We're live. Hi everyone and welcome to a new episode of the Nodioh North podcast. It's the Nodioh North podcast hosted by Northern North. I am one of your hosts Sam.
And I'm another host Paul and we are joined today by team podcasts BFG, big friendly giant Kev and the original Boo Club, Boogh Nerd. That is Charlotte. Don't worry, we're not going to go any blood on Charlotte today, so that's fine. We'll leave that for Kevin Charlotte's private life.
Yes. So yes, today's episode, sorry I'm getting mesmerized by the new screen with it moving now. I'm trying to be all clever and shit. So it looks all fancy and so never.
Well yes. So yes, today's episode is going to be a little bit intellectual. Shall we see her? It's going to be a little bit up-row for us.
We're doing a vegetable. I am. I love it. I am.
Charlotte just want to take this one. I'm playing more some process in the corner. Well yes, we are going to take like say going from Greer Boogs that have been transformed into movies and we might even talk about some Greer Boogs that haven't been transferred well to movies and they have that type of conversation because I know with a lot of different books and a lot of different incarnations, there's always like say the conversation you have did at work, did it not work, well we are going to have that little brief conversation today. So let's get a little bit of a disclaimer out there way before she gives us the evil eye.
Just my eyes today. I have a make about. So everything is in our opinions and our opinions and all. If you want to discuss anything from tonight's episode please come and join us on the Facebook group and we can have an open discussion.
What we want to have is anyone, oh gosh, what we want to have is anyone coming for us and telling us our opinions are wrong. We can agree, disagree, in fact and so let's keep it fun. Keep it kind and keep the toxic behaviour out of notism. So we'll try to emphasise the word toxic.
Yeah, after the wake up with a few instances in the nerdy group which we do try and keep friendly and the toxicity out there but with the new Star Wars mode, Star Wars fans has really done so we head again which is so easy, yes, so hard for people to follow and that's why I emphasise the word, toxic. I was surprised by the kickin' off about the fairy changing colour in Pinotio. Oh my god, what just happened in the universe? What's next little mermaid again?
Pissed off because I haven't had an actual mermaid. Yes. Give flounder a roll, give flounder a goldfish. Right, let's get in there.
Books to movies. Yes, and Goodwill has pointed out in the chat already, there is a little bit of an easter egg in the layout today, there is a flot and donut kickin' about so if you say a little wave. No, I'm staring at it, I'll watch it later. Sorry, sorry and again apologies for me, Cameron, I would eventually sort it out at some point if he's watching on YouTube.
If you're listening through the podcast and streaming thingies, you can hear us. Exactly. And I just want to say as well a big congratulations to the nerd royalty that we have with us today, the first king quick, well not the first, because I know it was the first unfortunately, the first couple of king queen. I think you just meant for the scenarios as first, couple of king and queen.
I will help him dig out with that. Good girl. Yes, congratulations to Charlotte B, come in and miss his Mac Daddy, with a ring on her finger, she's gonna show off the ring. She'll be ring.
Just bring it down, give me a ring. It's not that kind of podcasting, really. If you're not another hashtag, that's not another hashtag. Charlotte's ring, you brought that on yourself.
You can see this flag across the ring. But yeah, if you look at the ring, go vlogging here. You know what, pop it. You can see behind Charlotte's heart rate.
Oh, right. Let's have zodiac already there as well. Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry. You are getting a lot of congratulations in the chat, baby. So I bought a half an old reason. Sorry, can't be looked at if he's invited.
You know what you're saying? I'm over gone for a quick. Where do my name is saying? Across the Northern one.
Show us it. It was a touchy. Don't you? I haven't mentioned Southern Loydick yet, so it's not that golden.
I don't know the way it goes. It was a music. It was a song. It was a song, Northern as it's gonna be.
Right. So yeah, spooks and movies. So let's start off with the ones that you love, like, stand out as your favourites. So I'll go over the core course this time, because I normally get to get to the last two.
