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On today's part of my take old school style PFT and I just the two of us breaking down week 16 in the NFL, crazy week, crazy weekend football, we had Saturday football, we had Sunday football, Christmas day football, we have people clinching teams, clinching spots, teams dying, everything happened, and we're going to break it all down fastest two minutes as well. And who's back of the week? Hey, this is PFT from part of my take a terrible call by the refs, but back breaking interception in the red zone, brutal clock management at the end of a half. When the season has you ready to snap, don't break snap into a slim gym instead.
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Welcome to part of my take today is Monday, December 26th week 16 the last issue on their Christmas and let me be the first to wish you a happy new year. We start in Minnesota where stop me if you've heard this before, but the Vikings played in a dramatic game that came down to the wire. The game was in hand until Saquan Charles Barkley broke loose running to the video scoreboard before anyone could catch him. Damn, Daniel back and again with the comeback as Daniel hit Daniel Bellinger that is for the two point conversion and a tie game late in the fourth.
And that's where our story always ends as a new nightmare Kirk cousins brought the Vikings down the field for a last second field goal and Greg the egg Joseph said I'm involved in a criminal conspiracy and it's called the Vikings being 12 and three the Vikings 27 giants 24. We go over to Kansas City where in a touching tribute to my dear friend Chief Sahalik coke Carol says he's always asking people to hand over and lose change. Patrick Mahoho Holmes said I'll be dying if that pattern doesn't look like a little orange chimney and slid right into it. And speaking of jolly fat guys in a red suit, Andy Reid has a big sack full of tricks as he let his chestnuts roast on an open dumpster fire.
That is the AFC West. No effects fit said this team might be on the decline, but I'm not going out like a punk. But Kadary is Tony Soprano sliced and diced his way into the end zone like it was Ralphie Sifarado's body after he might have burned out stable with Tony's horse inside of it. And speaking of being so hungry, he could eat a horse.
What did Andy Reid say when he opened up his oven? I owe my chief's 24. Let's see how it's done. We head over to Chicago where the wind whipped across Soldier Field in an old name dominated the game as Devin Iron Mike Singletary made the monster of the midway look like Elmo on Sesame Street.
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The letter of the day is W as Josh Allen and the bills win their third straight AFC title. Also shout out to all the other dads that are stuck watching Sesame Street all over all the time over Christmas to New Year's and the bills are Dawson Knocks Knocks Knocks on the Super Bowl Store as no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo bills bills bills 35 bears 13. I can't get that fucking Sesame Street song out of my head deed. We go out to Santa Claus Clara and a Christmas Eve battle with playoff implications.
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Taylor hi Nicki Minaj got hit the head by Nick Bosa like it was a shoe thrown by Cardi P and George Kittle drummer boy said I have two scores for you up up up up as a 49ers were prockin around Christian McCaffery as Slay Slay McClouders making it rain deer. The 49ers may already have five golden rings, but they're looking for another 49ers 37 the commander's 20 down to Dallas for a clash in the NFC East and a chance to come in from the cold as Garner men shoe shoe shoe shoe shoe shoe shoe shoe shoe. I don't know was there to remind the people he could still sling it CD lam CD silence of the lambs eight Eagles secondary with some fava beans and a nice candy as the Cowboys hung tough late and Michael Parsons yeah remember that guy decided to show up back again this season helping big D deliver a big W. Unfortunately for the children of North America the game ran late meeting Mike McCarthy wasn't able to moonlighted his job climbing down chimneys and eating cookies across the US Cowboys 40 Eagles 34.
We go down to Charlotte where many were saying beware the Panthers were a live dog and son of San tonal might not be a serial coach killer after all as Steve Wilkes do it is willing to go full-send milking every last drop out of this Carolina team and I can't see real good is that the Lions defensive line are the crummy up in insula because it is very susceptible to a Russian attack even without camp booting at the helm Jared turn your head and golf drop the ball but not before his Oscar win nuts hauling in not one not two but three two days and a losing effort the Panthers 37 the Lions 23 took Pittsburgh when we lost a legend this weekend my good friend Franco Harris the Immaculate reception the start of a dynasty rest easy Franco what a wonderful tribute to a wonderful man speaking of tributes the Raiders season is a tribute to 10 Kennedy because this car is off the road fully submerged at death is imminent the game came down to the final drive as Kenny Pickett shaved the Raiders secondary down to the skin and George Charles Pickens wrote a perfect ending for the steel city Steelers 13 writers 10 we go down to Miami as there was white powder falling from the sky like it was 1983 all over again in the first corner to a found Jalen message in a waddle who put the sting on the Packers early where he most earned onions couldn't catch up to Wisconsin brat Aaron Rodgers in the second half as that's one uh that's two uh that's a three uh interceptions AJ Bob Dylan can tell the times they are changing as math la floor has finally gotten through that French haircut of his that you can go for it on fourth and short inside that 10 yard line the Packers 23 the dolphins 20 acapellas acapella james here we go be a zoom standing on the corner in the corner James Winston down in Nola such a fun sight to see it's just on my lord and he's feeling going to be hard to keep the clean sheet come on man he's gone television hank is never gassed up all right forgot to mention saints go marching 1710 that acapella stunk oh my god week 16 when it comes to choosing the coverage you need state farm is a pro at dishing out assist they've got an award-winning state farm mobile app and local agents to help you elevate your insurance scheme state farm with the assist coverage options are selected by the customer availability and eligibility vary by state okay week 16 in the books um that acapella was terrible pft and i are on zoom it's an old school show it's just the two of us shout out max he's producing um but it's just the two of us we're gonna break down week 16 a great week and weekend of football uh and we are on zoom so bear with us if anything happens uh that acapella though that was i feel bad for everyone how to listen to that it was pretty bad but yet and uh we're not only really on zoom but we're also bi-coastal right now so you're west coast i'm east coast there's a little bit of lag time in it i was thinking that we do beastie boys next time standing on the corner james witson down and i think i think a rap version of that might be that might be for the best next time we're remote yes i agree i agree all right so let's hop into it because we got a lot to discuss um and i'm excited to talk about all this football we we didn't watch for the first time all season we didn't watch any of the games together which means we have the freshest takes which is nice uh we'll do it in chronological order we'll talk about the bucks cardinals whatever garbage this game is the bucks the bucks play the worst games of football possible they are the inverse of the team that we'll start with the minnesota vikings who play the best games of football ever so vikings 27 giants 24 the minnesota vikings are now 12 and 3 they have 11 one-score victories or 11 and l and one-score games that is an nfl record every single game they play rules uh it has dramatics one way or the other this one with a 60 was a 62 yarder i think a 61 yard field goal so i actually i was thinking about this because it feels like the giants lose a lot of games on heartbreaking field goals and uh it's true so since 2018 the giants have lost three games on field goals of 61 yards or farther which is crazy because i think there have been like 12 field goals of 61 yards or farther kicked in the history of the nfl so yeah pretty wild it is wild in this game like the vikings had it the giants came back two-point conversion saquon barkly we did say sometimes we get things right remember we said for amount rush more the vikings do give up explosive runs that's what happened for them to the giants to come back in this game i have a couple questions for you off this game because you know at this point we are it's um verbal meme just like the the mexican standoff in the office it's me you and the and vikings fans we just got our guns pointing each other at all times i can't even tweet i tweeted that the end zone looked like garbage the end zone did look like garbage it was confusing as fuck they had white end zones with a little strip of purple and then the white out of bounds and it was like you it made no sense watching it being like what's in bounds what's out about i tweeted that picture vikings fans just jump down my throat i respect that though because we are in this standoff um but i have a question for you is kirk cousins maybe clutch i mean kirk cousins has been objectively a very good quarterback that's here for the most part he's like he's he's good the vikings are good they keep it close he hasn't made he's being like slightly more reckless than he was in years past and that's why they got that new coach it was essentially to like to unlock kirk cousins just you know what it's like that movie she's all that he's taking kirk's glasses off right now and he's about to must up his hair a little bit once the hair gets must up and let down then kirk cousins is fully capable of fucking up the playoffs but um he's like he's a little bit more risk taking and less risk a person has been in the past so i do think that he's becoming a little more clutch a little more clutch so the risk taking leads me my second point and vikings fans are probably gonna do like what's going on right now because these guys are just what are they doing why are they talking about the vikings this way they hate us we hate them whatever i think just in jefferson should be the mvp the nfl okay and i'm saying that i know it's not numbers based like patrick mohomes it's always a quarterback but the the risk taking and what kirk cousins able to do they're there seems like in all these games these one-score games the vikings get in a situation where they're like well we just need just in jefferson to do something fucking awesome and he will bail us out and he does it because he's so fucking good and i honestly think if you if you did it by like most valuable player what would that team look like without without that player yeah obviously the chiefs would be a totally different i think i think the vikings have like four or five less wins without jefferson because he is always there for huge plays he made the big catch to get them into field he is like it's it's essentially their offense like has kennel connell deserves a ton of credit because of what he's done this season and they've gone from a team that last year made all the mistakes to a team that doesn't make all the mistakes and wins these close games but just in jefferson it really does feel like a break glass in case of emergency just throw a ball to just in jefferson and let him be the best wide receiver in the league and then we'll win the game yeah so i i don't hate to take the he should be evip he has he just surpassed randy mosses team record for 60 i think randy had 1600 receiving yards chris carter had 122 catches in season and jefferson just broke that so now he's 209 yards away from calvin johnson's record so i think anytime anytime a player breaks one of the big obviously if like a quarterback goes out there throws for the most yards in the history of the NFL and he's on a good team he's probably gonna win MVP so let's throw that one out there but i'm saying like a running back if you get if you get the single season yardage total record in a season you should be MVP if a receiver breaks calvin johnson's record if you get the season record for most receiving yards i think that you can definitely make the argument that you should be MVP especially if your team is in the playoffs and especially if you're winning all these close games and your offense has been clutch i i don't have a problem with that take it all i kind of like that yeah it's also a wide receiver but i also like it because yeah he's he's so good i like it a little bit secretly just because if the Vikings end up having success in the playoffs we can definitely undermine kurt cousins and be like well he just had jefferson throw it up to him anyway any quarterback you went with him but some of these plays archive you just throw it in it is kirk deserves credit because like you said he is taking more risks than he used to because he used to take no risks and it would just be like all right if that's not there i'm gonna dump it down or take a sack but yeah the Vikings are 12 and 3 they play fun games their defense is still a very big issue i look back because daniel jones through for 334 yards and if you look back the Vikings in the last like month and a half like just not very good no offense to daniel jones but not very good quarterbacks if i if we had to like put him in the maybe not the best passers daniel jones does stuff with his legs but daniel so these are not very good quarterbacks that went off against the Vikings daniel jones 334 yards mike white 369 yards mac jones 382 yards and calamari 326 yards yeah i mean their defense has issues yeah they're definitely susceptible i was seeing some comments about the giants out there earlier today i think it was our turtle our friend jerry ferrara said that the giants should build around daniel jones and saquon in the future because like they've earned the right based on their play this season to be built around that's a really terrible way to build it's such a hilarious way to build it does sound like a caller into the mike princesser show or something like frances would hang up on after like five seconds but to his point though like daniel jones has kind of in his own weird way played like to the maximum of his ability under dables dables dables got everything he can out daniel jones just like koc has gotten everything that he needs out of kurt cousins up to this point so far the difference is that i think daniel jones is like a probably a great backup quarterback probably like top two or three backup in the league but i don't think i think most giants fans would agree that like this is a fun season but let's not let's not go making like long term future let's not get married to each other here do you know what it is daniel jones is uh great if he wants to come back at a not expensive price and just be like all right let's see because you know they've played themselves probably