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So, hi everybody. Hey. I like starting an episode with so. We're mid-conversation.
So, anyway, welcome to SmartLess. Listener, you'll have to excuse Will Arnett today. The things are a little sour. It's early today.
He's surely, surely. We recorded this the day after my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs lost. Oh, they lost last night? Game seven, yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry. It wasn't a great performance. Biz made that very clear. Yeah, he sure did.
And God bless him for being honest. God bless Biz, Paul Bizinet, my friends, and my co-mourner as a Leafs fan. Paul Bizinet, world's number two Leafs fan, obviously, behind me. But I am considering free agency.
This is a hockey listener. We're talking in a hockey. I'm considering free agency. No, no, you didn't say before we started recording, you weren't considering it.
You had declared that you lost the game. I want to test the open market. I see how it goes now in the world. We'd love to have you over at the Kings.
Okay, well, I'd love to hear from Luke Robotai when the time is appropriate. I'd like to see what kind of package you can put before me. How do you think Brendan Shanahan's going to feel about all this run in your mouth here? Well, look, I just do this to...
Brendan runs a team there. Yes, he's a former SmartList guest early on and friend of ours. He runs a team there in Toronto. He knows it's a business.
What, your heart is a business? My fandom. You're not going to stick with them when they're hurting? I'm going to do what's right.
I mean, look, it's nothing wrong. People test the open market. He's tested the open market before. He's been a free agent.
Oh, do you think he's got his resume out there amongst all the clubs saying, hey, I'll be GM over on your... What do I know? I think they need you now more than ever. What do I know?
What do you want to do? You want to run a team? Well, no, he's just looking for a team that's going to win all the time. He's going to win the Stanley Cup every year.
I've never won in my lifetime. What, the Maple Leafs? I've never won in my lifetime. Wow.
1967. That's like the Cubs to me. And when they won, I cried. 1967 was the last time that they won?
Yeah, that's right. Well, you were born in 58. I know, so. It's good stuff.
It's good stuff. Anyway, what else is going on? You guys are handsome today. What else is going on?
Yeah. I didn't even come to Sunday Funday, although I wasn't invited, as it turned out. Oh. No, listen.
It's a subject number two to get pissed off about. I don't give a fuck. What do you mean you weren't invited? You don't know that.
Yeah, I do. I do. What did you... Tell my inbox.
You didn't miss much. It was just burgers and chat. You know, it's a typical Sunday fair. I'm also a free agent with that.
I'm free agent with friends now, too. Oh, really? You're looking for a new date for Sunday nights? Are you drinking a dish washing soap?
Why don't you try going to mass on Sunday nights? Do they have it at night on Sunday or is that Saturday night? Mass. Mass.
Isn't that what they call it? Yeah. The Lord's house is always open, pal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will, I'm really sorry. I sent you a text earlier yesterday that's speaking of Jesus, that I had spoken to hockey Jesus and that Toronto was going to be okay. I know. You weren't alone.
First of all, I'm not superstitious in that way. I was texting with Ham, with John Ham during the game. And one of the refs, I'm not laughing at his misfortune, went down because he took a high stick. Yeah, he took a stick right in the eye.
And he was bleeding all over the ice. And Ham said, is this good luck or bad luck for your team? And I said, you know, literally in real time, as it was happening, I said, I don't know. I don't, I can't, I'm actually not superstitious in that way anymore because then you're just a maniac.
So I don't knock wood anymore. I don't do any of that stuff. Like, who knows? Look what happened.
But this is what I worry about when I, because I knock wood all the time. I got a whole series of things. And Will, you said that you've stopped knocking on wood. Look what happened to your team last night.
Years ago. Yeah. Okay. Well, this is the problem.
This is why you have to keep up with superstition so that you can get the wins when you need them. No, but thinking that, I'm thinking about me watching the game a certain way or doing things a certain way and thinking that's going to affect the outcome. He's like, that's how, that's how Charles Manson thought. Do you know what I mean?
That's insane. Let's bring a circular into it. Will, you need to stop watching sports. And stop fucking with your hair.
Okay? Here's the other thing I want to say, is that my Liverpool won the premiere like this year. So that's the good news. There we go.
Start singing the song right now. We conquered all of Europe. We never thought of the time. Is that the chant that they do at the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the song?
