EPISODE · Mar 25, 2026 · 1H 9M
On Disruption as a Form of Bridging — with Amanda Navarro & Michele Silver
from How Change Happens: Stories & Insights from Social Justice Changemakers · host Create Knowledge
I intended to release this episode back in January but switching podcast editors (welcome, Jessi DiBartolomeo!) and a few life detours threw a wrench in that that timeline. However, re-connecting with this conversation this month has been a joy and I am very grateful to have crossed paths with these two beautiful humans...Join me as I think out loud with Amanda Navarro (she/her) and Michele Silver (she/her) of Convergence Partnership. We open with an interconnected discussion about listening, exploring what scares us, and different approaches to bridging in social change. From there we touch on topics including:What it takes for people to share their stories and hear other people's stories;De-centering whiteness as an active, ongoing practice;Family and community relationships as key influencers of social change practice — and honoring everyday activists and movement leaders; andA both/and approach to disruption and bridging rooted in love and respect.You'll hear two stories of what Amanda and Michele learned from their early experiences of social change work that ended up perpetuating harm. And we'll unpack what Convergence Partnership is learning about what it takes to bridge philanthropy and frontline activism.If you appreciate this podcast, please consider sharing it with a friend, colleague, or network, and/or leaving a review. I'm also always happy when people reach out to share feedback with me directly.If this episode resonates with you...Subscribe to the podcast using your favorite podcast app,Support How Change Happens with ratings, sharing feedback with me, and/or by sharing it with a friend, colleague or network, Learn more about Convergence Partnership at www.convergencepartnership.org and hear directly from their inspiring grantees via their podcast episodes (funded by Convergence Partnership instead of requiring final grant reports!), and/orLearn more about my (Kai's) change work at www.createknowledge.org, on Substack, and/or on LinkedIn.ReferencesHealing Resistance by Kazu HagaSolidarity: The Past, Present, and Future of a World-Changing Idea by Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra TaylorFacilitating Breakthrough: How to Remove Obstacles, Bridge Differences, and Move Forward Together by Adam KahaneConvergence Partnership's grantees:CoNECTHeart of the City Neighborhoods (HOCN)PUSH BuffaloElevated ChicagoLeadership CounselDestination InnovationHutch in HarmonyOmni Circle GroupThe Community / La ComunidadGrand Caillou / Dulac Band of Biloxi-Chitimacha-ChoctawUnited Houma Nation
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I intended to release this episode back in January but switching podcast editors (welcome, Jessi DiBartolomeo!) and a few life detours threw a wrench in that that timeline. However, re-connecting with this conversation this month has been a joy and I am very grateful to have crossed paths with these two beautiful humans... Join me as I think out loud with Amanda Navarro (she/her) and Michele Silver (she/her) of Convergence Partnership. We open with an interconnected discussion about listening...
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