out of it you know they have played themselves out of a top traffic so they're not gonna get one of the top three quarterbacks or whatever next year but if you're like hey he's played himself to a point where i don't know what the numbers would look like like 15 million a year 20 million i don't know i don't know i'm not a capologist but that feels like you know hey you deserve something and we could win games with you if we fix some other things but don't don't go around giving daniel jones like a huge contract also brian dables look the goatee um he just looks so awesome i mentioned on twitter he looks like a guy who rides a motorcycle eats wings and takes big dumps and uh some guy was like what what's like cool about big dumps it's like dude that's what guys do like a guy like brian table he probably takes a big dump at halftime instead of giving a speech to the team he's just like and he probably is like hey guys look at my big dump and everyone gets fired up and goes out there they should make an NFL licensed shirt form to wear on the sidelines like a harley giant's mixture and then on the back it says like if you can read this the bitch fell off yeah or or ask grass or what is it ask gas or grass no grass don't worry no one rides for free yeah he just i don't know when he decided like i'm just going to do the the goatee and the sweatshirt but um yeah he looks like he could be like uh paul jr's understudy at orange county choppers and just get yelled at all day because they didn't make like the the front tire big enough when he puts the uh the beanie on and then he pulls the hoodie over said i don't think there's any coach in the NFL that looks less like a head coach than he does like he blends in on the sidelines you're not he looks like a like a roadie for flea that's just like in charge like setting up the equipment on the sidelines he doesn't he doesn't stand out now that being said he's a fucking awesome coach but he does i think he needs to like figure out his look long term i think this is a good look for him right now but every coach has to have a thing like he has to figure out if he's going to be a visor guy or a cap guy long term because the beanie and the hoodie can play short term but eventually you're gonna have to figure out whether or not you want to rock that visor yeah you want people taking you seriously or not like there could be you could definitely see speaking of frances like if they take a bad loss like what does this guy try to do why doesn't he why does he shave his goate and take off the hoodie like he hasn't earned that he hasn't earned looking like that um last thing i had on this game and we can segue into the next game um tj tj hawkinson which i like to say hawkinson like the club uh was incredible and it's it's that second touchdown catch he made was awesome and it also just was happening at the exact same time that the lion's season was was like diminishing in a dust and i don't know if they want to mulligan on that but holy shit he's really really good and he's become such a weapon for the Vikings and like makes them even more scary on offense and like they already are very very scary but to have that extra element that they didn't have before is crazy dude yeah the lion's up zilster though so they he caught three touchdowns and also the lion's problem isn't on offense right now the last problem is it's on the other side of the ball but it was on yeah it was on sunday where you want to go to lion's game because that was so lion's uh lost panthers win 37 lion's 23 uh afterwards Dan Campbell was seen going off the field um shaking Steve Wilkes's hand and what was his exact quote i'm pulling it up right now i think he said that was an absolute ass kicking that's a fucking great job right in his face and it was yes they got their ass kicked so i mean that's another example of Dan Campbell being the best loser in the NFL he's falling back into his own ways where every time he loses he says or does something that makes us be like fuck he's cool i wish i could play i wish i could lose for that guy yeah what a cool guy to lose for uh i i don't i don't like the fact that he like he has gone viral so many times with this thing but every time he does something like this um it's not like he knows that the camera's right there Dan Campbell is not aware of where the cameras are he would have said this like that's just how he communicates with people he like if you kick his ass he'll like slap you really hard on the back and say like great job you beat the shit out of me uh and they did they got their ass kicked hard they gave up 240 yards on the ground uh before halftime yeah 320 total rushing yards 43 and it was only in 43 rushes so 43 rushes 320 yards three touchdowns they got it absolutely shoved down their throat it also Jared our good friend Jared slightly biased um did have a red zone fumble that was his first turn over in six games which kind of tells you like where the lions are at in terms of this season and they're probably over achieving a little bit because you need Jared to play perfect and even one mistake can derail the entire game obviously it was more than just that mistake but they had another another drive that ended in the red zone but it i don't know if it was like a combo of the lions overlooking the panthers or just the amount of energy they've spent to because like it's almost like in a basketball game when you're down 20 and a team comes all the way back and they can't finish to come back it's like the lions have used so much energy in the last month and a half getting back to 500 and then they get there and they're it's going to be a let down emotional let down at some point especially with two NFC North games to finish the season but that sucked i mean it sucked for a lot a great for the panthers can easily win the NFC South like they are it's insane that Steve Wilkes he's four in one is an interim head coach he probably should get the job i'm a little pissed because if they make the playoffs might take from a month ago where i was like i'm already calling my panthers my comeback team of the year there you can't be a comeback team if you make the playoffs right no but you were you were like early on that take though too early yeah you were too early yeah uh yeah it's a good possibility right now so we don't know what's going to happen in the Tampa Bay Arizona game but neither let's be honest neither of these teams really deserves to win this game uh the the care line of panthers making the playoffs at six and ten would be pretty hilarious i don't know if that's still possible mathematically they need to i think they need to beat the box i think they need to beat the box so they have to get to release seven wins okay well still yeah that would be fine i'll be fine with that like a seven a seven and ten panther team making the playoffs um sand Arnold he's got some pepper in step now i don't know what's going on like the guy can run i i actually i keep forgetting about that one run that he had it was thursday night football you remember that when he was on the jets and he was playing against the bronchos that was a game where Blake portals accidentally gave everybody covid and so sand Arnold got in had like a 60 yard touchdown run in that game i forgot that he's quick he's got like he's sneaky fast he's got functional mobility out there it's it's funny watching him run because he's he does still have the big head that like bottles back and forth with every step that he takes but the dude is quick and you're right Steve Wilkes he's i think he's earned the right to be the panthers head coach next year i think at this point if you don't bring him back i think the players that are here right now that are coming back next year are gonna be pissed off i think they're gonna be really upset about that and they have like a good little young nucleus and they're you know i guess this will kind of screw they got draft picks obviously for trading christian kaffrey sand Arnold is also a case where when we had that conversation now you weren't giving up on baker and i was like i don't think i'm i'm giving up on sand Arnold and it's pretty much because he had adam geese and mat rule is his coaches and like that has to be like that that's like adopting a dog that's like this dog went through the ringer like this dog had the worst owners possible so we don't know what like it's a very sweet dog but it also could bite your face off like so we don't know that's that's what having adam geese and mat rule is your head coaches for your formative years as a quarterback and duty so who do you think's had it worse him or baker who's had huge accent great williams freddy kitchens kevin stefansky and mat rule kevin stefansky's the one that's like okay that was he was in a good foster for a while they bought a flow they were treating them well and that but everyone else it's like he might as well have been just like tied up to a fence and left outside yeah and and you'd have to throw in the fact that baker even just being with shamak vay for three weeks is probably correct at all like he's he's uh what's his name the dog was where he sees him along yeah he sees him like shamak vay will fix your broken quarterback in record time and hey this guy looks awesome but yeah sam darnold i mean it did help that the team ran for what would you say 240 yards in the first half in the first half yeah i think that makes quarterbacking a little easier it probably does but do we need to have the conversation about the lines though or the other lines soft dude that game was cray they just they got it was instant too and it's not like the it's not like the panther's like chop a hover nice nice player whatever like deonty foreman or deonty is that nice thing is my name right deonty foreman like these aren't robo running backs these are just and they it was watching on red zone it was just flash oh panther's 40 yard run panther's 30 yard run like they just it was crazy to watch the lines revert to the september lines that's really what it was their defense went right back to where the season started and we know they can't win that way because that's how they started one in six or one in seven whenever it was uh so i'm looking at the scenarios right now you're right the panthers do have to go at least seven and ten if they they just have to win one of their next two games and then just based on how the NFC South has worked out that might be enough if they just beat Tampa bay and they get to seven wins i think that they'll make the playoffs at that point that's incredible and honestly think i think that rule like the whole season i think that the panthers are a better team in the box right now i would rather watch the box play a game of football than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers play it's also crazy um and who knows how these you know i mean like game plans and everything but remember last week when the panthers ran it like 14 times against the Steelers it's like why didn't you you guys have a formula you just run the ball and then play action dj more and it's open and sam darnell can do something here and there like you know what you have that's why the Steelers game made no sense but i guess it's any given sunday thing i'm i'm sad about the lines now the lions it feels like it's gonna be pretty tough especially because they have to go to lambo week 18 and we'll get to that but that zombie fucker is very much alive they uh the lions need some help they definitely need some help but the commanders might be in a place to give it to them so we'll say yeah yeah also shout out uh anyone who lost their fantasy championship to someone fielding Shane Zellstra because that's that's why i like people will always say why do you guys talk about gaming you don't talk about fantasy you hate fantasy i know like when i make a bad bet it's like all right it's one one way or the other like favorite or underdog you just do it and you're good playing in fantasy for 20 years 25 years whatever i played in fantasy and having something like that happen we'll just it takes the love of the of the game fantasy football i'm talking about out of you where it's like someone picked up Shane Zellstra started him he scored three touchdowns and you win a season that you cared about your team for the entire like four months of the season you just lose a little love for that you like you just can't the roses can't smell as sweet the next season when you just like how the fuck did i lose this fantasy championship when i had the best team and someone started Shane fucking Zellstra he scored three touchdowns yeah fantasy football is like the biggest craps you've ever it always was like that i will say though um i i just won my semi-final match up today i was going up against Sean Evans in the semi-finals and we made a bet beforehand that the loser was gonna have to eat a part of my cheesesteak cheesesteak billy style with the last ad hot sauce so i was down i had most hurt and that was it left to go today i was up by two points i coward would have sat there running back just to make sure you didn't get any fumbles i started he fumbled in the first quarter and i was like oh fuck and i was down but then i ended up i ended up getting enough points so Sean has to eat a part of my cheesesteak billy style now we're just talking about fantasy football but i have to just give a shout out to uh friend of the program p blackburn um i don't know if you saw but he had he plays in a fantasy league i like these are the things that will make me get back in a fantasy if i can get in a league like this uh the league has a rule that uh if your kicker misses an extra point it's minus 50 points so he had on monday he had matt gay going into the final going into the end of the the week and he was like should i take the cowards way out i'm up like 10 points and take the cowards way out and bench matt gay or should i let it ride everyone's like you got to let it ride matt gay miss an extra point he lost 50 points he lost the match up oh i love that yeah those rules will get me back in like if i can find a league like that where's just stupid fucking rules because that's what it is it's just a crapshoot so just make it even more of a crapshoot and then i'll have fun with it yeah the bad beats are really why you why you play fantasy football they should just do that in regular football like an extra point should be worth negative one if you miss it so like you get six points for a touchdown and then if you make the extra point you have seven if you miss it you have five i i i threw out a mike greenberg's dumb rule this weekend that uh you should get a re-kick someone posted someone tweeted me like kick or should get one re-kick a game i was like what if you got a re-kick but it cost your team two time outs so then you had at the end of the games like coaches not trusting their kicker and then not calling time outs being like because if you have one time out you can't re-kick if you have two you can re-kick just really like just fucked up shit like that let's make it the stupidest rules ever and then but then the other coach they can block the re-kick if they have three time outs yeah yeah i like it so i that was a long way of saying i know that people love fantasy football i used to