You never walk alone. Fearless. Yeah. Sean, you don't know this stuff.
Never walk alone, but that's like an old, old, old song. Is it really? Listen, it's a brilliant song. It's a brilliant team.
And yeah, Liverpool. I'm also, you know, because I'm, anyway. How are other things? No, tell me.
Let's talk about other things in your life. Yeah, go, tell me. Wait, let's go. Either get a hat or fucking turn your camera off.
I can't see you continuing to fuck with your hair. These headphones are driving me crazy because I'm wearing over-the-ear headphones today. Well, that's what we all do. Okay.
Okay. Well, where's your earbuds? So what? Then mute my camera.
What? How are you doing? I'm pulling you with my camera. Where are your earbuds?
I do want to need a new friend. Where are your earbuds? Hey, calm down. By the way, if there's the wrong side of the bed, you sure woke up on it.
Speaking of the bed, where are you, Will? You've got this nice curtain behind you and a little leather selfie? I'm in my earbud. No, no, no.
I'm just in my spot here. All right. All right. Anything else to chat about before we get to our guest?
No, let's not picking on me. Let's not picking on me. Sean, what about you? What are your problems today?
I can tell you. Go ahead. I know what's going on. I got to stop you here.
That's just red sugar. Juice is sugar. Yeah, but your body processes that kind of sugar differently because it's not processed sugar. Oh, no shit.
Got it. Are those diplomas behind you? And then what happened when the dessert came to the table? I had one bite and I gave the rest to me on your daughter.
I had one bite. I just, yeah, that was good. That was really hard. And then I got home.
I've just been shoving fruit in my mouth like crazy. Like watermelon. I was just joking here, but you know. Yeah, you're just shoving fruit in my mouth.
Did fruit mine? Does he mind being called that? Oh, my God. And Jay, you know, lamented over me not having dad jokes.
So I'm always prepared now. How would you have any dad jokes? What do you mean? You have no dad.
Yeah. Remember if you sped off? Well, that's a good one. No, but I have a little dad joke.
What was the one you told me last night that we had to work on a little bit? That wasn't very good. That wasn't very good. That was, well, I have one for you really quick.
Ready? Okay, sure. Knock, knock. Who's that?
I Eat Mop. I Eat Mop who? What happened there? How'd you do that to me?
Okay, guys, our next guest was in one of my favorite films of the year. He seems to have it all. He's talented. He's successful.
He works with only the top people in the best projects. He's got artistic credibility and box office sock. Okay, that's what you want in a box office sock. Okay, he's handsome.
He's tall. He's got good hair. Let's get him out here. Let's see if he's single.
Let's see how he does it all. Gang, it's Nicholas Holt. Come on out, Nicholas. What a reveal.
Nicholas Holt. Nicholas Holt. It took everything in my power when you were talking about fruit not to reveal myself right then. I know how I feel.
Well, let's get right to it then. So are you single? No, no, I'm married. Yeah.
Oh, you are? Good for you. I don't know if my hair, I've got blonde hair now. You said good hair.
Well, blonde can be good. Thanks. It was giving me quite a lot of anxiety sitting there. I mean, I was enjoying listening to you guys, but also I was like, this is quite stressful, the reveal thing.
I mean, obviously, Jason, you know, that's me. But then I was like, well, Sean, we're like, why? Wait, you guys know each other? A tiny bit.
It must be stressful for the guests, right? This whole sort of like, you're thinking there, well, when I reveal, are they going to be excited? Are they going to be disappointed? Are they going to, do they know?
Right? Is that, is that? Because if I were you guys, I'll probably be like, quickly Googling, like, let's hold quick. Well, that whole reason, it's the whole reason to do the surprise guest thing, so that the other two people don't have to do any research, right?
So Will and Sean get to just sit here and be the dummies that they are. No, of course I know. I can ask you a thousand questions about Nosferatu, which you were amazing. I love that movie.
Not a question. That was a statement. Go with the first question. No, but I have a question.
A thousand questions. Go. Okay, ready? The makeup.
What was it like? 999. Go ahead. Wait, why is it not?
I'm saying you have a thousand. Just ask a question. I'm pulling everybody's feet to the fire. Nicholas, I've had a rope.
I'm sorry. You'll get through. Wait, why is the hair blonde? What's coming up for you?
