live. Hey everyone and welcome to the Nelly of North podcast. It's a nerdy podcast and it's hosted by her Northern, her nerds. I am a Wollie horse champ.
And I am the other horse, Paul. And we are joined by the two nerdiest nerds that ever has graced the nerdom of nerdism of nerds. Yes. I wish I practiced these.
I would be a little bit better. I was like, I'll never know where your intro is going to go. Yeah. I used to write them.
I used to make more mistakes because I used to like put pressure on us and stuff. But it's easy when liaison because he's a dick. And that's very important. You've got beautiful people on with a beautiful jaw who's who's real life jaw who's not much longer going to be Spanish to anymore.
He's got his jaw. So we went to a change of agents. Yes. We went to factions.
And we have the quiz mistress herself that the lady that just basically took control last night and bust all those nerds around and basically put us all now places. We've got the lovely Jess. Hi. Did I like a school teacher?
Like a school teacher? I saw you mark on them and you were thinking, it's like a mark on tests. But it was the reassuring look I got when it was the Sean Michaels figure. That was probably one of the most loveliest moments I've shared with Jessica because she was just like, yes, you are right.
All the answer I gave away all nice was that I look it was there. Mm hmm. Yeah, got you. Let's be honest, though.
Graham is the worst person for reading singles because he was trying to give anyone book Jessica last night that Sean to the point where I was like, Graham, just give her the fucking figure. Oh, I didn't even notice. Who should stand there? He was like, uh, has anyone want to go this number?
Is there one of this Jessica? Well, that could be my number. And Graham was just like, no, no, it's Graham. Please just give Jessica the figure.
And he was like, okay then. It's got to be the end. Yes. But Sami didn't get her read or you never got the course was to figure that she was demanding.
No. No. So not Ali. I walked out with a set of dice, though, that was very well, have you?
Yes. So if anyone who wasn't there last night, I do apologize if we're just rounding on. We did out the first ever, the nerdy up north live in in Fierce where people could actually touch each other and interact. It was a smelly affair.
I've heard there was like some, some nerdy have a lot of details and Joe was sad because he wasn't there. But it wasn't without the first time because that was against the rules apparently. Not even told was that I was expecting the call. I was I was right out of the sleeve.
Don't ever think like South Park is going to put your own eye part on a little like, yeah, I mean, I should have arranged that but it didn't make my team name was amazing. Not Nick. Yeah, because she was being a bitch. That's all that jazz.
So I was like, right? I just wrote on a piece of paper, not Nick's team. My absolute favorite team name has got to be the ball Marines. Amazing.
Yes. I mean, I think it was just a blanket. I'm not allowed to join the team. But just to see as well because he's because apparently if you listen to his daughter, Lee is dead because that's what she's been telling them all dear.
That Lee, because at least all the aspects where he was in the show, he was in the hospital and so she didn't probably announce that Lee is dead. But Lee, who to support Graham last night came out and looked very sick and didn't look well bless him and he ended up in hospital. So well done for sure, you're supporting Lee. I'm not going to give you a shit.
I love your life for that pleasure. That's all the camera he gets for Stephen, all of the weather spoon supplies the week before. What? We're running the weather spoons at like one in the morning to sit up and then we're leaving and he was like, do you want a toilet paper, Joe?
I was like, what? And he just opened his pocket and he just had all of the toilet paper but he just like, like, stood up like me. So why have you done this? Was he doing like a famous important present in ITP for my butt-aw?
Like a car failure? I was he going to TV the hotel room? Like where was his going to end? What were you about to me?
So I knew he was going to spend the night with the other lady so he was probably going to be messed up. So it was a very responsible action there. So because to be fair though, Joe was running late. I messaged Lee got from there saying I was bald snake.
She is Joe. So how are you guys? You heard it, the weathers things are cooled down. The weathers things are cooled down so it's quite a bearable to sit in this room right now.
Oh, that's a lot of fun on so that's why I'm not going in every lesson like at the moment because I will fry. But yes, I mean, what do you like to do with the disclaimer? Because we've probably said things but we've got to get ourselves in trouble anyway so it's fine. Might as well.
Well, everything discussed in today's episode is our opinions and our opinions alone. If you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, I believe it's come and join us on the Facebook page, the Discord or the comments section where we can have an open discussion. But what we want to have is anyone coming for us in town as our opinions are wrong. We can all agree to disagree in fandom.
So let's keep it fun, keep it kind and keep it toxic behaviour out of activism. Very well said, yes. So, Sami, the lovely Sami, the beautiful lady that is my partner in crime came up with this idea for the next fears in the early up and off podcasts. She was going to do it by monthly and try and work out what's popular and what's not.