So Sam, what is your favorite book to movie adaptation? That you've read the book and that you've enjoyed the movie as much as? The first one that comes to mind is Red Dragon, and Thomas Harris. It was probably the only fictional book I've ever read.
Probably. No, it really is the first one that comes to mind. I love Science of Lams as a film, but because of how I read, I didn't think I could read Science of Lams, how I read them to sex. Like, I just have to love me in reason.
But I didn't think I could read Science of Lams. I thought it would be too hard to do. Why I thought Red Dragon would be easier. I don't know.
I think I was just really intrigued by Red Dragon and I just wanted to kind of know. And then I remember being in Florida and seeing the poster with the Red with the dragon on the front of my wrist, but oh my gosh, I lost my mind. Like that was going to, because I knew manhunter. Yeah.
I knew manhunter was a thing and I knew it came from Red Dragon, but to see Red Dragon to be put on it's perfect. There's very few differences in it. It's such a great adaptation and the cast, like I can only see Zid with Norton. Yes, it will be.
Yeah. I'll always call him Edward Felton for some reason. Oggrey and Norton. So I want to be careful.
I'm very careful. Very different. It would be a very different film. Some Irish dude just running around with a gun.
No, I thought he is my will Graham. So when I see Will Graham in Hannibal, and the TV series, I'm disgusted by what I see, that is not Will Graham. He's not the person Thomas Harris wrote about in the book. But he does in the film, he gets him spot on.
So I would have Red Dragon will always be my topic if I had to have a topic. So did you read the book before you saw the film? Or did you see, because I've probably watched Manhunter before I attended the read. I'll be on the side of one of them books.
I've never been able to finish. I prefer Silent Civil, I'm a sport. Red Dragon was a difficult one for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I read it before I saw the film. I only watched Manhunter because of a certain mutual friend of ours, who's name I don't want to say it. Don't want to give him any credit. All right.
Let's get some. All right. So yeah, he made us watch that. And because I'm such a big fan of science, the lambs, I didn't really, I was boo-hooing it before I even watched it.
That's not my, he was very, and Brankox was not kind of a like it to me. Now I'm a bit older and I've watched again. I really, really enjoyed it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I watched it. I read the book before I read it before.
I took me a long time to read it. Oh, that's good. Just how difficult it is. Yeah.
But actually, that's a great point that you just made though. So there wasn't much changes or much difference from the actual book to the one that we got with Ed Norton, the actual red dragon. Because I know a lot of the science alarms fans and, well, Hannibal fans like, get it when arms are times because I can say that the big changes that came from the book and how it was portrayed on the screen. So that one for you, for your personal one, that one hit everything that you wanted to.
Oh, everything that I wanted to. And I told you, get white people coming from Hannibal is, it's nothing like the book. I don't know if he's a reddish or a single one. Yes.
And then the first act of the book. Yeah. And then nothing for the end. And yeah, so I can understand the upset there.
And I know Hannibal Risen is a difficult one because the studio is ready to make that film. And Thomas Harris hadn't even finished the book. And he really rushed it. And he knew it wasn't great.
But he needed to get his story out and not a studio telling it for him. Yeah. I think I go rising. And people assume because the book came out so close to the film.
I think people assumed that the film, the studio sort of influenced the book. Mm-hmm. A lot. Which it didn't.
It was just that the timing was just. It really did. Because he was not about having a studio telling his story. Even though what we got was you could tell it's a restaurant.
Yeah. Yeah. But it sounds like the lambs was just just because of how old I was at the time. I would say that would have been perfect.
But Red Dragon was the one I actually finished. I'll always go back to. I think I'm on a third copy now of Red Dragon. It was a moment I often have read it.
Great. No. I knew that Thomas Harris was going to fall into play at some point during this conversation. I think we've went into conversations many times, previously on the podcast, like how you feel towards it.