I can't believe you work in only the greatest projects. I mean, you're really amazed. The Order. When do you stop?
That's the film. That was one of my favorite films of the year. Incredible. The Order is where we met because you were working with Jude on your show and you came very nicely to the Q&A for us.
Thank you for the director, right? That was really funny. Justin Curzel. Yep.
Incredibly well-directed film. And then he directed the final two episodes of Black Rabbit. And the guy is just incredible. Did you have fun with Justin?
Yeah, I love that guy. Yeah. He's so good at what he does. Anyway, why is the hair blonde?
What's coming up? What's that for? This is a movie I'm about to start called How to Rub a Bank. Oh, with David Leach, who was just on the show.
Oh, yeah. That's great. Oh, yeah. That's great.
He was like, how would you feel about going blonde and trying that for this? And I was like, yeah, okay. So I went into my wife's aunt's salon yesterday and bleach my hat. And here I am.
Oh, look at that. You went to your wife's aunt's salon? So this is my big reveal to you three guys. Let's give a plug because we plug hairdressers on the show a lot.
So let's give a plug for us. Salon Midori. Salon Midori. Where is it?
Where is it, Nicholas? Hang on. I can give you the full address. Get ready, listener.
This gives you time to get your pen ready, listener. It's in Brea, California. Okay. Oh, yeah.
That's for sure. Ask for Le Cicero. Le Cicero. Done.
Just say the word smart list and receive up to it. I don't know. Wait, Nicholas. By the way, Nick or Nicholas?
Nick. Okay. So, Nick, where are you right now? I'm in Long Beach.
We live down in Long Beach. And is this where you live? Yeah. Oh, wow.
That's nice. How long have you been here in the States? Coming up on like seven years. Oh, wow.
But, you know, kind of running around throughout all that time as well. But, yeah. We've been down in Long Beach for like two. Now, how did you find Long Beach?
Listener, if you're not aware of Los Angeles, Long Beach is an incredible part of the city. It's the port of Los Angeles. It's the largest port in, I think, the country. And it is not a place that you often hear people living in.
In the business. In the business. In the business. Because it's just south of the city.
And so I'd like to know how you found yourself there. Well, my wife's family are all from down this way. And so with me being on the road a lot, it made sense to be closer to her, you know, support system around. And I love it down this country.
There was something that always made me feel a little bit edgy. Yeah. And it's also like it's such an industry town. And it's nice to live a place where there's other stuff going on at that.
Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. That's a big part of it.
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We've got two boys. How old? Seven and two. Just chaos.
We were in A&E last night with my older one getting staples in his head. Oh, no. He's fine. Boys will take you to the emergency room.
Will, you can tell me that. I have three boys. I've been many times. I have two girls.
Only once. Only once. I had my eldest, who's 16 now, once when he was about 11. He broke his arm.
He had it in a cast. He got it off. The day he got it off, he re-broke it. What?
No way. Why don't I remember that? That's Archie? Yeah.
Well, how would you remember? You don't even know what you wrote. Anyway, there's Archie. How do you do it each time?
Each time, just foolish. Just running, falling, tripping. He's had this sort of proclivity to run one direction, but be looking the other direction. He's super bright.
You see him running, going this way. Oh, really? Anyway, so I've been there. So you've got your hands full.
Two and seven, that's a good spread, right? Yeah, that's a good little spread. But yeah, my poor wife at the moment, he was in AD. I told my ACL last week.
Oh, you did it last week? Yeah, yeah. How'd you do that? Playing basketball.
You see, we're just too old to do it now. Nick, you're considerably younger than us, but you're still too old. This was really sad. This was what hurt more than the injury.
I was back in and I was like, Google MDing. I was like, oh no, what's happening? And when I found out it was a full tear of this, I looked it up, and the AI review of the injury was like, most frequent in middle-aged people who play jumping sports. Oh, really?
There's no need for the middle-aged. Have you already gone in and done the repair on it? No, no, no, no. We have a moment and we'll do that once.
Once you finish the film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can hobble around on it? I can get around right now, yeah, yeah.
If I do surgery, I think I couldn't for a while. But I hear that that's just sort of outpatient stuff nowadays. They just go in there with a little hose camera and sweep it up and get out. No, I think for this, because it's a complete headache, I think they cut out a piece of my patella with a bone and screw that in.