But her idea for this month kicking off is the blockbuster season with the summer blockbusters. And I thought that was quite genius. So well done, Sami. She does come up with some bit adding in sometimes.
Sometimes I see it, sometimes people pinch them. Let's say everyone's saying everything from somebody. Yes. And look at all you guys.
Same thing I can say, we want their tunes closing. I've stood for 40 pigs so that's mine. I loved that closing. I was like, yes, yes, that is perfect.
It's funny, closing because me and Jake didn't have a clue what to do. Yeah, I think that you were kind of like trying to work it out and then that just came up. But to be fair, that's exactly how our closings came up. So it's like, it's just how to do things that you're not.
We still throw. Yeah. So we thought we would start with the summer blocks. And again, I might get like, I know a lot of people argue with me with this over this, but the probably the ultimate blockbuster franchise that has ever been created because I know there's been some big movies, but the purpose of blockbuster was created in the 90s.
So where they come with the big budgets where everyone starts throwing the marquee movie show. We say, well, let's be honest, plot wasn't the big keys. It was more about visual aspect and looks. And the one that kind of is the tent hall of the benchmark for every other franchise is the Jurassic Park franchise.
And I know we've talked about the movie quite the first one, quite a number of times, but we've never really had a ball score on XA 1 or 6 now. It's scary to think that the six movies and I know what you didn't get them all and didn't realize we're talking about the six movies. And but that's not a bad thing because now Joe is an expert on the first three movies. Yeah, I think four.
I just didn't want to continue. I'll be around at this point. And that's fine. I told you.
I was at Jurassic Park three until about four o'clock this afternoon. It's not a bad thing. I'm only chopping. Now, you know, I all over the tagline.
So what I've got is the taglines with just the first Jurassic Park, but I feel like it kind of encompasses all of Jurassic Park. Yeah. Okay. So the first one is life finds a way.
This is my favourite. So simple. Welcome to. Just welcome to.
All right. And then this one. I don't know where they were going with this one. Unleash the beasts.
Unleash the beasts. Sounds like you're unleashing Chris and the people in the world. Who are people? Next one is caution alive inside.
Okay. I would talk about Jurassic Park the whole hour or something or? I promise you, we're not. Right.
The next one is like the walking dead or dead open inside. Yeah. Caution alive inside. And the next one is the park is open.
Right. Well, how long is this one? How long is this one? The how long is this one?
An adventure 65 million years in the making. No one liked that one. That one's my favourite so far. And the last one is the most phenomenal discovery of our time becomes the greatest adventure of all time.
Oh, that's completely describe the landing all time though, not just Jurassic Park. There's a lot of time in there. Yes. You know, the taglines for Jurassic Park.
I'm not going to go through all six of them because I don't want to. No. I'm going to do another three hour podcast like the Trek Guys did last night. Yeah.
It's two one. Can I share a quick metric of my favourite metric? Which is the Princess. I'm going to get to watch these films.
Um, show the first one. The first one, 1993. I think that's an easy yes. And obviously the other one's coming out in 2000.
That's a well known. So basically a question of the lost world. Do you reckon she saw it? Um, when did it come out?
It came out. This is the first bit of August 22nd. Nine days before she died. Oh, I don't think she saw it.
No. Did you think she saw it before she died? If she didn't, that's such a damn shame. That was the last time she watched.
And it definitely could have been. So that was going to be my point as well. I was how was Joel going to get the two points of action into this talk? It was like the Princess Diana.
How did she affect Jurassic Park? Oh, the Jurassic Park franchise. And what would happen if Jurassic Park hadn't emerged at the Titanic? Like say, would they have been key or something?
I thought you could mention them. You could mention like, Jack as a Raptor. That could have been interesting rather than being introduced by a kid. We've had enough X thing on X transport.
That was like a snake on the plane. He's obviously on the plane. Flight of the Moon is actually a good show. There's another Raptor on the Titanic.
Yeah, dinosaurs on the boat. Yeah. You're not? You're dressed on the deck.
Sorry, no. That's good. That's good. That's the talent.
Where's the thing? I can't see. So I know when me and Sammy talked about the original Jurassic Park movie, many, many moons ago, I was one of our first nerd talks actually, I believe. Yes.
Because you've done a nice little song for us and you give us that. We talked about our first experiences with Jurassic Park. So rather than making me and Sammy tell me what story is it again. I would love to know about Jess and George's first experience in watching this amount.