But it is quite a telling one as well. But that's always the interesting conversation. Because I think with kind of a little brief discussion before we came on, a lot of people always have the conversations in obviously in this film. Well, read the book.
Or you should say the film. I was saying that like in power, even when you have conversations about shows, people always say, oh, the book's better or have the opposite. People never seem to be able to agree on that. It's always the.
John's a book first. Yeah. Was it really? It actually, do not read it.
Wasn't really. Yes, do not read it. Should I just go now? Like, go on.
Go on. Go on. Go on. To be fair.
To be fair, when it comes to George, I think the book would go largely forgotten if it wasn't for the film. So that's not. Right. Unless you're a die-hard, die-hard George fan.
Have we done realize it? The book? Yeah. It's not good.
And it was predominantly about the New Jersey massacre, where there was a bull shark going to the rivers, taken which is the true story of where George came from. But the fuck that I'm so badly likely to be about, actually, knew nothing about the shocks. And he massively messed it up. It was until the film came out and it's all this is all should be done.
It's all enough to like, study in the shocks. But then there was a lot of controversy about the book as well, because with people reading it, people went out hunting in the shocks, because I thought like from his information to the work. No seriously, just to go the shark. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, we've got to start all these shocks because they're going to kill more people. So it was kind of, it was. Yeah. People just seem to watch sharks once or two people.
Yeah. See sharks, all these sharks coming over here pinching our limbs. Oh my god. That was the mentality of it.
I mean, it's just fantastic if you read it backwards. It's essentially a shock given legs to one of your teeth. Excellent. At least I'm not the only one, Donna.
Donna, how you doing? She said she didn't know that either. So I don't know. Don't know.
Yeah, it's really bad. And it talks like two of the best, one of the best characters in much, who were in gay men affair with Brody's wife. Yeah. There was most uncomfortably and badly written sex scene ever.
It made 50 shades of gray look like a heart Jesus Christ. Then 1984. LAUGHTER It made us look like a mother. Oh, wow.
Okay. See, that's nothing to be ashamed of at all. Because I would say there's probably a majority of people that don't know that. Because the way we grew up, like, shores were such an iconic and masterful like film.
And it's still one of my favorite films. But as Kev said, I didn't enjoy the book. Because I loved the film that much. I went and found more information.
Like, I've got a short post on your bedroom and everything. And when you read the book, it's not to the standard, like, as what's the story that you get. And that's what I say there is people diehards that love the book as well. And say, oh, the film is so part of the book.
But that's the way you get like, say the cross of people opinion. I love having that conversation. When people tell you like, why do I feel like that? No one's to say that you're right or wrong.
It's just like, see, you've got that other opinion. Like, say that's the conversation I always like having. But yeah, so I kind of went on to another topic without even trying. So I'm sorry.
I didn't mean like, do you really? I just got a bit of a shock. Absolutely. I learned something tonight.
I'm saying, I'll call it at all costs. But if you want to say how you can like, like, so like have a number one best on with no clue with your subject. Oh, just French, if you share the career. Oh, well, could I have that conversation if you want?
Just to be fair, if it's not great books, but books and movies, it is probably one of the most successful ones. That's like, near the city. Yeah. It's just really good publicity and great time.
I mean, all these bosses have to read that. Like, I want to miss the great one. Christy and Greg, no, you want to billionaire. Because I felt like all the key from the bank of all that would be absolutely fine.
You're all that business. You're one of the fucking billionaires. That is so true. I've read the first page.
Oh, it's so bad. Like her grammar, like I am not going to see. But her grammar is appalling. Yeah.
To be fair, it's good. It's good. It's fun, Zor. Like, you see, that's the way.
That's the way. That's the way. That's why I said we got left on the football. It was on.
Yeah. It was just really, really good timing. Yeah. Wasn't the way you pissed watching the match?
You know, Victoria, you can read this. That was the opposite. That was the opposite. You know what I did when the football was on the Euro, and I washed out, and now be.
It's the way. I mean, I went and had all the other other other works. Yeah, I worked. I'm not also the football.