love fantasy football i had ladani and thomas and back in like whatever it was 2006 that was when my love was at the peak but you have too many weird shane zylstra times and it just it beats you down to the point where it's like i i know that i'm gonna get fucked one way or the other i can't i can't care as much it just happens over fantasy football is the ultimate like um it's the ultimate time to be doing the real life version of the Elanza morning gift where he's like shaking his head no and then well okay because you're always rooting against like another bet that you have going on you're always rooting against your own team to a certain degree you're rooting against your own playoff interest all the time it's just my my allegiances get spread too thin sometimes during football season yeah multiple teams it's just too hard to track it all but yeah um all right a great assist can be a game changer when you have state farm with an award winning mobile app plus local agents all over the country state farm is ready with the assist when and how you need it state farm with the assist coverage options are selected by the customer availability and eligibility very by state uh lions are in trouble panthers might win the NFC south uh looks like by the way the bucks are gonna lose this game they suck the cardinals just took a uh what is it's gonna be a 10-point lead billy doesn't get his $20,000 in cash holy shit do the bucks suck like how long can we go without it's just every week it's like maybe this is the week that chris collinsworth was talking about he's like oh Tom Brady might be able you know like put something together here they just suck well Tom Brady missed an easy throw in the first half in collinsworth he just wouldn't say anything because he's not allowed to talk shit about Tom Brady so he just kept his mouth shut and he was like there's some things that I could say about that throw right now but I'm not gonna say him it's like collinsworth we know which side your bread's buttered on we know what you're trying to do here but even he knows like Colin chris collinsworth loves everybody he absolutely like everyone if you make one good play now here's a guy that's gonna get a gold jacket one day like he will love you if you just make a if you show up once on Sunday night football also credit to James Conner because that dude has played on some bad teams and he always shows up especially like like every primetime game James Conner has three touchdowns yeah and we can just talk about the box real quick right now this game I um so I just everyone needs to stop saying well they're gonna get in the playoffs and then watch out because they're gonna have a home playoff game they suck they're a bad team I don't like it's just stop talking about them as if they're some dark horse that could could put together they can't put together two wins in the regular season against shitty teams how are they gonna put together three wins two of them on the road in fucking January they also also tide bulls is calling plays like he's scared at the so bad so either either he's the world's shittiest head coach or he knows something about Tom Brady's abilities right now that he does not trust either way it's not good I tend to lean towards the fact that Todd bulls might in fact be like Nathaniel Hackett level head coach just with a better roster he's so bad and Bruce Arians like has a laugh last laugh because Tom Brady you know we know that it was all denied up and down but it felt like he was like I don't want to play for Bruce Arians anymore berserians like fine play for Todd bulls I'm gonna set my friend up with another chance and he's probably gonna fuck it up because he sucks as a head coach good coordinator terrible head coach all right bangles 22 Patriots 18 this was just the reverse of the bucks bangles game where the bangles come out played a perfect half in the first half outside of I think one borough interception but Joe Barrow had 28 first half completions they had 303 yards to the Patriots 70 and then the second half started in like all hell broke loose intercept pick six the Jacobi Myers touchdown which was just karmic retribution for the Raiders game Mac Jones just throwing up balls and then getting caught like the Patriots almost win this game and they fumbled with the Ronny Stevenson fumbling in the in the red zone with like a minute and a half left it was a crazy game because the bangles felt like they dominated and then it just all helped her close yes so this is the game where I think I will say Belichick is lost his touch specifically for the fact that old Belichick would have buried remandary Stevenson under the field under the 50-yard line with a shovel after the lateral incident last week and then he pulled back in and then he fumbled again Belichick uses absolutely hate running backs that fumbled that dude um was it gray that had three touchdowns maybe four touchdowns on Monday football Jonas Gray Jonas Gray and then he basically cut him after that he slept in he slept in missed a meeting and Belichick's like oh well you got too big for your britches nobody's burying the team you'll never be heard from again remandary Stevenson after that after starting the the outbreak the Wuhan type outbreak of ladder lightest that we had last week Belichick in a former life would have just like cut him or at least sat him down put him like way behind on the depth chart at least for a week after that so he thinks about it but yeah when it came when it came to this game the bucks are excuse me the bangles absolutely kicked a shit out of him for the entire first half and up until the fourth quarter really because New England didn't get across midfield until the last play of the third quarter that's how bad that's how bad things have gotten with that offense in New England and then we got Matt Jones diving at people's legs that was such a funny clip because people are starting to have the conversation like is Matt Jones a dirty player yeah he's been a dirty player that's kind of who he is he is football grace and Alan and he always has been he's twisting guys feet he's diving at their legs that was such a it was a hilarious dirty play because he was so far out of it and I think it's a little bit relatable to where if you just do something shitty and you feel bad because your team's losing you just see a you see a guy that you can take out and you just let all your frustrations out on him it was funny because when that clip for people who missed it it was Max Jones through an interception and the Bengals players running down the sidelines and Matt Jones is chasing after him and then he just stops dead in his tracks and and like cut blocks Eli Apple and so half of the replies were like Matt Jones is so fucking dirty and then the other half were like well Eli Apple deserves it it was just perfect they're like well it's Eli Apple so who cares but yeah Matt Jones like and Julian Edelman called him out for his pissy faces like it's the Matt Jones experience has to be just miserable at this point if you're a Patriots fan like there's no there's no way around it like he he whether you want to say it's Patricia I think it's a lot of Patricia like I think he I've talked about that I think that he's got Matt Jones has been set up to fail this year but like his body language those plays like twisting guys ankles hitting people in the balls and then just screaming at everyone and like and like looking like he's about to cry half the time it can't be fun to root for that guy it just can't be fun it's not I was actually just thinking like Mac Jones the dirty play debate you have to like I reserve the term dirty player for guys like Vontes perfect somebody that could actually like do some damage to you when it's Mac Jones it's like if you can accuse Mac Jones being a dirty player but that's like accusing Beto O'Rourke of rigging elections maybe you have to be able to win one before somebody can accuse you of cheating well it's also like he's he's like he's the white collar dirty dirty player where it's like he will cry in his mugshot when he gets when he gets convicted for a dirty play and you're right like he can't I don't think he has the physical strength to hurt anyone so you're just like all right well this guy's kind of annoying and it is it's great now and he's he's a Duke basketball player in football yeah I mean maybe last week if he had tried to go low on Chandler Jones it would turn out differently he's not making that mistake again I just think that it's it's always tough when you have if you have a quarterback that like I'd have I wish Hank was on right now because he would probably say the same thing like you want to give your guy all the chances you can have but it's it has to just be miserable rooting for him like getting up and being like all right I'm gonna ride for this guy and he's gonna look like he's crying the whole time he's gonna scream at everyone he's gonna type of people he's not gonna be good there's just no redeeming like there's nothing that you are holding on to being like Mac Jones does this that's what we love it's just it's just like a it's like it's like a long 18-hour day having to root for Mac Jones if you're a patrons fan right now yeah yes it's tough it's like when you say yeah he's the kind of guy that you know if he was on your team you'd love him that's not the case no you're only you only love Mac Jones if you have just won a game and even then you're like okay uh I guess I appreciate his fire a little bit yes but yeah it's gotta be yeah go ahead no I was just gonna agree with you it's it's gotta be tough if you're Hank because you know in addition to the lottery ball and all that stuff like you have to just completely swallow your pride you go from the guy that's got like the most uplifting positive body language of all time in Tom Brady to Mac Jones who's just like he looks like he's going to call his dad to like have him sue you every time you intercept him that hit yeah he just hands him a business card for his law firm Salino and Barnes yeah that hit was too hard here's here's my lawyer um by the way uh the Bengals I I'm a little nervous about the Bengals because he feels like the injuries are starting to rack up yeah Lyle Collins out for the year so and our interview went viral with with Whitworth because everyone was like we got to get Whitworth back to the Bengals for one last round which would be sick yeah I actually so I tweeted at him when they announced that Lyle Collins was out was just like Whitworth what do you say he liked to tweet so yeah I not only was it like hey at Andrew Whitworth I also did eyeball emojis and then he he liked that so I think we can say as first report by part of my take Andrew Whitworth has expressed interest in the possibility of coming back to play for the Bengals and he said yeah he was like we gave the hypothetical ten million dollars and he would do it so I don't it just the Bengals yeah they got to get healthy because I do think they're one of the few teams that come in the Super Bowl um all right next up uh let's go Chiefs 24 Seahawks 10 not a whole lot from this game other than Andy Reid got a cheeseburger in a shoebox after the game and that was fucking awesome that was one of those videos where I started watching it and people missed it that the team got him a present for her I don't even know I don't think this game actually clinched anything they just got him a Christmas present and it was a shoebox and Nike shoebox and I was like oh fuck did they get him shoes they get him red shoes they get him like dad shoes please be something other than shoes and it opens up as a cheeseburger it's like thank god it was all worth it it was all worth it because his smile was fucking great when that happened I was actually hoping that it was going to be like a donut or just some dessert as they were going through it and it surpassed my expectations when he opened up it was like a full cheeseburger that was in there great job great job to the Chiefs and Andy Reid also pulled an all-time dad move and pretended to drop it halfway through and was like oh there's something alive in there he's a little live yeah yeah I made everyone flex but yeah this game was never in doubt I do we by the way I'm gonna get old takes exposed about my bucks rant like on this show that's gonna suck you counted out touchdown Tom I got it about that this sucks so bad whatever I'm just so frustrated because I once did believe in this team and I have I've quit them thankfully but I still want to be like fuck them they're not good but they're gonna win this game now so I was wrong people who listened to 15 minutes ago that's very funny I'm an idiot shows you how big of a shit for brains I have now they're gonna want to play off games and do everything yeah they're gonna go the out of each game the the Chiefs remember we talked about it a few weeks ago like the Chiefs defense will always be suspect but they basically just have Chris Jones can wreck some shit and that's what he did in this game and I also I feel like there's certain coaches that you're like they always got a shot Steve Spagnola will always have a shot just because of those Giants teams where it's like if they get pressed with four and they have a couple guys like Carlos Dunlap and and Karoloff this and and Frank Clark like if they get pressed with four nothing else matters so it's just I love coaches where they've done something and they did it 15 20 years ago and you're just still in the back of your head you're like well they could do that again well being being the defensive coordinator for the Chiefs must be actually even easier than being the offensive coordinator I think because if you're the offensive coordinator you just get to like fuck around and you can get like a little bit too creative sometimes and get over your skis if you're the defensive coordinator for the Chiefs you just know that your offense is going to build a lead so you just have to be able to like figure out ways to develop a past defense like get to the quarterback by any means necessary Karoloff this is that how you say his name the Greek free Karoloff this yeah he's he's Greek yeah shut up Purdue yeah I like that guy is you Ohio State no he's Purdue because I think he's like Ryan Carrigan point 2.0 yes but yeah he's awesome Frank Clark can get after the quarterback I like I like when their defense they are one of the one of the few units that they just go out there every week and they're like okay we just have to pin our ears back it's just gonna be 48 minutes of pinning our ears back and then we're gonna heat the quarterback up and that's how we're gonna win and also Chris Jones doesn't get enough credit for basically being the defensive Patrick Mahomes and he's not as good as Patrick Mahomes but in a similar way where the Chiefs on the offense will sometimes be like are you patching home just do something cool and and we'll score points like get us out of this jam Chris Jones is like hey our defense isn't that great just do something fucking sick and just beat everyone he had I saw the stat he had eight QB pressure hits off of 36 snaps so just I don't know one out of every four like a little more than that was just all right we're just gonna put he's gonna he's gonna get the Geno Smith