I know Jess actually keeps on telling us, it's a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot younger than us. So she's probably sitting next to sit on the cinema, I'm guessing. No, I don't think actually I've ever gone to the cinema. What any of them even the most recent like editions?
Oh, right. So we could watch it all. I don't know. I think I remember being a poster in my brother's room when we very first all moved in together.
I remember the poster even terrifying and it was just like this. But I think I kind of was actually the first one, I think the first one, I've been to Full Lost World, I'm not sure. But no things like, yes, I've never seen things like Land of the Fourth time and things like that. Then it was like when you get a little bit older, you're like, I think you're a classic park.
Oh, you've been traumatized enough. But let's go and put some more trauma in your life. You've never watched it in real life. No, yeah, I think it's just that stuff that all kids do, where you just be like, that's certain, and you suddenly just obsessed with dinosaurs for some reason.
So you know that all kids go through a dinosaur phase. Yeah. What was your favorite dinosaur? What favorite dinosaur favorite one of the movies?
Favorite dinosaur grown up. We'll go with that one first. We'll come into the set of the movies after. Quite literally like anything that was in the water.
Right. We can really obsess through all the prehistoric things that were in the water. Try to think of the next one. Sorry.
That's about it. So I think you get to see them. That's exactly when the Meg came out. I was like, oh, my God.
It's terrible. I'm not making some of your big fans in the Megs. So we're quite like that. What were your first experience watching the original G of A?
So I don't really remember. I don't know if Jessica's going to be the Meg, probably. Jessica's going to be the only one. It's fine.
But I'm going to flip around. Yeah. I think my grandmother, who was a teacher, who was a part of the Temsall sign, had a lot of like films that had Spanish subtitles on it for the kids of our school. Could you talk English at a Spanish school?
So she had a lot of movies that just had Spanish subtitles on them. I'm very sure Jurassic Park was in that collection. I'm not sure if I'm using the chat to back it up on that, but it was probably the first time I saw it. And I think the first time I noticed Jurassic Park was probably the market for the Lost World, which was just huge at the time.
It was just such a massive push for that movie. Yeah. And I remember being really upset because you could go and see it at the cinema and I couldn't. It's one of the roles I was doing.
Oh, is that where the Rival-E big start with Sonya? So you got to see who's Econ? Yeah, she always got to go and see the fun movies. And then I went to the front and I was like, oh, take it to go and watch the fan for a minute.
I'm like, oh, cool. Actually, not upset by that. That's not really good. I know what I'm doing.
I was going to start whipping up with Jar Jar, Jarr, knowledge there. I know where he lies. I know it's fine. But that takes on an interesting part.
One of the things I want to talk about with this franchise is the Martin and everything that kind of came with it. I know we've had some big movies like the Star Wars franchise, like the Martin campaign. But when you look at what Jurassic Park brought out at the time, it was phenomenal. Like, one of the most, I might be a little bit biased here as well, because I kind of ripped off the logo.
One of the most iconic logos in fourth movie history as well, because it literally just, as soon as you see the colours, the sheer opening. Now everyone thinks I'm near the North, but before that, it was taken off drastically. And it was an, the imagery literally fits on everything from a poster t-shirt. Like, it doesn't look bad on anything that birds on.
And that kind of always does, like, reminisce with me. But the toy collection at the time, the toy collection was up there with some of the best toys, because normally when you get like a movie tie in, the kind of half-asset, and you get like a shit toy and, or a shit computer game, but with this, the toys were just fucking amazing. Like, the compound panel, what you used to get, like the compound where things used to break off and the dinosaurs could break through in certain things. That was just amazing.
I don't know if you guys ever corrected that in a lot, but a few of the dinosaurs were there, I'm not going to get them down, because I'll knock stuff all that. I did block a grumble horse. Yeah, don't start taking all collection down, Jesus Christ. You just have a pilot like forgoes and then a fall, I try to climb up with them.
And I think I did, but I don't think they were mine. You know that, like, I don't know if you guys are like this, but my grandparents tell us it was like the central, like, point of living. So we started the day, the end of the day, and we all had our toys that were on the grandparents. And I think they were part of the grandparent toys.
So I don't know who actually belonged to, but there was definitely Jurassic parks up there. A lot of T-Rexes. They were quite interactive as well, because I know it sounds really petty, but the things that you said pissed me off about, it was impossible to do it this way. But when you used to buy toys as a kid, and I got the same at the end, I bought the ghost poster toys.