Oh, man. And then they drill into the side of your knee. I don't know. It doesn't sound great.
No, it sounds pretty terrible, to be honest. So, but now you're going to go, this is going to wait until after the David Leach thing. There's stunts in that. He does stunt stuff.
And it's called How to Rub a Bank. There's going to be activity in that. How are you going to do that? Yeah, I'm going to figure that out.
That's why I'm rehabbing them. We'll see how strong I can get beforehand. Now, you robbed a hell out of a bank in The Order. God, everybody, you've got to see The Order.
Yeah, I'm on a good bank-robbing run. Yeah. How does this one differ from that as far as the bank robbery stuff? Is it more involved?
It's modern, but I'd say it's more of a Robin Hood-esque story in terms of my character, why he's gotten into this and how he's kind of revolutionizing a movement around it for good causes, essentially. Right. Yeah, that's cool. Now, what about, Sean, I don't think you know this yet or haven't really processed it yet, but I bet you Scottie has, considering his screensaver.
Oh, yeah. Next coming up in Superman. I know. That's Lex Luthor.
That's so great. That is released in July, correct? Is that right? Yes, July 11th, yeah.
All right, so what was that? Can you talk about what version of Lex Luthor this is? Because he's had different occupations in the past, correct? Yes.
I mean, there's so many different variations. through the comics and the films and in terms of what he is. James Gunn likes to describe him almost as a... That's the director, yes?
Almost as a sorcerer in this, the level of science he's working on. But, you know, he's a tech billionaire defense. And we start this Superman story in an already developed metropolis. You're thrown into a world and universe that's already fully imagined and these characters have been around for a minute and you kind of catch up with.
It's the appropriate thing nowadays, right, to make the villain a tech billionaire. But that kind of lines up. You don't go like, what? You go, yeah, yeah, that's not believable.
It certainly seems very apt, yeah. Did you have a villain look in that? What did you... Isn't he traditionally been bald-headed, right?
Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I shaved my head off. Oh, you did?
Shaved my head off, shaved my hair off. Yeah. Just the whole head. So you shaved it completely clean.
And then what was the grow-back process on that? Because I hear some people worry about that that their hair's never going to come back. It came back. Maybe not.
Maybe not. It was full and wonderful. I don't know. Wait, did you have to shave it?
I had to shave my head for a movie called Three Stooges. Very similar. How long was the picture? They're so crazy.
Sorry, it's an inside thingy that's not funny. But I had to shave it. I had to shave it twice a day because it would start, right? The stuff would start, Sean?
Yeah, you put it a little gross, yeah. Yeah, I mean, did you have to shave it twice a day? No, it was once a day, but then they could spray paint over the top of it. Oh, I see, I see.
It was better than a bald cap and doing all that, right? Yeah, yeah, I haven't really done the bald cap thing too much, but I feel like it's like wearing a swimming cap throughout the day and gets a whole lot of stuff. And where did you film it? Because, what, pardon?
Can we film a planet, Sean? Yeah. You want to go to where of their locations? No, because I don't know if it was hot or not because it was...
Oh, great question. Because of the shaved head? Yeah. Well, because my thing is when I shaved my head every single day, it was in Atlanta, it was so hot that when I went into my hotel to sleep, I cranked up the AC and I had to wear a ski cap on my head because the AC was so cold on my bald head.
This guy doesn't know whether he's coming or going! You didn't want to just turn down the AC thing, Sean? No, no, no. No, no, no.
Anyway, you want to know if you had a similar experience to your fucking lunacy that you were going through? I can't relate. It wasn't self-injured. We shot a little bit of a film in Svalbard.
Where's that? It's kind of near the Arctic Circle. In the Arctic Circle. Oh, wow.
And so that was very cold and my head was, you know, naked and it would get chilly. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no. That's not what you're saying.
He was wearing a fucking hat and it was cold. He was in the Arctic Circle. He was in the Arctic Circle. Not the Omni.
Not in the hottest city. Well, no, no. I refused the hat. There was a hat in part of the costume.
I said, no, it's a hat. Same kind of the Hawks players as they were coming back. Great win, fellas. Anyone cold?
Sorry, Nick. Sorry, Nick. We're just laughing today. Let's go.
I was going to say the same message all the way. Will, would you like to start about a boy, Will? Is that what your question is coming from? I just don't know how it all started.