and impact the play that's like that's what he does yeah shit yeah he's pretty cool I think that they're gonna miss having a player like the honey badger in the secondary though he was such a good fit on that chief defense somebody that just has attracted to the ball and will create turnovers because they can give up yards all they want and they probably will give up yards but they're gonna get big plays on third down and that's what that's when they need to do it as long as they can do that then the Chiefs are pretty much pretty much unstoppable if their defense can get those stops as Patrick Mahomes is playing like at his best that he's ever played they are now the this is the fifth straight year that the Chiefs have 12 regular season wins that's fucking stupid that is that is so dumb five straight years and as we reported last week every team that the 49ers beat end up losing the next week yep yep or everything that they play ends up losing the next week that's been all season I think so the Seahawks lost them last Thursday night they get their ass kicked by the Chiefs and Pro Bowl or Geno Smith looks like looks like the the carriage is turning to a pumpkin for Geno it's it's not great five out of six they've lost feels like it's not gonna happen to them they still do have the tiebreaker against Alliance they need like the commanders to fall parts and more but this is this is the opposite of like the Chargers or the Ravens in the AFC where it's like oh we don't know what's to play them I think anyone would love to play the Seahawks in the first round of the playoffs yeah and I'm not trying to take anything away from Geno like what a year this has been for Geno Smith that's all you have to say and again the Seahawks get two wins a weekend they got to watch they get to watch their team play and then they get to watch the Broncos play and that's just the even if you lose you end up winning if you're Seahawks fans yeah yeah okay next up Saints Browns Saints 17 Browns 10 this was just a battle of which coach was a bigger shithead and piece of shit and dumb dumb face Kevin Stefansky versus Dennis Allen who would flinch first uh turns out Kevin Stefansky would flinch first and he's the bigger piece of shit dumb dumb face and when I say all this I'm talking about the fact that it was what was it like zero degrees minus 10 degrees I think it felt like it felt like it was negative 20 yeah just snow covered field looked terrible run game all day just run the ball and you win the game they have Nick Chubbin Kareem Hunt I know Nick Chub's a little banged up Kevin Stefansky called 31 passes for just Sean Watson and on the other side this first half I was sitting there watching and I was like I hate I never hated a coach that I have no relation to no like I don't care about the Saints like Dennis Allen pisses me off so much Dennis Allen had started the first half he had nine pass attempts from from Andy Dalton he had wildcat with Alvin Kamara and then finally with three minutes and 24 seconds left in the second quarter he's like oh I have Taysom Hill maybe I should use him maybe this is the perfect game for Taysom Hill started using them and they instantly were able to score points so I don't think Dennis Allen you get credit for being slightly less dumb than Kevin Stefansky because both of these coaches are fucking morons for spending like half of the game thinking they could throw in this weather when they have Taysom Hill on one side in Alvin Kamara and fucking Nick Chubbin Kareem Hunt on the other I don't think that there's ever been a game that's been more perfectly designed to have Taysom Hill featured in it ever game was ever every football maybe like in 1902 before Teddy Roosevelt like made people start wearing helmets that might be the only time period that has been more of a matchup for Taysom this game if you looked at the field it looked like an ice skating rink there just looking at the field I was cold I was cold watching the fans the fans were told please come down out of the if you're up in the 400 level we need you to evacuate that come down into the main bowl where you can be protected against the wind because you're probably going to die if you stay up there that's fucking BYU weather okay that's Taysom Hill run into a linebacker's face chip his teeth and then and then like put him in and let him throw 170 yard pass down field per half almost as like a gadget play so yeah I agree that this Allen is a complete shithead I don't know what he's doing as I don't I don't know what his process is like for calling an offense or what's going on there I still stand by my take that I think I think we can say now that James is probably hurt or very hurt and maybe gonna sue them he's gonna sue them that's what I'm saying like when he got put back in that game I think they fucked up as an organization and the only possible reason why they could not be playing James Winston is for a liability issue that's it yes because I'm watching Andy Dalton especially in cold weather he just any Dalton's too old to be outside in that kind of weather I felt bad it's too nice and too nice yeah nice guy shouldn't be out the he should have nice guys shouldn't have to deal with those type of elements yeah he's got he's got red hair red hair people should not be out in that sort of weather like the rain they can be out in the rain or the maybe a little bit of sleep but it was like it felt like it was negative 20 degrees red hair people cannot deal with anything less than 30 and more than 80 they just can't so like let's be safe this really is turning into just like watching the biggest emotion live because the bucks just recovered a fumble and now we're driving to take the lead so I am really the dumbest person to ever tweet and have a thought mid-game in a football game but back to this game I it's Kevin Safansky gonna maybe be on the hot seat so this I'm like exposing myself as being an out of town or in Cleveland because people that live in Cleveland fucking can't stay on the guy and they hated Baker they hated they hate everyone really I think Cleveland fans will end up hating you if you play for a coach of Browns at any point no matter what happens but as an outsider I look at Kevin Safansky and I see like he was able to win a playoff game and so in my mind I'm like that dude should have a statue built of him outside the stadium because the Browns have been so bad for so long but I'm starting to come around on the fact that you have you have Nick Chub and Cream Hunt and in games like this but it's also been outside of this weekend it's been like a recurring thing over the last two and a half years he just he hates running the football he and so 31 passes were just Sean Watson it wasn't like this was you know they were playing ketchup all game they had to lead for the first half they were it was never outside of a one possession game 31 passes and they had a moment PFT in the fourth quarter where they had a third and two and a fourth and two because they went for it and they passed on both of those like I don't I just don't get it like as dumb as Dennis Allen is at least he deserves credit for like I said the first quarter and a half he threw it nine times with any Dalton the rest of the game he threw it six times and he realized oh Taysom Hill can win this game for us he gets credit for realizing how stupid he is in the moment in correcting his ways Kevin Stefanski I think he might be on the hot seat like he how do you lose this game when you have a run game like them and I know Nick Chub is a little banked up but how do you lose this game when you have a run game like them I don't know I mean who else you're gonna hire Condoleezza Rice is an owner of the Broncos right now she's I got a name for you Bill Bellaturk oh I was gonna say Urban Meyer no Bill Bellaturk Bellaturk it's the whole thing but what if he hates the Browns but that's the old Browns that's the Ravens that's the Ravens that's the Ravens what okay what if what if Bellaturk and saving got back together what if I'm just saying like what what if he went in one a Super Bowl like what's the only thing that Bellaturk could do that could one up Tom Brady's legacy now that Tom Brady went to the box and won a Super Bowl win a Super Bowl with the Cleveland Browns I honestly think like going above 500 with Matt Patricia as your offensive coordinator is even harder than winning the Super Bowl as the courts the Browns but yeah Bellaturk spent this entire season being like watch me tread water with a hundred pound weights on my ankles yeah I actually was thinking that if you look back to 2019 you could make the argument that every single thing that Bellaturk's done losing Tom Brady making his son defense coordinator hiring Matt Patricia to call plays it's not crazy to think that he's just been punishing himself for not drafting Hunter Renfro since yeah he's just like he's a shit like like himself in there every day I fucking hate you but but there has been a lot of smoke and we're not making this up Hank would call it fan fiction I think Bellaturk will stay with the Patriots I don't think I think he'll just you know end his career with the Patriots he'll end his career with all time most wins all that but there has been smoke you have to admit there's been smoke and wouldn't that be the perfect way for him to finish is to take the Browns to the Super Bowl like the impossible it's the Browns with the Lions that's the impossible no one's done it when we get off on tangents like this we have to admit to ourselves we all have a little Peter King in us like you imagine that story coming full circle I just I think putting I mean imagine teaming Urban Meyer up with the Sean Watson in Cleveland boys are back in town the most hateable team of all time yeah let's watch let's do it let's the bad boys a 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this bears had in the first half big time big time had Tracer's early dad looks like Johnny since so I would know what Johnny since looks like bonk I was thinking Moby you remember that guy Moby that used to be everywhere like every song featured Moby in the 1990s that's what I'm saying that's my friend just by the way my friend my friend just texted me which is very apt analogy said Tracer's early dad looks like he owns a suburban MMA gym that absolutely is the case or yeah or like a crossfit gym yeah but he actually called smashing pumpkins because he looks so much like Billy Corbin you just do a workout where you throw you throw giant gourds around it's a combo gym it's you can do MMA on one side and and crossfit on the other yeah he is it's jacked up it was funny before the game started I think Chris Collins worth was talking about getting to meet Trace McSorley and he's like you know Trace McSorley like he thinks that he has he's the best quarterback in the world when he steps on the football field even if he's the only person in the world that thinks that way he was like throwing on the bus a little bit but I mean I guess he's I guess he's playing manageable football right now he's not the worst quarterback we've seen play this weekend that's a fact definitely get to that you're you're a little bears yeah the bears I know that I said that I'd like the bears to mix in a win that doesn't seem like it's gonna happen because they're not a good football team they do at least fight like every game it feels like for at least a half they're in it so they don't they haven't quit so I guess I gotta give him credit for that but yeah the the the bills were just waiting for like when are we going to demolish them and then it happened and it was also a reminder because we were not in the office this weekend how much it sucks to have to watch your team on a stream so I was watching red zone for the first time and forever as like my soul live which I drives me nuts because like every play I think is gonna be a touchdown interception and it's not it's like oh it's got hands and just dipped in for a five-yard out but watching the bears on delay and then seeing things happen and then watching like I was looking at my computer seeing it happen on my TV and watching like this sucks it's a miserable experience we haven't done it in forever we've always been able to watch every game live for seven years now yeah it's tough the only nice part about finding a legal stream is going to the chat section over on the side and you're seeing what kind of hilarious links to foreign scan websites like what what Lithuanian Bitcoin website is being advertised over here in the chat that somebody's just spamming it with yes that's that's the only redeem quality to that sort of thing and then you get red zone on TV spoiling it for you and Scott Hansen so I watch a little bit of red zone this weekend I remember how much I do miss the sound of Scott Hansen's voice he's very reassuring voice it's the voice of when he speaks it sounds important because you think that something important is going to happen afterwards so like it's very authoritative and I think we're going to get Scott Hansen as the NFL pivots over to YouTube I think Scott Hansen is going with it yeah Cecilia I don't I don't think Cecilia I was going I think Cecilia I was going to be he's gonna be looking for a job it's tough tough time to be a journalist specifically a red zone journalist a red zone journalist yeah no they've like 50% of NFL red zone jobs have been lost in the last 12 months it's crazy what we think of our red zone journalist when we talk about recession it's bad but yeah shout out shout out shout the Bears for I bet on the Bears Moneyline I just figured like what the hell why not maybe it's a look at game first half look great you look good yourself I watch a lot of the game and then the bill is just remembered they're the bills fun fact about the Buffalo Bills because people you know they talk about Josh down they talk about the receivers and their passing game did you know that the Buffalo Bills have the highest yards per carry in the NFL I did not that mean Devin Singletary was Devin Singletary froze Jekyllon Brisker in open space like it looks so bad so so bad yeah they ran the ball so well down the down the Bears throw it's a bad team like let's just being brutally honest and I think Luke getsy the Bears offensive coordinator is fully committed to the tank because they ran the offense they ran in like September where it was run the ball run the ball third and long hope Justin feels can do something awesome and credit to Matt Milano because the reason why Justin feels a lot of the reason why Justin feels didn't have one of those like crazy runs is Matt Milano's just really fucking good and you can actually point to where the Bills season dipped a little when he was out like he is that important to that defense here's how he's not just feels you just buy him you just put together spy on prom salt skip get Matt Milano on him the other thing there's two other things from this game one is Josh Allen has the most offensive touchdowns in the first in his first five years his career all time he passed a marino so there's a hundred and seventy four Dan Reno had 171 this is a stat that's Josh Allen's incredible but it's also one of those stats that holy shit Dan Marino was out of this world good because he did that in the 80s when that was