The characters are animals and stuff weren't really size accurate, compared to the other animals. Like the T-Rex was quite small compared to, like, the figure saw the little, Alan Grant was about like six inches, and then the T-Rex was only eight inches bigger. It was like, how's he forcing him on him, if he's not just picked like a little bigger than him? But I know when he brought out the Lost World, they kind of fixed that, and he got the bigger T-Rex and the more side effects.
So the kind of, the less of my big right with the ghost posters was the marshmallow man was fucking the same size as most of the ghost posters. I was like, no, I want to realize the size of the marshmallow man, but it's not really practical. The size of the sliver? He wasn't much bigger than the bigger zither.
I really like the collection that's out now for AM Jurassic Park, and the way the toy manufacturer went with it, it still holds a lot of the same pattern as the original. I don't know what actually to make about this collection now, I think it's absolutely stunning. Her position to see that, I would have looked, if I started, I'd have to know if I'd be able to stop. I think my only great, because the earlier ones, especially the bigger design of the dinosaurs, they were made of rubber, and technically they felt and looked better.
Now it's all plastic, so it kind of looks shiny and not kind of realistic. But again, that's just me kicking off about kids' toys. No, no, for me, they'd be stealing a plastic packaging anywhere. The shiny aspect doesn't really bother as that much.
I mean, it was killing us last night with them loose figures, I'm not going to lie. So I don't know about you guys. Do you have any other collections when you were kids? I remember like McDonald's toys, it's probably the coolest I got, but of course they were always...
They were really mad. I kind of remember having a little Jeep, so they wanted to take a picture of that little guy. And you could wind it up and watch it. I might be imagining that entirely, but...
No, I feel like there's some truth in there. McDonald's did we do some fan and toys, man. I was a cool miner, we have now a toy, man. Yeah, McDonald's to him.
I was a cool miner, I was a cool miner. I was a cool miner, but my dad never went down there. Not a chance, but he did work in the sea of old soul. I get it, McDonald's was a treat, and it was a very rare treat.
Well, you just, did you have any other collections? I don't remember having any official toys. I probably had one of those, like the cheap bucket of dinosaurs. Right, souls.
I'd run them once, throw it in there, like some little trees and some little stones. I think it had to look like that. I don't remember actually having any of the official merch, but I don't know if... I don't know what would have been out.
At the time compared to other stuff that would have been majorly popular, whether that stuff would have been, I don't know, actually, I can't think. I know this is going to sound really weird and early and stuff, but I remember being at school, and if you had a Jurassic Park pencil case, you were like, uber cool, like everyone wanted the pencil case, I know it bad. But that's... Wow.
Yeah. I remember a time when, you remember the tin pencil cases. I remember the boy of all pencil cases, and if you had a Pepsi or a corner one, fuck me. Memories.
So, Joe, what's your favourite dinosaurs? No, it's my favourite dinosaur. You know what, I think, I'm going to go with the Triceratops. Sarah!
Sorry. And what? Ron, film. I think, I like to, I like to, I like to, in the scene in the first movie where it's like, sick.
Is that Triceratops? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Like, I watch the movie.
So, recently in, well, I watched the essay in 4K, just a bit reminiscent of the thing, and that Triceratops in 4K, it looks unbelievable. Oh, it's a bit totally practical as well. It's like, yeah. They were actually lying on it.
I haven't met it before. Oh, wow. But also, this is sort of stupid. I was really at the robot was.
That's not stupid, that's cool. I like robot was. The robot like Matilda was like sort of Triceratops. Yeah.
And for Sartre, and I really liked that as well. So I was like, that's a cool show. Plus, all rangers, you know, Triceratops. Little Ranger, come on.
Yeah, yeah. And at the, the Triceratops that's lying down and breathing in and out, it was, if early feature it, when the Jurassic Park World opened at Universal Studios, and they do like this tour, I can't remember if I shared the story before we talked about Jurassic Park on the past, but oh my god, did my dad throw a hissy fit when they tried to get him involved in the shore. Or he shifted it, he thought it was fucking embarrassing, he went on like a teenager. All because they were like, go and touch this tr, like this, triceratops.
Go and touch it, and he's like, fuck no. He went on the fuck pictures. Small man. Don't go any without him, sorry.
He said the movie was like, nope, I'm not gonna get knocked. Well don't use something, what was your favourite? So I, I've got, so Triceratops used to be buying as a kid, and it was purely because of Sarah from, I'm a more tight, absolutely adult character. But now it's a toss up between Brongley Saurus and a Brackiosaurus, even though they are too very similar, but obviously very different inside.