But no, that looks like a... I think it'll be a missed when we talk about books and movies and not just within the friends that were with the moms and Nannas and stuff to save. It was one of the bizarous expectations you can have. I mean, to be fair, it might not have been well written, but it got people reading.
Exactly. Yeah. That's the thing. The book notes are always going to point out the positives.
Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't that it's a really race, you know what I mean? It wasn't well written.
And it wasn't a great little story. It wasn't a masterpiece. But it got people reading, and it got people interested in books. And that's probably like, like, younger.
Well, there's probably younger people out there who never thought about it before, who picked it up and thought, actually, I enjoy reading. That's just the same. It had to be more football. It was the same.
It was the same. It was the same when I came out. Like, I'm not trying to put it off at all. Oh, I can't.
I know. It's not greatly written, either. Oh, I enjoy it. It's switch your brain off in this room.
But again, it got a whole new generation of kids, didn't it? It's true. That's true. That's true.
That's genuinely thing. Sorry, I'll put it on. No, just in, because I think with a lot of the subjects and stuff, I know a lot of people, especially in a nerd community, I'm not saying we do it all. It's probably subconsciously we do.
We always look down at certain things or subjects, because of, like I said, 50 shades of grey, as I always looked at them, because it was a time and the small. But people are fans of it. People enjoy it. Like, you don't have to be great.
And as Tyler said, get into reading. And I say that was the Twilight as well. I remember, I used to travel down to Manchester, to see one of the ex-girlfriends each weekend, for nearly 10 years. And I'd say pick up an extra book and read for two hours or three hours from the coach.
And I'd say that the Twilight got me through that journey every weekend, maybe so often. So I'd say when you think about certain books that you read, as well, that's why I always like them, because they bring back certain memories. There's no other memories. But when you look at the movies, even though the movies aren't brilliant, but you can still watch and switch your brain off and just enjoy it.
And kind of smile at them as well, because who doesn't want a shiny smart move on? I'll stick with me. Me grunge you looking at the ones from the last one. I do get what you mean though.
I understand. But there's not all, like, for all that she is now, because she passed away and might be looked upon differently. But when I was younger and Rice, I used to get a lot of shit for the vampire carnivals, because sometimes it makes sense, which is long. The books weren't actually interesting.
But for me, I really, really enjoyed them. They were easy to read. The interview was about, there you go. Anyway, I'm paying attention to the movie is Nion the same.
There's only one small difference, and it's so insignificant. It doesn't need to be in there. It was the moment where I think I've talked about this before, where Claudia is called upon in front of the court. And she's going to be sentenced because she killed one of her own.
And then Elastat makes this grand entrance. Like, yes, she killed me. That was it. That's the difference.
But taking that out and having the staff come back at the end makes it all the more better. Like as a return to that point, you really think he's gone out. So in the book, she brought him back at that moment. And that's the only big significant change.
But again, I think Anne Rice, she's got some shit. Yeah, she really did. But she's made a lot of money though. And she's been an executive.
She's probably getting a lot of money with the new TV show. That's coming out. Is it this year or next year? That's coming out?
I guess it's year. Isn't it? Is it the same year? Is it the same year?
Is it the same year? I remember the same year. I'm getting all confused with Chine now. Is that not coming out in the next couple months?
Yeah. Yeah. When's a lot of the rings coming out? Never.
I've never touched. I've never touched. Never. Never.
Never. Never. Never. No.
No. No. Hey. Oh, yes.
So Charlotte, what would you say would be your stand out? When you're on the spot now, you're a little lady. That's what you're going to mean. Oh, I'm going to say you're the book club queen now.
So my obvious one, my obvious one, is always going to be Alice in Wonderland. That's the obvious one. OK. So which version of the film though?