not what football looked like and then the other one I wasn't gonna talk about it because I thought it was just like one of those things that just happened and you know they had a fun time but we tweeted about it so I might as well kind of a cool moment after the game the Bills got stuck in Chicago and Josh called me FaceTime me while I'm sitting on my couch and he's like can you can you open your river north bar the barstool river north bar I was like yeah give me like 10 minutes shout out Rick who runs it was able to find staff to get there on a Christmas Eve and the Bills rented out barstool river north so I'm hoping that Josh Allen when the Bills win the Super Bowl and they do the football life will be like it was Christmas Eve I made a call to big cat and that was the catalyst for the whole team to win this thing so I mean if that's not true which I would say there's a zero percent chance that's true I think Josh Allen will do me a solid and just say it and I'll just be able to walk around saying that for the rest of my life that like you know that Bill Super Bowl all it was was one call from Josh Allen one called the Rick and we had it all set up I heard that's where they really came together as a team they've never been as close as they have like you'll learn a lot about people being stranded the same city this way you know what this was this was like Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs version of trains planes and automobiles to try to get home for Christmas to their families they can't make it guess what let's make the best of that situation and let's find let's discover friendship on the roads via the Barstool River north bar it was a beautiful story and I did see some people like why did they open for them like the bills just beat the bears suck there's no rivalry between the bills and the bears if it was the Vikings or the Lions or the or the Packers yeah fuck yeah don't open a bar for them the bills like Josh Allen's the most likable superstar in the NFL I fucking love him he's our best friend so when he calls and says can you open the bar fuck yeah I'm gonna try to figure out a way to open the bar and again shout out the staff of Barstool River north because Rick like I called Rick and he's like give me 10 minutes and then he called me back he's like yeah we'll open at 730 for them it's like okay to call your staff on Chris receive and get enough people to come in just a great story all around and again when they win the Super Bowl we can just say it was you know it was part of my take and it was that friendship that did it also he still owes us 150 million right that's true or no 50 million he owes us $15 million tell you what we'll knock some of this off his tab has that sound yeah that's a million he owes us 14 million now I don't want to dispute that you're what you're saying about like there's no rivalry there and like it's just guys helping dudes out but I would like to ask Max max we're talking about good sports towns if the bills just beat the fuck out of the Eagles would you approve of opening up the barstool Philly tavern to let the bills hang out all night and drink all your beer in your face after they just beat you and pay and pay and probably tip very well for some people who went in worked on Christmas Eve probably made their Christmas Eve to and also throw it up answer the question would you let your city be cocked by Josh Allen on Christmas Eve throw in the fact that also Josh Allen's my best friend it's it's all relative the bears aren't looking to win right now right right I don't if the bears were good that was a heartbreaking loss I would have I probably would have been like Josh I can't do this like yes exactly like during the Sixers tanking tanking seasons I'd give a shit like you could have done whatever you want so if you're in that sort of mode and you lose then yeah like it would be exciting to have your guys come in yeah if if the bears were fighting for a playoff spot and the bills beat them and they lost out on the playoffs and Josh Allen face I probably would have been like I'm not picking up because he's gonna talk shit you know what I mean like I would I would just ignore the FaceTime but he is my best friend and he is the most likable guy in the NFL so fuck yeah I'm gonna help him out and also it's good publicity let's be honest it's good publicity for Marshall River I'm glad it happened I just wanted to hear the Philadelphia perspective on that because I figured it'd be a little bit different so you so you agree with it given the context given the context yes other people in Philly might might be mad at me for saying that but I was cool when you sent that text yesterday and you were like well major FOMO yeah like imagine if we had already moved to Chicago and it was it wasn't Christmas Eve and we could just go party with the bills for a night that would have been fucking awesome yeah I actually thought about flying to Chicago last night just party with those oh god it looks like I'm stuck here too I mean I would I was the minute I set it up I just sat there and I was sitting on my couch and I was like shit I really wish I was with those guys tonight that would be fucking fun did you send white Sox Dave down I didn't I didn't because I figured that would be well it's Chris receive but it would also be a little awkward if anyone showed up that wasn't a member of the Buffalo Bills because they literally open the bar for them so all right next up Ravens Falcons this game sucked the Ravens are just a really good defensive team that's waiting for Lamar Jackson to come back yeah John Harbaugh might be top three top four coach in the NFL we should recognize that again just like just repeat it to ourselves because he's like he's a little bit of a boring guy he gets most of his face time on TV when he's like talking to Lamar Lamar's like let me go for it he's like okay he gets he's a guy that I feel like his coordinators get a lot more recognition than he does which is great because he's had some great coordinators over the years but Harbaugh's just a very very good head coach like top three top four in the entire league he's a great head coach and I do think that the Ravens I'm upgrading them in my power rankings to team nobody wants to play in the playoffs because they are they'll just they'll ugly it up any game their defense is really good and if Lamar is back healthy which it seems like he's gonna be week 17 so next week they could they could beat anyone and and it is kind of similar to the Titans where the Ravens not being a one seed not being a team that everyone's looking out for makes them way more dangerous yeah and we're going to get it got flexed next week so we got Pittsburgh at Baltimore they never played this game at Baltimore they always play this game in Pittsburgh so the night game in Baltimore it's gonna be probably wearing their black uniforms we're gonna get Ravens fans rocking the camo purple shorts in the cold weather that's my fucking favorite when you get the real ball more guys out there just just they're stealing valor put their camo fatigues are in no combat theater in the world it's the purple black silver combination of the camo shorts that I'm very excited about and then that game doesn't really matter actually for for the Ravens in terms I'm looking at the the playoffs right now it does for the AFC North because the Bengals play the Bills on Monday night football and then the Ravens play the Bengals week 18 so if the Bengals lose to the Bills week 18 becomes for AFC the AFC North yeah so yeah it's all about week 18 that since the Ravens game yeah so it's gonna be awesome I can't wait to watch it these two teams don't like each other very much but the Falcons on the other side of the ball they are I think they lead the NFL in terms of teams that just won't fucking die the Falcons are dead they should have been dead a thousand times it's like the Falcons Steelers Packers there are a few teams that just won't die but the Falcons have just lost so many games it seems they should be out of the playoffs by like a month it seems like they should have been mathematically eliminated like Thanksgiving but they're still hanging around for some reason yep it is it's crazy it's crazy and I actually push back on the stolen valor I think the way the Ravens plays football and having to root for like the way the style they play I actually think the US military stealing valor from from Baltimore fans by adopting by cosplaying as Ravens fans yeah it's the way it's become the reverse the best is that they wear shorts is the camo shorts it's like no in no branch the military are you rocking shorts but I love it man I love it it's been there I think every other team has tried to do the camouflage and their home team colors and they just didn't sell it all so they didn't bring them back it was like a one spring they offered okay we've got this new design where you're gonna be able to buy like bangles gear in in black orange and white camouflage but just nobody bought it but the Ravens fans they fucking love this stuff it became the unofficial dress code of Baltimore to wear this everywhere so it just became like a localized thing just out of like targeted marketing to the people of Baltimore all right next up Texans 19 Titans 14 I think Mike Ray will put it perfectly after the game he's like we're just not equipped to overcome turnovers so it's a matter of fact as you can get about the state of your football team if we turn the ball over we're fucked and the Texans the Texans are like our sneaky good I know that's stupid okay they played the Cowboys to the last drive they went to overtime against the Chiefs and they beat the Titans maybe they're not sneaky good but they are absolutely frisky they're the frisky is to win team you could get yeah they might know they might be the best to win team of all time they've they've played some good teams down to the end but I think that they're just really really good lovey Smith has managed to do basically he's threaded that needle whereas like they can't obviously tank everything they have to be competitive enough to be able to lose games believably so it doesn't look like they're doing it on purpose so love you love you as master that art is you have to tighten other Texans actually like they're I would say that the bears have played worse football yeah Texans have at least yeah the Texans they're gonna probably draft ahead of the Bears but it's not it's not for one of trying like they've almost fucked around in one of few of these games yes no but they definitely have in this in this situation I think is more case of the Titans just being the most injured team in the NFL I think they've got they've got 20 players from week one that are no longer playing no longer either they're injured or they're on IR or they're just they've been cut for whatever reason so all their linebackers are gone the entire offensive line is gone quarterback fullback basically they've got Derek Henry and that's about it and and Derek Henry even he had that long touchdown run and then he was kind of bottled up for the rest of the game and had a fumble which he he hasn't been a fumble guy but he's fumbled four times in the last three weeks so yeah the Titans the good news for the Titans because you play in the AFC South none of this matters and week 18 is winner takes all yeah so it doesn't matter it doesn't it literally doesn't matter if they lose to the Cowboys it still doesn't matter if the Jaguars win next week in the Titans lose it still doesn't matter if the Titans win week 18 there's a weird tiebreaker oh no it's a it's division record so they'll have a better division record than the Jaguars in the same record if the Titans win week 18 they'd be one and one against the Jaguars and have a better division record I think it'd be four and two overall and the Jaguars be three and three and they would win the AFC South yes so it's all week 18 I'm interested to know knowing that what do you think the line is against the Cowboys Cowboys at the Titans next week in a game that literally does not matter at all if you're the Titans are probably gonna rest all their starters because there's no point in them playing at all next week so right downhill he's he's had ankle surgery he won't be available even if even if I think yeah in week 18 he's not gonna be available for that either so they're just gonna ride with Malik Willis for the last two weeks of the season and Max can you look can you look ahead right now and see what that spreads gonna be I love now whose line is it anyway I'm gonna guess I'm boys minus eight and a half yeah mine is minus I'll go minus nine on the road max look it up for us they're looking still looking oh no well equals is not good stinks he almost had a hundred yards this week though so close if I was my parable I would look at that statute and maybe I'm just being an idiot and this why I'm not a coach but there's got to be like some like mental check mark that you make as a quarterback like boom I got a hundred yards today pretty good yeah a hundred yards must feel so much better than ending the day with 99 also shout out Davis Mills I love when a immobile big white quarterback says fuck it I'm awesome I'm Michael Vick that touched that we end up being a touchdown that runny made where he just got blown up and fumbled into the end zone was so funny because you can see the moment where he's like fuck this I got this and then you can see the moment was like oh fuck I do not have this it happened within like a second of each other because you're a big dude like that you've probably been used to being the most athletic person in your high school when most athletic people at your college you can run past people can run over people that remind me of when Sage Rosenfels did that when he was on the Texans and he just got helicoptered and lost the ball it was like fourth down and they end up losing the game because it was sick all right I'm gonna find this faster than that yeah I had it nine nine and a half wow if you win that that's gonna be an awesome game that's gonna be a perfect glimpse into what an actual tank looks like in the NFL it's gonna test out Michaels to the limit to the absolute limit he's already mailed in the whole season he's gonna be so mad about that game oh my god I may have been looking at a different oh no no Max PFT didn't win that one I may have messed that up how did you mess up I'm I thought we were talking about Titans yeah this cow was okay I got nine and a half nine and a half you got it you got it okay next up nine or 37 commanders 20 PFT oh and Carson went back yeah I think it gets us I was gonna say why the focus Carson was back and somebody explained this to me I feel like I'm pretty good at watching football Taylor it's is a much better quarterback than Carson Wentz the team plays harder with Taylor Heineke he cares more Carson Wentz looks scared when he's out there Carson Wentz his shins are so long did you notice that about him yeah hello where's a long socks to I can't stand I thought I got rid Carson Wentz I lied I spent six months lying to myself about how excited I was for Carson Wentz just trying to delude myself into being able to watch football and Sundays on television you can't you cannot send Carson Wentz back