I did have to have Google to make sure I was saying it right. But that's in the wrong all the time. So this is one, Brackiowd memories from you there. That's not, that's not where I go.
Yay! I know it is, there we go. So I don't know if anyone can remember this one, Fallen Kingdom. It's just a little gift.
I'm not done at all, so you can have a little look and see. This is Sammy's dinosaur, favourite dinosaur. Say it, help me, I don't wanna die. I would help you, I would go through the fire.
I will go through the fire. A word. I'm just dragging it out, I'll go wrong. Let's go friends, let's go, I don't wanna go, I don't wanna go.
Oh yeah, sorry. I kind of had England that was inside that lined up, sorry. Yeah, it's one of the two very similar, like the way that they look and it's just one's bigger than the other. I think that is the Brackiosaurus.
Yeah, it's just kind of a little other front. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and you must have. Well, that one, oh my god.
No, mine was the same as George. Like, actually, I was a triceratist, top spong as a kid, a grown-up and seen it in Jesse Park, the first one just blew my mind, like actually seen it. And all, and I think I've said this in the past, like, same Jesse Park on the big screen, or even seen Jesse Park for the first time. And it was before the time of like big spoilers or everything that came up, because the trailers for Jesse Park, the original one, gave very little away.
It showed you a little clips, but you didn't actually see a picture of the T-Rex in any of the trailers or any of the clips. Everything kind of came, like, because Spielberg was a master for it. Spielberg at the time, when he released the movie trailer, it was very basic. Like the George one trail was very basic as well.
Well, it doesn't need like the whole small-bin mirrors effect. Yes. So it's like, yeah, and it's like, if you're gonna see something, you're just gonna see like a shadow. You're not gonna, it's not gonna be like the full and full effect.
Why can we go back to that style of movie trailers? Yeah. Why do I have to watch the whole fucking film before I actually go and see it, it paid money to go and see it. Yeah.
Oh, it's so sad. Oh, it's crazy. I think that is the internet, the problem with people ripping all the information before hand. Yeah.
It's so bad, because it's not even just the trailers. It's like images. We're not looking at it to show you, you know, for example, the one that's peed us off this week, the new Superman outfit. Yeah.
See that shit until I actually see the film, I'm like, what? What do you mean? It's just the generation I'm from? No, I understand.
Unless it's an official image I always think, but like we've got, like, running the New York North community, I don't think we've realized we've got actually in trouble and messages from movie companies, saying you're sharing illegal images without permission, we can get your group shut down. So, it's not doing it to people? Yeah. So that's why we have to keep an eye on them, take pictures down and all people think it'll be in fun, so on and stuff like that.
I mean, we are in a way, but it's just, it's just, it's sad. It's like, there's no mystery anymore. And that's what you got with these movies, nothing but mystery, like, shit, did you really think that you were going to see a fucking giant, like, full-on T-rex on your screen? Because should have shit added?
No. So, going back, because Jess, like, come up with quite a good point earlier on, I didn't want to jump on it just then. So, which one out with the full franchise, if you take away the original, because that's gonna be honest, if we can all put our hands in heart, obviously the original is by far the great, the great movie of the franchise, unless anyone's got a different opinion, out of the others, what would you, other five or the four that you were seeing? Um, what would you see is the best ones, or your favorite ones, so I'll go with Jess first, because she looked prime to answer that one.
Oh, and then it's kind of right, because it's like, I love it, but I hate it, at the same time, but it is probably out of all of them, and I'll probably go back and watch them all since third one. Right, okay. Oh, well, if I could cut out all of Talyoni's screeching, that would be nice. Yeah, that'd be nice.
But it's the one of the few ones where they actually made the option to give you different dinosaurs. Yeah. They're not using the same tropes. I'm pretty sure I can't remember if T-Rex even ever throws up at any point in that one.
It's just like it gets done in, it's kind of sore, it's like, kills it. Yeah, I was pretty think, it's definitely a point to watch that one again. But it's the whole scene when it gets to the bird cages, where they're kind of like, really weird moment where it's like, is it the guy or not? And then it just sort of lumbers out, and like, oh, no, we're in there, but it's like, oh, I'm not from half.
It was nice to see them, because they hadn't really featured them in the previous two. Maybe it's like properly if they go into like, how much they're when they can fly. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, because in essence, there meant to be action movies or like the adventure movies, I think, but there's two movies in the franchise, where I would class as horrors.
The first one, as you said, is just Park Three. I do think that is quite scary and has a quite good horror element to it. Like almost like a beat, like, it's almost not the same, but like alien in essence where the bass is kind of on and down and the tranic chord. And then, I can't believe it.