Nick, how did you become you? You're so good at what you do. How did that all work at the beginning of your journey? What was the day that you woke up and went, today I want to be an actor?
Well, I was lucky. My mom and dad weren't involved in the business, but my older brother and sister, my older brother really loved acting and my older sister did a lot of singing and dancing and was very talented with that as well. Now they hate you. So that was their hobby and passion and it kind of, you know, being the third sibling, I kind of just ended up being like, all right, you end up in dance classes or in like, yeah, yeah, yeah, shows and whatever.
You kind of just get dressed. So it was kind of like the family hobby in some ways that then, through them being skilled, managed to get lucky and get an agent and then kind of, yeah, keep doing it. Are they still doing it? Not at the moment, no.
My little sister still works in film. She works as an AD, but my brother's a forensic chemist and my older sister teaches dancing. Wow. Your youngest is an AD?
Yeah. That's awesome. That's the hardest job on set. First AD.
That and first AC, I think. Yeah, the base running can be right before because you have to tell people to get on the trailers a lot. Yeah, exactly. Sean, do you want to explain the AD department to the AC or is that too long?
It's assistant director, right? You want to start with clarifying what the acronym is? No, but I meant like, you said first AC. Well, no, no, no, AC, assistant camera.
Oh, no, no. The assistant, first assistant director in their job and then the people who were then the second and the second second those people are the people who in effect run the skeleton of the film as it were. They keep the train running on time. They do all the things.
Their jobs are so immense. Yeah, they don't stop. Couldn't be more important. All right.
Great. So, about a boy. Where's your response? No, we just want to leave a little break for the commercial.
Now, was about a boy the first project that you did or was it the first thing that really kind of like launched you into public viewing? Yeah, that was kind of a breakthrough, I guess. I've been doing a few things before in England, but yeah, that was the one that was like different. What was your first professional job?
First professional job, I think I had to play when I was like three or four and then I did a film called Intimate Relations. That was fine. Explain that one. You know, I remember the audition for that.
It was very easy. I thought, they were like, I'll sit on this table and pretend to eat cake. I can do that. I can do that.
All right, Sean. That's how Sean does that because I'm not even auditioning. Now, what did that, so you're 11 and this thing happens and I imagine it was a fun experience and then it comes out and it's kind of a big hit and what was the adjustment from being just a kid to like, did your friends start to say, what's going on with you? Yeah, because that boy was so huge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I was just getting a bit of a therapy session hit now. Yeah, just lay down if you need to. Yeah, I suppose that was a bit weird because it was like, I don't know, fairly recognizable for a little bit through it.
But luckily, it's also like one of those things where also like, you know, it's like kids don't care. They care and they don't care and everything like passes so quickly that it's like one of those things where you just get on with life. You're starting to get a bunch of attention at school and some of the boys might not like that, right? You're jealous?
You know what? Most people were pretty nice. Most people were pretty nice. It was kind of...
I'm projecting. But it makes you self-conscious of yourself, I suppose, more than anything else. Of course. Right, right, right.
At that age, yeah, feeling like, self-aware in a horrible way. Were you like, this was like a fun hobby, a good reason to miss class? Or were you thinking, great, I've got a nice job to start in my career. Did you decide this is what I'm going to do the rest of my life at that point?
No, because everyone talks about how child actors often fall apart and fail and how it doesn't work out for them. So you're aware of that conversation. So you're kind of like, oh, there's a good chance. In the back of my mind, I was like, oh, I like this.
I'd like to carry on doing this. But also I was kind of reserved about it a little bit. I was like, oh, there's a good chance it doesn't work out. So I'm like, oh, Jason, Jason, you're not familiar with the sensation?
Yeah. So did you, like me, when it came time to finish high school and now it's like the decision about going on and going into college and actually setting up on an industry or an occupation, what was that decision like? Did you have some momentum going at that moment? Did you make a decision like, screw it, I'm all in?
At that moment, I was lucky. I did a TV show in England called Skins. And we did the first series and then found out that the second series was going to happen and that was one of those things where it was around the time I started my A-levels between 17 and 18 in school and I realized I was kind of like half focusing on school and half focusing on work and I wasn't really fully into it. So I was like, you know what, I'm just going to commit and then give the acting and try and see how it goes if I need to come back to school.