out there because not like we are out of the playoff on in fact your own destiny right now going to Carson Wentz to me feels like that's a move that you make if your seasons fought and you're like okay let's try this guy out here we control our own destiny we just need to beat the Browns and then we need to win a game in week 18 which who knows what's gonna happen at that point because obviously like there's a very good chance that Dallas might have already wrapped up their seed by that point so we need to beat the Browns in the Cowboys in the next two weeks why are we getting rid of Taylor Heineke and going back to Carson Wentz this is fucking torture okay so I have a theory it's not really a theory it's more just an explanation and I don't agree with it because I'm a Taylor Heineke guy through and through I do think there's an element of Taylor Heineke that you're riding the hot hand and you're saying let's see how long this can go in the last two weeks he's had some pretty bad turnovers that Ron Rivera probably is saying what's the downside of Carson Wentz he turns the ball over well we're having that anyway what's the upside he got two MVP votes so why not like Taylor Heineke without the turnovers you keep playing him but once the turnovers start popping up that's gonna happen with Carson Wentz as well but the upside probably is higher even though I'm Taylor Heineke guy yeah okay so I know the real answer to this okay this is mostly me just getting off my chest like what the fuck why are we playing Carson Wentz why are we playing Heinekeke it's obvious anyway that's watch this team play the season Taylor Heineke works for whatever reason it just works it's just dumb but it works with Taylor Heineke that's like that's him in a bottle it's dumb it makes no sense but it works and we like it the real answer I'm afraid Taylor Heineke gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars every time he plays a football game Carson went after when Carson Wentz is guaranteed millions of dollars this year I think it was like 23 million the guy that's writing the checks now it granted he's not involved in the team operations anymore it's his wife and she's taken it over from him and Dan Snyder's nowhere near the football team this year but if you were he would probably be pretty pissed off that the guy that he's paying millions of dollars is not playing even though it's healthy and there's another guy that he has to pay hundreds of thousands dollars to every time he wins which he has been winning recently and so being the stingy guy that he is doesn't want to pay all that money that's now that's what I would say big cat if maybe I had been paying attention to anything that's happened to this franchise over the last 25 years which I really haven't that much so I guess I'm just throwing shit against the wall and see if it sticks right now but it pisses me off because I love this team I think that they're capable of doing some fun but it smells like Dan Snyder to me I could smell it sucks because Taylor Heinekeke Carson Wentz having to root for Carson Wentz is just a curse that's just it's not fun he's a bummer and he makes me sad yeah now having to root for Carson Wentz to somehow salvage your playoff hopes is an extra bummer so I'm I'm sad about it I kind of understand it with the with the turnovers this game the Niners are just clicking I mean Nick Bosa is is a defensive player the year 17 and a half sacks someone tweeted me that he was signing stuff in the offseason Nick Bosa 20 sacks like calling his shot which is so fucking cool but this Niners team is just rolling Brock Purdy's the first quarterback to start 3-0 with multiple touchdowns in each game since Kurt Warner the only other one to do that when Kurt Warner won the Super Bowl the Niners are just so much better than then a team like the commanders right now that's just kind of like it's not really Taylor Heineke's fault no they had to play the Niners who are humming and playing in St. evens you know the Niners have not given up more than 60 yards rushing to a single player this year it's crazy it's so good they're so good that's same yeah I think the 49ers are playing like the best of any team in that division or in that excuse me in that conference I'm gonna take I'm gonna put a future on the Niners actually like as we speak as we're talking about it the price isn't probably great I'm gonna see what the price is right now now Max would say and I'd agree with him in a little bit Brock Purdy going to the link that's their ace of the hole I think that defense travels big cat I do too no I listen I'm scared to death of the Niners in my Eagles future but that would be the only that would be the only thing you could put in your back pocket being like can Brock Purdy handle the link probably throw batteries in his head I think that he can't I feel like this is like Kyle Shanahan he's he said such bad playoff losses you know that that should burns him up too like he wants to get back I feel like this is you can make the argument is this Kyle Shanahan's best coaching season it might be it might be a talented team Kittle Kittle is unlocked fully he got Kittle was so awesome on Sunday awesome oh by the way I should I should throw this out there the NFL did reach out and apologize to the commanders for fucking up the end of that Giants game so that should not count as a loss did they put a PS on it being like and and Dan Snyder if you don't sell the team there's more of where this came from yeah basically that's what they were getting at which is one of the situations where I can't be even that mad about it because I do want to answer some team if that means that we miss on the playoffs this year then so be it but I also think and tell me from way off base on this big cap but I think that I think that Greg Kittle should apologize to me oh yeah I think so too during the week when he was doing his press conferences and stuff getting ready for the commander's game he was wearing part of my take merchandise so and then and then he goes out he dominates me I I I'm treating this like it's a dress code violation on our end where you should not be allowed to wear team brands of our opponents while wearing PMT merchandise at the same time so I think I think George is the only one that we can allow that for because he's so right or die and he's so right or die I have one more for you he actually hit me up he's like Kyle Shanahan keeps asking me where I got this sweatshirt can you send him one so in a press conference soon Kyle Shanahan will most likely be wearing a legends part of my take sweatshirt so I think we just have to ride with those like that's pretty cool but not but not during the week where they're playing against me that's no I know that's when it's a dress code violation as far as I'm concerned okay that's fair but I just it will be cool if Kyle Shanahan wears in a press conference we have to think of the brand we have to find okay that's fine but just so you know I'm sending I'm sending Kittle a letter right now to his locker room and he's going to be he's gonna be warned okay strong warning strong warning strong strong warning all right next up Cowboys 40 Eagles 34 max turn your turn your camera on we got to talk this game sucked for the Eagles they should have won it it was fine like a million injuries oh we're gonna do that it was fine again I I you say what you have to say but well I mean it was an awesome game Gardner Minshey played his balls off a couple bad interceptions not I mean whatever it was he played very very good the game was meaningless obviously it's what I alluded to on Friday that there's a feeling like you know the Eagles know in the back of their heads that this game doesn't mean anything if they take care of business but they still obviously wanted to win when when you're going up against Cowboys I just the defense just fell by and it's injuries like Lane Johnson Maddox Jordan Davis all these injuries scare me Max but you'll say it's fine and you'll say it in that tone that will make me feel like nothing is fine no this I'm actually very I came out of that game feeling better than I did going into it what's why you just did you hear the injuries I just said injuries and injuries aside I think everyone's gonna be fine or my turn injuries off Jordan Davis will be back hurts is obviously coming back we still have to wait to see what's going on with Lane Johnson I was very convinced that he just got hit in the balls and that's why he was doing it turns out that's not the case but even with the injuries at home it took it was 15 yards away from winning that game against the Cowboys like you how do the Cowboys feel confident about the playoffs after that game I mean CD Lam is pretty good yeah but they probably feel pretty good about him but like it was a six-point game and we were we weren't even close to where we're gonna be in the playoffs Max Max here's here's the deal the injuries are not good for you guys right now like Jalen Hers is I do think I do think that he's actually injured I so I did I did I did a little bit more research on it and saw exactly like what part of his shoulders fucked up is this part right here which is good graphic you'd rather have it be the SC than the AC which is on the outside because the AC will fuck you up more like long-term throwing it but yeah research you saw the same graphic I saw the big Ben graphic where they light up one part of your body no no I actually like I read up about about the different types of shoulders brains was that on was that on the broadcast I think so it was just it was just the guy's body like here dude from operation no no no I looked into it because I was like okay the SC joint I've never heard of anybody spraying the SC part of the shoulder that's like to sternum so he's gonna be able to pass the ball more effectively once it gets better but it's gonna hurt like shit when he gets tackled when he's running the ball so he's probably not gonna want to run the ball quite as much but it is gonna be like a couple more weeks until he's a hundred percent that's just that's but we have a couple more weeks like we have weeks to get healthy like we're gonna be to we're gonna be the same to home next week like that's just that's going to happen and then you have you're gonna get to I'm saying this out loud and but like we're going to have three weeks for everyone to get healthy for the second round of the playoffs yeah okay so on the defensive side max did you did you think maybe like maybe we shouldn't play zone defense anymore against Dak Prescott after he completed like his first 24 passes against it yeah Dak look good Dak looks good the past defense looks very bad pass rush that looked really good yeah I mean there was just some there was just some very bone-headed plays in the secondary that was frustrating to watch but then again like you haven't seen that that much this year so I'm not gonna overreact the one game like all right let me ask this if you were to like split up in your own mind the reasons why you're pissed off and I get the general feeling that Eagles fans are pissed off for one of two reasons most of the time one is because they're not getting enough respect right that pisses you off even when you know that you're a good team and then the second reason that you might get pissed off is if you know that like secretly you're not as confident as you want to be and so then you just lash out because that lack of confidence where we at in terms of splitting it up is like 50-50 if Lane Johnson is back by the second round of the playoffs I'm as confident as I could be the second round okay so you're penciling in yeah okay yeah I'm I'm I'm less attached obviously because it's just monetary and not a fan of the Eagles but I would say I'm a lot more worried than Max's at this point yeah that's I kind of get the sense that Max is getting so mad because like he knows that he should be a bit worried yeah yeah I mean I'm not worried about hurts like I think hurts is gonna be fine I like I that could just be me refusing to accept yeah but like I don't make it's a progress yeah I have it allowed my brain to even for a second thing that hurts is going right now which okay no I'm still I'm still standing by that I'm more I'm more worried about Lane Johnson because if he started then yeah that's that's a big issue that last play the last play the guards you just had to throw it up I still think you've ever came in for him yeah got absolutely blown up and there was a crosser that was gonna be wide open if you had like three more seconds of time also Nick Siriani I know this game doesn't matter one of the dumbest things I feel like you can do is when you have a one-time out left and there's like 30 seconds and you have a big play that is in the field so doesn't go out of bounds and then you run up and spike it wasting it down when you that's why you have the one time out this bike was really like this bike was really use the time out there regroup don't waste it down that you then ended up needing like it makes no especially when you're going for the touchdown like I understand right like if you're if you need a field goal then you the timeout is much more important to switch personnel but like you're thrown to the end zone anyway like you're the ball is going out of bounds or it's gonna be a touchdown like why do you need that one time out it was very weird clock management the vontay Smith was incredible unbelievable unbelievable and shout out to you I helped and had no idea he was on the Cowboys oh yeah no just show so here's here's a crazy TY Hilton set that's actually a ricochet Deshawn Jackson stat okay TY Hilton has 17 receptions of 50 plus yards over last 10 seasons 17 receptions of 50 plus over last 10 seasons tied with Tyree kill and AJ Green for the second most in that span Deshawn Jackson has 30 such catches in that span that's crazy big-time deep heels he's probably got a vertical leap of like 55 inches it's crazy just catches everything it's so good there were times where Mintu was just throwing balls out and just hoping that Smith was coming down with him and he was and this game was like it just it gave you everything you want it like when when we knew halfway through the season that this game was like circled for Christmas Eve it delivered all the hype with Carter Mintu and it's very funny that the Cowboys and Eagles could very well likely play again in the playoffs and they're one-on-one both playing the backup quarterback so we have no idea like no idea who's the better team at this moment we blew out there we blew out there back up right back that we were a shitty spike for Max Max you just lost on I know I know I know yesterday but like we should have whatever whatever okay last game from Saturday the Frankel Harris game just a terrible game but it was worth it in the end because the Steelers won Kenny Pickett throws a laser George Pickens Derek Carr I he's just I know that everyone feels bad for him but it's also his fault you want yeah he tries really really hard and he cares a lot and everyone's like oh man he doesn't deserve this he kind of does sometimes because he sucks and he's been sucking in the second half of games yeah he actually there's a pretty good reason why he is sucked in the second half of