Now I've only just watched it, forgotten Kingdom, isn't it? I've found him. Or in Kingdom, that's the one. Shouldn't have forgotten.
What? Well, I don't think it's about film, not for rewatching it. It's just Prash. No, no, no, no, no, but to be honest, I'm taking the first note of the movie, because if I start talking about what I personally think about Chris Bratt, that will go on in a different tangent altogether.
Well, it would be on a completely different trajectory. So that's, yeah, you're right. Yeah, I do think that one is, that one is in essence a really scary horror movie compared to like an action and an adventure movie type thing. I'm hoping to get the horror vibes from that, because that was in the trailer, for like, I remember the trailer for it.
And it's the folks on that scene with the little girls in the bed, and it's just creeping in, and the hand just goes like, well, the claw, with the edge and claws from claws to a front of the pole. So you know, like horror movie vibes versus like, in all our action movie, still not great, but the crime. Yeah, the portrait. I'll defend it.
I don't mind it, but what about you two? What would you say is your favorite other than the first? Well, I've only really watched two of them today. And it's just one of the things you just mentioned, as an old-time god, Jurassic Park 3, such as fucking hell, this isn't putting around with the action.
And tell it that, it'll come out the far, kind of cool. Yeah. That's really well- I think it's part of the park 3, it has possibly one of the worst scenes ever, but it's amazingly comical when it falls, is it? The flosser on the plane, yes.
That's my first, my first note, Alan dreaming about Raptors question. Why? It's too early, it's the winner. Hello, Alan.
If you watch the full franchise, I think he has this unhealthy obsession or fetish with Raptors, like from the real box, first tell them when he's describing to the little kids about what the Raptors would do. And I know there's a lot we can learn from digging and, and born and stuff, but I still don't understand how they would know that how a Raptor would hunt, how a Raptor would attack and eat, just because they've got a claw. Oh, no, I just think you just absolutely despise is that like little Baratov kid? It's like, no, it's good, you're right.
You're not having a lot of it. If you want to respond to your little kid, I'm going to give you some trauma. He's the claw. I don't understand.
If the kid's parent was there, why didn't the kid's parents stay in? Because they probably had enough of a sh**. No, you take it, Alan. So let's punish the little rat for just being an inquisitor.
It doesn't look that scary. Yeah. Sorry. I'm going to go lost.
I'm going to go lost, well, I think that was probably the best. It's a total between lost, well, and the actual fourth one, Jurassic World, because Jurassic World did a lot of good stuff. I'm going to give it the time. Yeah.
I'm going to go to Jurassic World, so I'm going to take a look. I do like Jurassic World. I think it is clear into the formula. It's rehashing the same story from the first, but just doing it in a slightly more successful way when it comes to the part where it's already open.
And I love the spin where they're doing like kids and people are bored of dinosaurs now, because it's like, oh, we've seen them that much now. What can we do to amp it up? So interesting. Yeah.
Wait, what? Well, I guess I'm going to go to Star Wars. Yeah. Four, five, and six are the dress.
They've literally done the same thing in the Justice of the Star Wars movies. I'd say we're going to redo the three originals between a little bit, but they are technically the same three films then again. Because basically, because the lost world is basically what would happen if dinosaurs come to mainland population and we see that in a very tactical way. It's all quite down.
We don't see the full chaos that we get in the two or the other ones. It's more like just in the T-Rex moving around, scaring your things. It's something like that, the dog type thing. In the dog?
What the fuck? Honestly, like movies where the dog dies and the dog is not justified, like John Wick totally justified. Just what world? Not all.
No, not the dog. It was just a scooby snack. That was fine. What about you, Sami?
Up until recently, I always died in a hill for three. Like I always said three was such a good movie, had such a good intensity, a teal on your side, like, because she is fucking annoying. I've only had some, especially the fact that you've got to see different dinosaurs. However, I really, really love.
And I think it's when the newest ones came out that it's like, did nobody ever listen to Ian Martin? Did nobody ever sit there and just go, hang on a minute. This absolute gorgeous one of them actually has something going on here. And then I watched the second one, The Lost World, and I fucking fell hard for that movie.
Like, I thoroughly enjoyed it. The fact that the cast was fucking brilliant. And it's a Jewish young mower. You've got Jack Gorbum actually coming back.
You had people with potholes with it. Like, there was a fucking stellar cast in there. And it was just, it was fun. Yeah.
It was fun. Who was not even, what, not annoying in the slightest? Like, I thoroughly enjoyed him in it. And it's ever since then, I'm like, that is like my, after the first one, I love that movie so much.