That's the thing. I'd say probably there doesn't want so many, so many visions of Alice in Wonderland that you could, there's a really, really creepy Swedish one, I think I'm maybe wrong, with puppets that is Night Mobile. It really is that the rubbish from that price. There's so many visions about Alice in Wonderland, but I think the one I always talk about is probably the Disney one, because it's Disney and that's a thousand of land.
I think we're not. That's probably my number one, but there's so many that I can think. Maybe they might not be as close to the book or anywhere even near the book, but I still really enjoy them because of what they're inspired by. Stardust is probably another one that I mentioned in the fantasy ones.
That's right up there. That's pretty close to the book with the exception of a couple of characters. If I mention any more, then I'm gonna try to tell them. I'm gonna try to put it on the magic.
I'm gonna try to put it on the magic. I was trying to, I love that. I was wondering, I'd say Alice in Wonderland reference, it does always have a soft, soft smile. I think most people as well, like say, I would age range, like say that's what we grew up on.
Like I've always wanted to go to New York as well, just to go to the central park to see the whole scene with Alice in the Alice and stuff, because that's, because New York doesn't really appeal to us, but then the elements do without any sense. Same thing, I have the opportunity to go to New York and I was trying to do this 20 person, I was like, I don't want to go to New York. And now I'm like, I really want to go, I want to go to the ghost, the sights and I want to go to central park. And like, yeah, but Alice Wonderland's usually, I have two massive tattoos on my leg of just for my pure love Alice in Wonderland.
But I think I've never read the book. I own multiple copies of it. I've never read it. I think people underestimate how influential Alice in Wonderland is in general, like even if you hadn't read the book, you can probably probably quote it and not even realize where you picked up the quote from.
Yeah, I used to have like a dumb down version of the kids where it had all the phones taken out of it, not the story. And I used to have that and that I love that book. Like, um, Oh, what is it? The carpenter in the wall room, which is a freaking horrifying story.
Um, but at the time you don't really realize it. So it had like all like little side stories in. And but yeah, I have multiple copies about someone planned and just never read it. But that will be a theme throughout this podcast and probably throughout my life.
I own a shit load of books. I have bookies in here. I have big massive one in the back bedroom and I've got a stack in the living room and I'm the worst reader in the world. I'm a book collector for the worst reader in the world.
Collecting books and reading books are two totally different topics. Oh yeah, I stand by that. Yes. One is very expensive hobby as well.
Just when you go shop my charlotte every time I've gone shop, which are recently I come up with a new book. I'm not mad about it though. Cool. Very expensive.
Just ones a bit more time consuming than you're there. Yeah. Like at the moment I'm halfway through American gods. When did we start?
When did we remember that? Yeah. Yeah. That's how I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I read with it, I read with a filter on.
So I have to constantly keep moving the filter over. Um, which is annoying. And because of me dyslexia, I get very tired, very easy. Make me bring in conned.
If I start reading this, I mean, brains like work and tend to work harder than what anyone else is in. So it does take us a long time to read. But when I finish American gods, it will be the first fiction book I have read of that size. I was going to say, I'm going to say, I've got 600 pages.
So I know, I'm going to be something. Actually, you'll get that. You'll get that. What about you, Smooth Mac Daddy there?
Um, I was probably thinking science, the landscape, sorry, it's a sample of hard that. Um, it is literally word for word. The book, it's not word for word. It's the only film I've ever watched in my life.
It is literally word for word. The book, nothing changes in it at all. Um, but for me, I'd say my favorite book to move the adaptation is simply because of how different it is. It's Jurassic Park.
Mm, I thought it was completely different. John Hammond isn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, I bought it. I bought it. John Hammond is an absolute horrible, horrible man.
And what? He's an absolute pre-end book. He's an abusive, just, he's a prick. I imagine just, these, the typical Billy A.
I reckon it's just an absolute horrible person. Hate's kids, hates his family, hates everyone around him, loves money. Um, so when he died at the end of that book, spoiler alert, I was just absolutely fantastic. Um, the fact that there was no relationship between Grant and Soutle because there was like a 20-year age difference there.