games because they've got this guy in their team named I don't know if you've you've heard from Pickett but his name's Davante Adams and he plays wide receiver on the Raiders and so in the second half of games when they're when the Raiders are busy blowing their seven-point-and-half-time leads or more it's because Derek Carr has had more passes after halftime caught by the opposing team than by Davante Adams so in those in those games he's got five interceptions in the second half and three completions to Davante Adams in the second half. Davante Adams is pretty fucking good and they're supposed to be really good friends it sounds like Derek Carr's being kind of like a fake friend like kind of a bitch yeah yeah and I have a quote for you that I would think would sum up the Raiders and doesn't doesn't feel great for them right now this is from Josh Jacobs who if you don't remember didn't get the fifth year option he's been one of the best running backs in the league he said I'm tired of dealing with this every day I come here and bust my ass and I see the guys busting their ass and the result is not there for me the last four years the result has not been there and quite frankly I don't know what else to do that doesn't feel great no it doesn't but you know what I'm actually team I'm glad that the Raiders did not sign Josh Jacobs to that fifth year yeah pretty Josh Jacobs let's go somewhere he's appreciated he would be appreciated like literally anywhere else I don't know why they didn't choose to extend him maybe it's because Mark Davis is poor and he's like it's a lot of money to run back which I somewhat understand but Josh Jacobs is like a legit threat he's awesome and I just want to go to he could be like okay here's what I hope happens I hope he goes I hope he gets paid I hope he goes to a contending team and he's like a work horse back for the next year and then they just kind of like slowly take away his caring responsibilities because he's starting to get older because I feel like he's got like a two-year window from now where he's still gonna be elite and then all running back start to go downhill I want to get paid and go somewhere where I can see him playing the playoffs yes agreed big-time agree the only other thing I had from this game is just it ruled that the Steelers want it we we had it we both bet it Franco Harris game they really shouldn't have one they were like Mike Tomman was doing the most chicken shit football possible like fourth and four kicking a 52 yard field goal in zero degree weather trying kicking that field goal in the fourth quarter when it's like dude you need to touch down here but it all worked out and I just like when sports stories work out like that Franco Harris like passing away five days before his number got retired was so tragic so it was kind of cool the Steelers won that game yeah it was very very cool I just I might be nitpicking our friend Kenny I like Kenny a lot Kenny for listening to the show I don't like it when you pump fake to Najee and then you look away and then you just go and you throw the ball back to Najee after you just pump fake to him because it seems to me like that draws a lot of attention over to him and there are a lot of like one two-yard completions he just loves pump faking and then throwing the ball to the guy he was pump faking towards anyways yeah Najee's the king of like one-yard gains yeah what one-yard game catching one-yard gain or hurtling somebody those are really the only two shots yeah all right we 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they suck they suck like they just they just had to go to overtime to beat trace mix early they suck they're not going to do anything in the fucking playoff they suck except except if they play Cowboys and it's not ready against the Cowboys yes but they suck they're not a good team and I'm just watching their football games because they just play the most boring style of football and it's just always it's they're the kings of getting into the red zone and not being able to get touchdowns I feel like I've seen every box game this year and that just happens over and over and over and every game is a three-point game one way or the other yes it's proof frustrating all right Sunday's games Aaron Rodgers is gonna do this again as me Packers 26 dolphins 20 he's gonna do this again PFT I am at least smart enough in my older age to realize when it's gonna happen and just start betting on the Packers so I've just been doing that so I'm gonna go down with like he's probably gonna make the playoffs and I'll just hopefully win some money until they get to the playoffs and get absolutely shit pumped by the 49ers well you just got to root for Kirk man Kirk could make all your problems go away you realize I'm in a rock and I am ready for Kirk I'm ready for Kirk this weekend absolutely I am too I'm you will not find a bigger pro Kirk cousins podcast then part of my take because it's very very good for both of our teams well for your mentality and for my team if Kirk cousins is able to do this I think they're playing at noon that's great the new nightmare strikes again the thing I don't like about Aaron Rodgers and his body language right now is he he looks like somebody that's already played these games and already won these games and knows exactly what's gonna happen during them so like when he goes when he starts losing when Jalen Waddle takes a pass like 84 yards to the house in the first quarter Aaron Rodgers has this little smirk on the space like I've already seen this like time at time is a flat circle and I've experienced it I've been through the looking glass and I know that two is gonna throw three interceptions a second half so I know where your fear is coming from because he does have the quiet confidence like a shaman told him exactly he some people like the Jets have the coin that predicts every single game Aaron Rodgers has had an Ecuadorian shaman tell him exactly the outcome of every single game this year and what the playoffs pictures gonna look like and he already knows yep it is he has that smart it's fucking brutal to watch I think they're gonna do it and yeah I mean to a if I want to do to a non real quick it was unseasonably cold in Miami so cold that they did the alert where like iguanas might fall out of the trees because they get so cold and they freeze and they just fall how are you supposed to play quarterback when you know iguanas could be falling out of the trees that's yeah that's not fair to him his mentality you can't expect him to perform under those conditions but holy shit did he suck if we're taking the to an aunt to cap off everything that everyone has said about to a was right in this game where some of those throws were just so so bad and he looked so so bad and Mike McDaniel after said on to a psyche it's a challenge can't let things snowball I'm confident he'll be able to get through that that doesn't feel confident to be like can't let things snowball and it's a challenge I don't feel I don't feel there's not a lot of confidence and he'll get through that it feels like it's snowballing and it's bad and this game was set up for the dolphins to win like they had chances to step on the Packers in the first half and they didn't take him and the Packers credit to Matt Lefoor because like he started going forward on fourth down taking risks being like we got to win this game but holy shit did to a fucking suck oh man yeah the second half was really bad and this is why I'm in the to Leo ban not to an on I like his brother better but as as a bit of aiding comfort to you I think he'll be okay because they do get to play the Patriots next week and they get to play the Jets after that now even if they lose to the Patriots they still have an 82% chance of making to playoffs if they can just beat the Jets at home so I think they're gonna be okay it does seem like Mike McDaniel if he's making a list of things that he has to do this week number one is like say nice things to your quarterback and make sure that he knows that he's good at football yeah like that's not really what you want your coach to have to worry about but in this case I think he's gonna have to but if he can just be the Jets then he gets in the playoffs then it's the Dolphins against the Chiefs in the first round of the playoffs probably and that game's just gonna kick ass yeah that's gonna be I can't wait for that game that's gonna be so many points and I actually think that that the the Chiefs would have a hard time I feel like the Dolphins would match up well against them yeah I mean it would the two is just bad and he has like the best receivers in the world so good they're so good if you put any other quarterback with those receivers it would be lights out I it's just I want to be a two and on I put a bet on him pretty much he's been bad since I put the bet on him to win the MVP but yeah that it's it's bad and it's psyches bad and it's gonna snowball because Michael Daniels said he can't let it snowball which means it will snowball Michael Daniels also just obsessed with snowballs yeah to his bad it was bad and I don't and it was a bad experience other than the fact that like I said at the beginning here I have the foresight to start betting on the Packers when I know that they're gonna run the table so at least I had that but everything else like I was just hoping praying for a Dolphins one-point win and to it just could not deliver whatsoever that last interception was so gross he had two really bad ones now he threw a time to jail and why the first half though there's a fucking spot on pass that while ran 80 yards with afterwards but I guess the good news if your Dolphins fan is you guys very easily could have won this game to have played probably the worst game of his career maybe no I mean the Chargers game oh yeah that was worse that was so bad ones it's he's had a stress this was his worst this was to his worst home game of his career I think yes well and it doesn't really help that the Dolphins are like last week they lost the bills but it felt like a moral victory because they looked right again and they fought and played really tough and this week they just all fell apart in a very winnable game and you like you said Aaron Rodgers has a script it he's living in a simulation he knows he's gonna run the table he knows he's gonna get the playoffs he probably knows he's gonna get shit pumped by the 49ers too well here's the thing so we've got a couple opportunities for here Big Cat one if Kirk Cousins can beat the Packers next week please and their playoff odds go way way down they're probably not gonna make it that point or even if he beats the Vikings if if Aaron Rodgers beats the Vikings he has to play against Jared and the Lions and if Jared beats the Packers then they're not gonna play off no matter what so Jared can take that away from him Jared can be the hero that that you need I need it I need it I need it all right speaking of bad quarterbacks last game Rams 51 Broncos 14 holy shit what a game they robbed us of voting rusty MVP they stole that stop the steal they didn't let us vote Russell Wilson through three interceptions one of them was caught the second one he had his two first quarter interceptions the second one had an all-time clip where Patrick Star was announcing on Nickelodeon was literally a cartoon character was announcing Russell Wilson's implosion of a game he had the he got benched at the end of the game where he kept his helmet on with the straps on being like let me back in coach I want to cook he also had the moment where his entire offensive line tried to fight rep Ripian and Ripon and also we had a moment where he talked to the offensive line with a football in front of his face as if someone was trying to steal the codes he was telling them just an all-in-all like just atrocious performance but he did he did throw a touchdown pass which means he has the same amount of touchdown passes as bathrooms in his house so he has that going for I thought it was it was bad when he was doing the thing where he was hiding his mouth talking to his offensive lineman yeah but I thought he was just talking to a football I thought that Russell was just having a honest good this conversation like why have you forsaken me yeah I've done everything that you've asked me to and and you just you just turn your back on me like this I think it'd be funny if the NFL just just for fun flex the Broncos into another prime time game I'd watch it I would to at this point is it's gotten so bad that it's funny now that I like watching the Broncos implode where now we can have the conversation who's more at fault is it Russ or is it Hackett yeah well I think that it's Russ it is Russ and Hackett nice guy he's gonna be fired he tried his last ditch effort shaving a go T which I like that where he's just like I'm Nate now I have a go T I'm a different guy I threw out the fact that like if you're Nathaniel Hackett why don't you do the Ben Macadoo benching Eli for Geno or the Mark Trussman when he bench Cutler for Jimmy Clausen like just one last pride thing bench the guy that got you fired and just be like you know what I mean just next week just say Russ is healthy but he's benched I know I'm fired but I'm gonna stick it to him because I don't want to fucking deal with this and and he's the reason why I'm getting fired so I need to have some personal pride to know that I was the one who bent Russell Wilson I actually think I actually think it might be better yeah I think he just wants to let Russell Wilson go out there and hang himself in his own rope just just like Mary look what I have to deal with as a coach like I he probably wants it to get worse and worse and worse so that the whole world can look at that and be like well maybe Nathaniel Hackett's not the worst head coach to ever coaching the NFL because after all he does have Russell Wilson playing quarterback for yeah so I yeah it's a shame to because the danger which is catching a lot of strays the danger which is actually legitimately good sandwich it keeps getting memed out there and all I'm saying to those people is just like maybe try the sandwich before you insult it before you like it's actually I feel bad for the danger which because it's associated with Russell Wilson it's not fair it's not fair to the sandwich it really isn't it's not I had a thought in this game which tells you how bad Russell Wilson is is Zach Wilson better than Russell Wilson no no it's not dude Russell Wilson is that bad right now yeah no the two worst quarterbacks are definitely Wilson right now it's so bad I actually was like is that Wilson maybe a little bit better because Russell can't even do the things that he used to do where he throw the moon balls and like in and spin out of the pocket he's just beyond lost and it's it's there was like a third in 14 where he just kind of sadly ran into a sack like I'm just done with this I he really is just so lost as a human as a football player definitely as a human yes and I'm getting dangerously close to feeling bad for him I don't want to be there I don't I don't I mean the Patrick I don't I don't I don't I don't so it was so funny when Patrick was like oh let's the other team I guess he's like partially big bins walking through but Zach Wilson I think