EPISODE · Aug 29, 2025 · 1H 8M
No more 4-year cycles? Bitcoin’s future with Stephan Livera
from Trezor Talks · host Trezor
If Bitcoin’s famous 4-year cycle is breaking down, what does that mean for investors, and does it weaken the case for Bitcoin’s future?In this episode of Trezor Talks, popular Bitcoin podcaster and Austro-libertarian thinker Stephan Livera joins Sean to explore Bitcoin’s role in a late-stage fiat world. They discuss:• How hyperbitcoinization could actually happen• The risks of treasury companies holding Bitcoin• Why Bitcoin is the greatest opportunity for young people• What it really means to live in late-stage fiat• Why gold is not the money of the future• How to survive bear markets without getting rekt• Why self-custody will always be #1And more! “For most people, the safe thing to do is stay humble and stack sats.” — Stephan LiveraThis podcast was filmed during BTC Prague.Timestamps:(0:00) – Introduction: What is an Austro-libertarian?(5:05) – Stephan’s mission: spreading Bitcoin awareness(10:36) – Are Bitcoin’s 4-year cycles ending?(19:40) – The risks of Bitcoin treasury companies(28:27) – Living in late-stage fiat(30:15) – You need to ride the cycles 🎢(32:00) – Purity tests in Bitcoin(36:15) – NGU technology & onboarding newcoiners(40:00) – Why people keep using exchanges(41:48) – How to stop friends losing coins(46:40) – Wen hyperbitcoinization?!(51:25) – Why you’re still early(53:10) – Sean got his bank frozen(54:55) – Will Google & Apple bow to Bitcoin? (YES!)(56:18) – Prague has become a Bitcoin hub(57:26) – Zoom out: price vs. big picture(59:30) – Sean’s favorite meme on surviving the bear market(1:01:50) – Bitcoin vs. gold & property(1:08:10) – Closing thoughts & the awkward handshakeSecure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/
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