And you thought about give it three, four years, something like that. Because that's like, it's a real roll of the dice, right? Because you'd have to go back into college and it's stressful. Yeah, and there wasn't anything that I was particularly good at either.
What do you think you would have done if you had to do something different? I really have no idea. I say the same thing, I'm not joking. I'm not good at anything.
What would you have liked to have done if you couldn't have acted? Oh, just be a race car driver. For real? A rock star or a writer or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoy watching F1, yeah. I don't know, I didn't really have a backup. But I think the one thing that I like, the eclectic mix that I can allow you to kind of be a jack of all trades.
I don't think I excel at anything particularly, but I can kind of dabble a little bit in lots of things. You get to do everything, which you certainly have done. I mean, the variants of projects that you do and filmmakers that you work with, I mean, it's a... Yeah, a lot of people chase fame and other people chase the work.
And I feel like... No, no, just say it again because I've got a blank T-shirt I was looking to film. You always seem like you chase the work and you're not interested in any other flashbacks. No, what would you have done if you hadn't done this?
What, this podcast? No, I'm with you guys. I don't know how to do anything else. Were you drawn to anything like a college to college?
I mean, I thought I was going to be a conductor and I thought I was going to compose film the source. JB, what about you? What would you do if you could? The same thing you asked me.
I wanted to be an architect. I wanted to design residential homes so I wanted to draw really well. And I can't really draw... I just like architecture.
Yeah, I would have gone into that. I would have had to have a partner that knew the math. But any answer that you play out like architecture or whatever then you go, God, I've got a school and I've got a job. Like it's so...
There's so much work involved where acting feels it's just like you're playing. The trade-off with that is that you've got no guarantee of employment. I know. I would have been a bartender at a club med.
Just asking for beads? Yeah, just fuck it. Just fuck it. Just fuck it all the time.
Lighting cigarettes? Whatever. Just ride it out. We'll be right back.
And back in the show. But seriously, Nick, how are you picking your jobs? It seems like you're looking at kind of who's in it, who's directing it, kind of what's the quality of it as opposed to what's the star-making potential of it. No, no, no.
I'm chasing fame and money. No, you're not. Like a rabid animal, but I just can't... I'll bet you get a bunch of that low-hanging fruit that pass right underneath your nose and you've been very disciplined.
I try to be. It's one of those where I feel like I just want to do good work and have like... I'm sitting in my rocking chair in 50 years time looking back and being like, oh yeah, you try to really create special things each time. Are there any roles without any names that you turned down that's always the thing.
Whenever there's a role you don't get, there's always a thing where you watch it and you're like, oh yeah, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think it's very classy that you're not mentioning what that is too. I think some actors that they mention and then the only person that feels like shit is the person who actually did the part.
It's like, oh, so I was second. Right, right, right. But there's always that. You know, whenever like...
There's always a list. Like the turnover approach. I'm sure you guys see it all the time and it's like, oh, this script's been around for this person for a while and this person for a while. Anyway, what do you think about...
I know, right? No, I'm sorry. Just imagining him. It would be good.
Now, what about doing X-Men? Again, Scott, you should just grab the ceiling. That was... He loved it.
So doing X-Men or like Mad Max or Superman, you are sneaking in some big commercial films as well. That work process on that is... You're only doing like a half a page a day and the apparatus is just huge. Do you like doing that or do you prefer doing the smaller films where you're really chugging along and you've got to do a bunch of pages a day and it's a lot of more acting than it is sort of stunts and effects and things like that?
It's different. I really enjoy the stunt process of those things. For those bigger ones, it's more like an experience. I can clearly remember some of the days on Mad Max where we'd be in the Namibian desert and they'd give a signal for everyone to start their engines and you'd hear all these V8s and V12s.
All these engines start up around you and you couldn't hear anything else apart from the thunder of that taken up across the desert. Wow, in terms of life experiences, it doesn't get any more exciting than that. The hairs on my arms would stand up each time. But then also, yeah, it's fun to go and do it.
And I'm immediately thinking about all the dust and how far base camp is from set. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, what kind of umbrella near my chair because it's probably just really hot. To Jason's question, the comfort level of doing like an indie like super small budget compared to when you're used to doing bigger films like that, you have to adjust your expectations about how the day's going to go in terms of comfort, right?