let's not let's not even say that Russell Wilson is that they're both they're both very bad they're both funny in terms of how bad they are they both love moms you know that about him I don't think that Russell you can't that's that's going a little bit too far but he's he's definitely better than Zach Wilson here's I agree but the thought popped in my head which means that it's closer than you think watching Russell Wilson play today I was like I think Zach Wilson might be on the same level as him that's how bad he is and I also wanted to give a shout out to the Broncos defense because they fought very hard for 15 weeks and then you could see the moment that they quit today it was like watching a college bowl game and they should acquit a long time ago so I'm giving them retroactive credit to making it all the way to week 16 before they full all in all out quit because they totally quit in this game and they deserve like there's never been a unit that deserves to quit more than the Broncos defense when they quit today I don't blame at all I don't blame at all in fact like this is the perfect time for them to quit in a standalone game where everybody can see just how bad they've had it for so long just do this little thought experiment here if you put Russell Wilson on the Jets and you put Zach Wilson on the Broncos I think the Jets win one to two more games that they have won so far I think the Broncos are winless I don't know if they're winless they definitely don't have that six second quarter that they had last week remember Zach Wilson was five and two as a starter to start the year it's so it's so crazy to think about like he he it's just a fact fact perfection he won more games in starting quarterback than Russell Wilson this year it's just a fact yep it's a fact um and for the Rams I think we probably have to give Sean McVey coach the year vote because the fact they have five wins is crazy and I'm happy for Baker um they were sit on the broadcast they're like Sean McVey has had such a tough year he started to question like things about himself and his own insecurities like Jesus Christ dude you just want a Super Bowl you got everyone injured like I think you can just be like yeah I'm a really good football coach I everyone got injured yeah also I think sometimes announcers just say that when they don't have anything else to talk about like yeah Sean McVey's had a bad season as an NFL coach and they just look at him and he's upset on the sideline they do Terry Bradshaw they're like I think Sean McVey wants to kill himself yeah like a football team is but it was uh it was it was nice to see Baker succeed he was the MVP it is fucking bullshit that Nickelodeon took that away from us they wouldn't let us vote for anybody that was on the Broncos that's how bad this game was because you know that they had a little conversation about it they had to they knew that we're gonna we're going to exercise our democratic right and that we're going to go to the polls if we were in line we're going to stay in line and vote and they had a conversation about part of my take and they said we can't let them give it to the losing quarterback again this year so if it's a blowout we're not even gonna have an option to vote for anybody from the other team that's how bad this game was at the start of the third quarter they're like yeah let's just not putting Broncos on their because there's no chance at hell they're gonna come back and win this game it would have been an all-time backfire if the Broncos had come back and then Baker ends up getting it as a loser but they knew exactly what they were doing it was it's such bullshit like fuck you Nickelodeon you know how many kids out there were deprived of their American right to vote for Russell Wilson for MVP discuss it's crazy it's crazy and Shadow hank he won the hungry dog Rams Packers he also we have an internal bet on the part of my take group chat we said we're gonna do a tight show because just me and PFT it was set at 130 I think we blew over that so he was he's won two in a row let's see if he wins three in a row with a lottery ball coming up right how long is the show like two hours I swear at two hours I think we we caught up and talked for the first 20 minutes before we started recording but we're we still yeah he was right it's always listen you're talking ball with the boys and start to stop PFT and I didn't get to watch games together this week there's a lot of there's a lot of shit we had to talk about we didn't get the fire off takes to each other while we're watching games so we had everything all right should we wrap up with who's back of the week yeah let's do it all right who's your who's back PFT my who's back of the week is my back and we've been talking about this a little bit offline big cat you've gone through some back injuries of your own I know Hank is dealing with some as well I got my back blown out last year I got my back blown out again on Thursday Max actually blew my back out he was actually filming it so you'll be able to watch that I can't tell you what it is exactly I was doing I will say it's gonna be a very embarrassing reason when my back got blown out and so we'll be releasing that on video but my body's just broken down I was doing a mental inventory of all the stuff that's happened to me in the past year it's been a bad year for my body big cat a really bad year I've still got like 10 kiddies stones in my body somewhere I don't know what happened to them I stopped following up with my doctor about that my UCL got injured with a golf simulator thing that we did I fractured rib cartilage trying to catch a football pass from Billy I got COVID twice in the span of like two weeks because I don't know the CDC called me asking me how that was possible and now I'm dealing with my back which I was in bed for the last two days all day Christmas Eve all night the night before that I could not move yesterday just back spasms sheer pain terror big cat finally told me get a back brace which I got so I'm able to walk around basically it's it's tough like they always say like when you turn 30 that's a rough year they're right like my 29th year was as bad as it gets so hopefully you know I get on the other side of 30 and really get my body in shape that's why we're doing peloton that's where we get back on buns anarchy it's um it's always bad too and when you know we're the same age with I mean you're 29 but we're you know one day apart which is still crazy uh that we are but when you have an injury and it's like I have the whole playbook and I'm like oh yep here's what you got to do this this this so you don't see a doctor I've seen so many doctors about my back but I see I embrace it because I think that it's a it's a fun time capsule for day one AWL it's like just like this show right now where it's just the two of us this is a fun capsule where you get to see our bodies break down you get to see me battle being a dad like you get to see you know we're gonna do in this podcast that we're in our deathbeds and uh you'll get to watch the whole thing we're basically just taping uh boyhood it's just manhood no one podcast is just manhood you get to watch all the trials and tribulations of getting older and thinking you can do stuff that young people can do having you know terrible uh heartburn and not being able to drink anymore and just all these things it's it's it's a it's a cautionary tale for all of our younger listeners that father time is undefeated unless you're Tom Brady it's like it's like boyhood or the uh the very beginning of the movie up hopefully not that one because fuck Disney for putting that at the beginning of the kids movie fuck them forever but yeah I'm doing better thanks to the stage advice that you passed on to me and also like I've dealt with the back injury before so I knew when I was out with Max and I took one wrong step I knew that it was about to be bad and I was like fuck it let's just keep going and I'll deal with the consequences tomorrow that's um that's that's 20s mentality right there and as I enter my 30s I can't be thinking like that anymore I would recommend uh the doctor I saw for my back but I think he's dead because I think I told the story but I went when I last time I threw my back I went to get a steroid shot and I was just having casual conversation with the doctor and um he was like I think he either went to Cornell or somewhere else he's like yeah I'm Cornell class of 58 I was like wait what and I did the math and he's like yeah I'm actually retiring in three months and then before he gave me the steroid shot in my back he dropped the needle so I don't know if that guy's still alive so but we can find someone else okay I've got Billy football, he'll order me some research chemicals um all right my who's back of the week is Dirk I just want to shout out to Dirk that's statue that the mavericks put up of Dirk maybe one of the coolest statues you can have like yeah every team has statues but the the fallback jumper fucking perfect absolutely nailed it and it was just a nice reminder that Dirk was one of the funnest guys to watch my basketball and uh I do feel bad because he he's had a couple interviews where he's like yeah I probably played a couple years too long so I can't walk anymore yeah I fucked up too yeah but he got a statue so that's cool yeah maybe one day I'll have a podcasting statue something something about if I sacrifice all these years at this but yeah the Dirk um fade away thing it's awesome because it really it fulfills the two things that the statue should be one it should be giant and number two it should actually have like a head and a face and a body and arms when you're building a statue somebody that's generally what you want to go for and and and realistically he's talking not about Sean Taylor but the third is when you see a statue you should just envision that play and that's just an iconic perfect yeah it's perfect Dirk um by the way the other funny memory of back problems another one where like AWLs who've been with us for a very long time remember when I threw out my back last time we had to do a podcast for my couch and I was pissing in Gatorade bottles I was I couldn't get all I literally could not move off my couch for like three days so Hank and you came over we just did the put the mics like I just laid down and did the whole thing laying down yeah I peed I peed in a bottle last night I got I was trying to think I woke up in the middle night had to go to the bathroom and I thought to myself how am I supposed to do this it's basically impossible for me to move and get off this bed so so listen when you got to go you got to go I actually I wish I was in New York right now because I think I have like three break in case of emergency pain pills from the last time I throw my back which probably have no they probably actually don't work because they lose I think they lose their strength but I saved them because I was like if I throw out my back again I need these to survive and they've just been sitting there so sorry no you couldn't use them it's right I've been I've been taking naproxen which is just basically it might as well be a placebo it's like essentially taking four aspirin at once yeah you know you know you're you're getting old when you have to save a few of when you get prescribed pain pills and you have to save a few just in case you hurt yourself again yeah you're like I need this just in case I hurt myself and I need to survive the like 24 hours of back spasms to come afterwards yeah you know me I'm not a drug guy and I did watch dope sick so now I'm just terrified anytime I can describe some any pain pills yeah it's yeah don't I mean I when I did it was like they gave me 10 and I took six so yeah that shit is very fucked up all right Max who's back um James Harden rumors oh yeah what's up with the strip clubs and Philly um I don't know I sixes are rolling right now but it's turn your turn your camera on okay can I get your max and shirt off um yeah I mean he's playing really well playing on an MVP level you guys trashed me for saying that earlier but I mean he's been insane he went for he went for like 30 and 20 the other night 20 20 or 30 and 10 tonight um or today but yeah the rumors suck it looks like he's doing the whole song and dance that he does every team he goes to um but hopefully we can swim but throughout the year did you know like when he went to the sixers though there wasn't an element where you were like this time is gonna be different he's gonna love us I still I still want to think that I'm not giving up I'm not giving up that the guy has commitment problems that's fine he's actually it's probably because of the thunder trading away yeah like from that moment on he was like I can't trust anyone not even us yeah not even well yeah I mean yeah Philly fans like they would I guess you guys are loyal to a fault but if he that rumor probably makes like half a Philly already hate him right no no everything that I've seen is just like well when you well when you over when you over not like not angry and everyone that's like that's like the bob that's like the bob being like if you you know it'll be real shame if a brick came through your window like James Harden will win you over when you over like we won't fucking try to ruin your life too and like he was asked about it in like the post game a bunch and everything he was saying was like not saying anything not saying anything and then he put in I don't know where you got that report but then he would go back to like deny like so obviously it's a true report but then every single like headline in Philly was like Harden says quote I don't know where you found that report like the only thing they take from it is like I don't know where you found that not even saying it's not true like he was being so wishy-washy but it was like I don't know where you found that report and it's like yep that's that he's saying also on the on the Sixers have you been paying attention max George and Yang is playing pretty good this season yeah yank yank he's like yeah yank yank the minivan the minivan we gotta get it back on we gotta get it back on um yeah all right so Wednesday best of and then Friday we will have a new show live from the Arizona Bowl make sure you watch 430 Eastern Friday December 30th Ohio versus Wyoming and uh let's kick it to ourselves when we pre-taped the lottery ball to see if Hank can win one love you guys okay we're back in the studio uh Hank I just realized because we're recording this all on December 23rd second if you get one of these you're just gonna have to sit on it for a week no hopefully we're Wow imagine if you got imagine if you got the number and then he died I got good news for you Hank you're not gonna get it so you don't have to worry about it yeah that's true you're not gonna get it okay so go ahead numbers have you ever gotten this no 17 so 17 I'm gonna go 10 I'll go 28 dickheads I'll go 18 Sebastian has 39 20 20 come on you're not gonna get it shut up you're never gonna get it never gonna be 17 never gonna get it never gonna get it never gonna get it 31 31 didn't get it didn't get it surprise surprise one more yeah well we're gonna tape it in a second I see more for the year see everyone for Wednesday uh best up love you guys