But yeah, nobody listens to Ian Martin, did they? No. I was thinking about watching what they're watching. I was like, everyone just treats them like shit.
He's just like, that's the bad idea. This is a rescue mission. We are in trouble. We need to get out of here.
We don't have stood away. And she's just acting like a spy. And I was like, this dude, watch people die? Like, people fucking die.
He's probably like traumatized by the whole event. They're all just like, silly, holy and mow. Silly, Ian. You've got nothing to worry about.
We just get the pictures. He's like, what the fuck? Everything, and everything Ian has said in the past. Guess what?
Kim fucking true. But to be fair though, there's a life lesson in this as well. Don't be sleazy. Don't be, don't ask like a little bit of a creep.
And they might listen to you because to be fair, it is just, who's in oil? Like every scene he's on. Like any woman that comes up or looks at him, he's like, oh hi. Like even in the last one, Dominion, where he sees the pilot that is very, very younger than him.
And he's just like, oh hi. It gives it a look at him when he's done. He's like, oh, don't be sure. I was like, oh, so they're keeping the creep thing going all the way through.
When it comes to Jeff, I just think if you were Ego and like Treetness, I don't know why. I think he's an Ego maniacal person who does. To be fair though, if I did what Jeff Gordon didn't Disney movies, I would be kind of something. You couldn't fall out of the slightest.
Well, I'm standing here on stage over the line of the status. You know, I'll die on a hill for Jeff Gordon. Like, no, this line is like amazing in these movies. Um, like, it's certainly like context-wise, like the first movie that don't have like, Ellie being the one that is like, oh no, I've broken my ankle.
I'm gonna have to lay out for the rest of me. Did you have to go all the way to the section? Like, the sexity, like, damsel in distress. Like, he wrecks at Tommy.
I have to be related to that. Come on. He's chosen to talk to the buttons. Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be a absolute movie.
He was supposed to die. Oh, right. Yeah, so I remember that. He was on the hot ones, to be a viewer if you've ever liked hot ones.
He's fantastic on that. He's sorely like hot ones. But yeah, he was supposed to die. And then he's like, what if I just, you know, with a flare in a run off and that's kind of heroic.
Which is why he doesn't do anything the rest of the film. He's barely getting the scenes. And it was like, wasn't supposed to be there? He was supposed to be written out.
And I was like, it's kind of cool. When you get the iconic show open. Yeah, that's true. I love when it comes to doing any trivia or like facts on the best one because it's so enriched in like so many stories of on set and the actual animatronics that are used with the with the dinosaurs.
I saw recently doing the rounds again on a bass move. The either I think it was the malfunction of the T-Rex where it's because it got absolutely so wet in the rain. And then it's animatronics like function started to kick from start to finish and they couldn't end up stopping the sequence. So all of them had to sit there and just with the T-Rex to be done with it.
What is doing? But this is like full size. I think it was just the head. Yeah, it was just wrong.
It's still a little lad. Because I said like when he goes on to the truck and we fight into it. That's when he screwed up. He was just getting progressively in that pubic kids just stuck in the scene.
He's like, you know, I've gone down the wrong path. That's the thing. He's been coming down the way. I think he's.
I think the first one is similar thing. I was watching a couple of the documentaries today and this woman is talking about the third one. I know it's the actor's name is the guy who's also in the Green Mile. I guess I decided to start a step ever in Green Mile.
Oh, and he's a friend. He was a French guy. He's oh, the rest in peace. He's dead.
Oh, I don't think my name is all. I know he was distracted as well. He was saying my unset. They gave him like a full talk and saying like these are full machines by the way.
There is every risk when you're in all of these scenes and saying you could get seriously hurt. It's like I know they look like fun dinosaurs, but they are serious machines. It's like we're not sure if something might screw up. He's like, yeah, I got the terror in there.
He's like that's the legend of a terror. Yeah. Because we didn't know. The work the craftsmanship that was was insured is something I just you can't wrap your head around.
This took place in the 90s, early 2000s. Now it is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you can pull that shit out. But this is like the 90s, like we're coming off the back of the 80s where everything was practical. And it's like, I know we do go hard on the practical effects on these podcasts, because I know me and some of you are big fans of the practical effects side and think it does learn more to what you get at times.
But I think you can't do these movies without Special Effects, without the CGI, but I think the always do get it. We always get the good balance as well. And where they can use like in the close up sort of like in the smaller dinosaurs and stuff like that. They don't cheap out and just use CGI.