Absolutely fantastic. Take that out of the film, please, because it wasn't needed at all. I know they were in the film. Ian Malcom was such a better character in the books.
Um, it was- Which is hard to mean because it's just all been- It's the old room, but he was a better character in the books. He was so popular that they actually bought and bought for the sequel after Killenemore in the book. Um, Robert Muldoon, the park ranger, um, clever girl. Yeah, and he was such a bigger part in the book.
He tried to take on the T-Rex. We had the T-Rex swimming after them in the lazy river scene, which was missing from the film. Um, Janaro the lawyer was a completely different person as well. He wasn't such a sleaze bark.
Um, I mean, he was a lawyer, so he was a sleaze bark. I mean, all this and so was. But still, he was- it was just- it was a better book than it was a film. And that's what someone who- Sorry, it was a better film than it was the book.
Um, whether it was certain aspects within the book that were absolutely fantastic. Um, I guess really hard because I love Richard Antimba, like he is perfect as John Hammond. He is an amazing. He wasn't an amazing, amazing, amazing man.
Just the way he spoke in the film, I was just like, I feel instantly relaxed. No, oh shit, there's a T-Rex. Oh my god. It was kind of like, I feel instantly relaxed.
Now this is fantastic. I've never gone to have enough of your safe share of it. I'm going to go to the- I'm going to go to the- Yeah, I'm going to go to the city of Kefster, Florida. Just go to the court of Jurassic Park, world of Densch, just by T-Rex.
I'm not just a- I will go to Florida again. Oh, that's a shame. I don't like it at all. I'm trained a lot out there with them in the American pop team.
I will never go to Florida again. It is horrible. Oh, that made you a gumball. Was that a giant dinosaur?
Well, this is called a Rexes rich right there. So we'll just go there. I'll just send a friend to the gate and just say welcome to Jurassic Park. Look at that.
Oh, wow. Shit. I was going to say something about Jurassic Park. I was going to say something about Jurassic Park.
I was going to say it's been a while since I read the book. The scientist guy was a bigger part in the book as well, wasn't he? Yeah, it was a massive part. Yeah.
So I was really disappointed when they didn't use BD1 properly until the new ones, like Jurassic World. But they kind of gave them the part that you had within the book. And the part that I really looked from the book, which wasn't in the first film. And it was touched upon in the second film with the Convees.
Because they were pack on, which you saw in the second film. But what you didn't see is that there were also a poisonous. Right. It's hard, like a poisonous venomous, like a venomous bite.
And basically, which is if you like necrotizing fauciates and just you're from the inside out, but you die while it was on there. So it was just unbelievable. Yeah, these tiny little dinosaurs and they're just like a slice of chickens. And they would literally just absolutely fuck you up.
Before we move on there, I just want to like go back to Charlottesville. I've never heard of Wicked Witch laugh like that. No. It was a problem.
I forgot to hope this book is there. Sorry. It was just called the book. Absolutely.
Shit scary. What he's just said there. I have had an ex, what's it called? I have had a part of the big red two, isn't it?
It was Dennis Fauci's face. Every. His death, which is much more brutal than it was in the film. It was morally crap.
That was awful. I'm kind of glad they dumbed it down a bit. Well, they don't tell you about the door, or the frill and shit. Yeah, that's not that.
They don't do that. But they were like 13 feet long. These things were massive. They weren't nearly decided T-Rexes, but they weren't like alpha.
They were alpha predators. Like they were apex predators. It wasn't too much. They could go for them.
Like obviously you get the T-Rex or the giga, or whatever, they can sort of take them out easily. But for the time period that they lived in, they all lived in. There is one single dinosaur. There's not one single dinosaur from Jurassic Park that was in the Jurassic period.
It should have been hence Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous. All the dinosaurs were from the Cretaceous period. And they all lived at separate times. Yeah.
We were very, very, very rarely at any cross over those species. Possibly the Tricerosaurus. People who were listening. The laugh was because Paul brought up what dinosaurs.
