That's the one gripe that he had.
He says, I don't know why I felt like this since I was a kid, I can't get my head around. And when he pointed it out, it was like, it was an eye sore for us, but it definitely didn't take away my experience. I thought this was an absolute thrill. I thought Kurt Russell was phenomenal.
Kim Kottrall was stunning. But what really caught my eye was the cinematography. How the how when we're in that temple, it's so bright. It's so illuminated.
Like, yes, it's got the rest of the lights in there, but I didn't give a shit. I wasn't looking at like, Oh, yeah, this is meant to be an ancient temple. I'm like, fuck yeah. So it's going to go down in here.
When did that happen? That's later fitted. Yes. He's coming to the yes league.
Well spotted us. Modern technology. Yes. So I'm annoyed there with fluorescent lighting.
Actually, you can forgive and come to the left person and put some light in. But fit in the next layer. That's got to be some work put in. They've got to have like an actual workforce coming.
All the whole, how did the army do it for them? We don't know. How did the demons come in and do a deal? The might of.
What was that big hit by the way? Yeah. Then he shot us. You know, the one that came in and talked for the big master guy.
Like, what the fuck was that? I think it was a send up to flash Gordon. I was like that. That's cool.
I don't know if he's played the MD or whatever. Hold the raise, but it's just one of them. Right. It's pretty much.
I thought they were playing classical. So yeah. It's not so bizarre. And I love the fact that he shot it and just went, well, I need to try.
I love that. But what I also love was the costumes. I thought the costume design was absolutely superb. I love the scene with Kim Petrel and the other lady when he did that, I don't know, like a trans on them and their eyes turned white.
She was called Susie Pie. Susie Pie. Susie Pie. Susie Pie.
And when the eyes went white and their white eyes against the big blush and red lipstick and the eyes. Oh my God. Did that look fucking beautiful. It was all striking.
It was. Again, I didn't understand how that happened. Just because the left was like, I have left the camera eyes. So it was like to electrocute your eye.
Make it make sense. Yes. That's what this film was all about was, you know, let's make it make sense. Kim could come out of this like France, like early, don't know why maybe Western women could come out with their friends earlier and don't know.
Maybe she's a stronger will. She's a lawyer. Grace Law. Yeah.
Oh, stopping them just read in this now. Something I've always wondered about this is when did Lopez start getting called Dave or David? Is this 2000 year old Chinese God and it's like little pants strikes the feet like his name strikes fear into the heart of men. Are it Dave?
You've got to normalize yourself to get back into the business thing. But yeah. The first call. The first call.
The first call. That's a bit of an awful kind of call your days instead. That guy died. That guy died straight away and it just stopped falling.
If you can take my filter off please. I am literally disappearing. You're going black now. Yes.
I am like a head. I can take my filter off if you can. I would have your hands. I'm not complaining.
Oh, don't shoot. Did anyone actually hear a say that because I felt like I said far too fast. There you go. Oh, there I am.
Hi. See, this is why I wanted to filter for us because my face looked really, really red and there's absolutely no reason for it. But I'm going to have to accept it otherwise I'm going to disappear into the abyss. Thank you.
Yes. I like I idea though find the most inoffensive to you name Dave. Sorry, David. I don't know even the chat.
I did. Are you really? I am? I have a little haha.
If it's not the secret thing now, I've got a couple more. I think about the most significant factor here, poor ballads. Amazing. Why yes, well, right away when he's in law, pan, right.
Outfit. What I thought was fucking spectacular. That is an iconic look by the way. Oh.