They always use like a model or like a put it or even like the animatronics. And it kind of gives you that warm feeling in your stomach as well, which is, I get it. I totally go with me. I do.
It's like a woman being like all the where I'm at and where I'm like sitting in time right now. Like, it's not to 2024. I'm sitting in the middle of the 90s right now when I'm walking the living forest. I think we could be one of those as well.
Yeah. Sorry, there was quite a lot of the guidelines watching the documentaries and it was when the guys were running about seeing the first movie as predominantly practical effects. But then a secondary team came in to like start doing the CGI stuff. And one of them sat there and he was chatting to the camera and he's just kind of like, we literally watched like essentially our extinction happen with that moment when the show does what they could do.
It's like it is literally the intro is like, we're not going to be in this industry much longer. Now we can see what they can do digitally. We can do practically. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The thing is, I'm only storytelling. CGI just can't cut it in some places. There will always be a players for them in movies because you will get even directors coming up now. They will appreciate what's been.
So it's, you know what I mean? I think I get where they were coming from at the time. Like that must have been absolutely so wrenching to watch your work then being put on your computer and like, oh look what we do. It's almost like a slap in the face.
Yeah. I mean, bless them. I think when I was watching it, they did go on. They were still the predominant factor in the first movie.
But you said, like, as the movies went on, less and less, there's practical role in CGI. It's about, you know, when you get like, press, press, press, press, press, press. Where you feel like you could literally, you want to touch it because you can see all the cats there and you know it's a tangible. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, oh, I like, I talk to you. I want to talk to you. I want to give it up.
I want to keep the limbs at the same time. So if anyone's listening to our watching, if you can get a clip of the stuff, I want to touch it. I can use that. I totally agree.
It adds such a good depth to your movies. Like, it's not just Jurassic Park. I think every film that's been like, really successful has good practical effects. And I'm not going to say a lot of the things, because a lot of the things have a huge amount of practical.
Oh, yeah. Um, Starship Troopers, I'm talking about the week, the amount of stuff they produced for that. They're still using Hollywood. You know, that goes to show how effective it can be.
You can see me like, I'm going to say this is not a better chat. By the last issue too, they relied more on practical effects in the second movie than the first. And I feel like some of the horror and the gore just comes off so much nicer. It's so much more effective.
It's just real acting. Yeah. Acting. People respond to stuff they can touch and feel.
And it's, yeah, give something more authentic, doesn't it? And it's, it's crisper. It's cleaner. It's all.
And if I'm going to call with like franchises as well, if you look at like what they did with the Star Wars franchise, like the first three and all the Lucas couldn't keep his midst off them, but when you go back to the original, the original cots, the practical effect that they used, like see, I don't think they were bad or needed top note like they did it. But that's probably why the prequel's lost a little bit of the magic because he went crazy happy with the CGI instead of just being with what kind of worked in the original one. Yeah. No, you talk about it because in the original, in the original it's so it's gritty and it's, because it's not, it's not shiny and it's not bright.
And it hasn't had a like a paintbrush run over the top of it. Whereas that's how fundamentalists looks like the first all in the same fantasy, like, oh fuck, who got paintbrush out on this one? Because like it's all bright and shiny and it's like, oh Christ, why is it in the chrome? Yeah, are we still in the same kind of world?
Well, I like to say that side as well, because in the movies like from like one or six as well, there is some iconic deaths in the franchises going through. What is your favorite like kill, shall we say? And as Jaws gotten gleefully at the screen now that more. Oh, no, I'm trying to think, I think like obviously the most iconic one, I know you've got the cute double.
No, we don't. So I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it on the toilet. Come on.
You cannot. No, no, who? Who just went right? This guy's going to run in the bathroom, totally normal thing, right?
What he dies on the shit as well. I'm just glad he's doing it. So my thoughts and like about that death, same with just kind of like, she was thinking, like, look, I know I'm going to shit myself from, I'm going to do this with dignity. I'm going to do it on the toilet.
I'm not going to do it in my own hands. It's still rare a little bit. Could you still come pull up? Yeah, she was getting down.
Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? This is where my morbid brain goes to. How did he die?
So did the dinosaur chump him in half and swallow the top part? Or did he just crunch him and spit him out? That's where my brain goes to him. So you're trying to work at the T-Rex with a spit or a swallow?
What's in him? When I've rolled all those shows up, she's like, they both pick up. She's like, what are they doing? This is the Sean Aston thing.
It's like, he didn't go to a bump to it. She would be called Bob from Stranger Things. Exactly. You're right.