What dinosaurs? The Spitty one. So funny. The scene isn't like it's brutal.
But yeah, I did know that the whole toxic in the venom is fabricated. I'm kind of glad they did it that way because I don't want to see how it was written. Play it out. I'm kind of happy just going to do it.
Excuse me. The books are probably more accurate scientifically than the films were. Well, you're trying to get it. It goes into the science and a bit more in depth.
Like the opening, the opening, the opening, complicated to dress part was very heavily sort of biology of dinosaurs and stupidly long words that make us. That's the sound I don't know. Yeah. So this is actually quite scientifically accurate film and Boog.
No. No. No. I was not the person.
Yes, in the books are the books. There's more research going on in the science behind it in the books, whereas if you look up with your dinosaur. Sorry. I'm going to take on that.
I'm going to apologize. Don't start with the dinosaur. I'll show you in the elephant. Oh, it's not that kind of podcast dance.
It is. No. No. There's more research going on in the science behind it in the books, because you can explain it more.
Whereas the film, the kind of... So we're trying to see as the right state. If I got some amber with an insect in, I can't turn that into a dinosaur. No, it's difficult.
Because you've got like a million and one chance that you would be able to find the DNA or the DNA would have arrived. In the amber, that's the job that I'm doing the cross with. Frog DNA and stuff like that. Yeah.
All that's right. Because to be honest, you have to hybridate your DNA from separate creatures, which let's face it. It doesn't work. Sounds like a lot of hard work for something I'm not really that interested in, so I think I'll give them this.
Very good. Thanks. I'm glad because I think these are the ones that I think a lot of people would jump at first as well, because you don't get many bigger films than the ones with top two out. So I know I'm going to go around a little bit bigger.
I'm going to change the tone a little bit differently now. Are you lowering it or hiring it? I mean, it's big bit of it. Sad, to be honest.
Okay. Rosal readers' wipes is not a good one. No. No.
Oh, no. I was making a sass. Go on. Bring the book.
Because I said it's too gnarly in me. No, no. I can't watch that. It's a book.
Yeah. It's a book. Yeah. It's a book.
No. No. No. No.
There's two of me favorite books. I'm going to leave one until the end because it'll probably come up in the section when we talk about authors and stuff like that. It's probably quite good. But this one, I read the book first because I read the announcement that it was getting me it and the director who was making it to just come up making probably the biggest book the films ever in the world.
It was The Lovely Ones by Alice Asebald. And when I read the book, and again, if you've never read it or if you've never seen the film, it's heartbreaking. It's like you go on this journey and it's told from a basis from the point of view of 13 or 14, 13 I think. Yeah.
Your girl who's just blossoming in the life and just lovely energetic. But she falls for a trap for a predator. A cave file who lives in the street, they'll call her and kill her. And then she tells the story of a bit of a ghost and how she's trying to protect a younger sister from having...
She's sort of watching from... That's what we're interpreting as heaven. She's watching her family and she's trying to guide them, I guess, because I still was quite obsessed with patching the guy who did it and how she died. And she tries to guide and protect her sister from falling into the same trap.
Yes. And the... Sorry. Sorry.
I just want to point out that there has been a lot of controversy surrounding the author recently because of our first book, which I guess The Lovely Ones is written sort of from an experience she had in college, which she wrote as a memoir. There was a lot of controversy surrounding that. So if anybody's in the chat or anybody's watching, please don't come up with that. Please don't.
Please don't. Please don't. Please don't. Speak yourselves on that one.
But, uh-huh. Like, say with this book as well. Like, I don't talk about the author and stuff like that. Like, say the actual story.
Yeah. Like, when I saw the movie, because when I got down to Peter Jackson, was that I reckon that you just came off doing the rings and I think in Kong. So it was kind of like, okay, say what this is like and visually it is stunning. Like, I know a terrible story, but when she goes to heaven and seeing the everything that's done, and I know he gets a lot of crap, but he actually is really well played in the smart world book.
And rock out, work wise. And when you read the book, you visually see these characters come to life and say it's something, I know it's torn down from the book because you couldn't portray it. Like, what happens? Like, say it on screen because it's not nice to read about.
But just like, then you see her watching a friends grow up, get stronger. The boy shoot was had a crush on. And I say it was a bit of a weird story. And like, how they actually try and find the body and stuff like that.
And it's all about, like, say the brace that she had as well. And I was just kind of like, would never give up. But I highly recommend reading the book and I love the film as well. And Stanley Tucci is sinister as fuck.
When you guys did the monsters episode. And I was thinking like, what would my top five monsters be? One of my nastatic, one of my would be Stanley Tucci in the lovely ones, because he is terrifying and absolutely terrifying. I was in the dungeon next door typing.
He is chilling. I was given a copy of this by a friend and I read the back of it and just went, I can't read that. Really, so it's too upsetting. The idea of someone, any story where they are taken away and watching their life, a life that they should have had played out in front of them.
It's too upsetting for us. It's the reason I can't watch post. There's another one, is like a child's or the dog, what's it called? Fluke?
Fluke is fantastic. James had it. Whoever came up with that concept though, it's just normal. No, it's too upsetting.
So no. Of course it's upsetting. It's all good. It's the idea of someone watching their life play out in front of it.
It just breaks me off. So when I read the back, I went, no, I can't. And then the film came out and I said, I definitely can't watch a visual of that. I want to be able to function the next day.
And I had a conversation with my best friend before we came on here and that was her number one pick. Was Lily Bons. So yes, again, I know I'm sorry to load the tone with it, but I think that tone was always going to get loaded with a subject matter and stuff like that. And that was always going to come into play.
Well, yes, that I could not, I could not say it, talk about books and movies and not bring that into a conversation at all. Yes, there's a lot of obvious books to films. There's a lot of rings. It's Harry Potter, the Hunger Games, everything like that.
But what's the non-so obvious ones? Like Didier Island, The Good Brothers. That was a bit of a turn into a film. Yeah, that was a bit of a real.
Oh, Amy told us to take a little bit in the current, why guys? Yeah, it's an end to the point where it's not obvious. Like big names out there. It's the films that you enjoy.
Yes, The Girls with Morgan Freeman, was an Alex Cross novel by James Pyerson. It's a good film, Carri Alwez, which is really good and it's more than Freeman's fantastic. It's where the joke comes from, who's Jason Ashley, actually Jud through the forest today. It's an actually fantastic, fantastic film.
But it kind of inspired my love for the Alex Cross novels and then when I read the book I thought, the film was good. This is fantastic. Yeah, it's really good. Sorry, first film.
I didn't even know that was a book until I watched that movie, the movie something. I had no idea that was a book. Which is a book. Absolutely fantastic.
The sequel, Gumben Coache should have been made in the movie, really should have because the sequel was better than the original book. I think I only learned that when we were in Jim V. Look at the books, I had not, I was all in education. No, it's not a book, it's not a book.
It's just happened different, like, as I said, different forms of media and taking it in different ways. There's a lot of films out there that, well, I would say in 90% of movies that's made today, started somewhere as a book or a graphic novel or someone, or a short story. So, the town, yeah. The town, yeah.
The one with Vigalmaz, the road, which, it's a door to the road. A road, ah, comic, a party. Yeah, that's really good. That was just someone's like journal of their travel and through the play.
It's not a nice book, it's not a nice book. There's another one of Vigalmaz and films, the Green Book. It's Vigalmaz and it's Mustafa Ali. Yeah, I'm a visualist.
I have Shri Ali, thank you. Yeah, it's the Green Book. The Green Book? That was a book to film, wasn't it?
I think, yeah, I can't remember the name of the film. No, it was the Green Book. We are saying it right, it was the Green Book. Yeah.