OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

<p>This week, I'm speaking with Kevin Weil, Chief Product Officer at OpenAI, who is steering product development at what might be the world's most important company right now.</p><p>We talk about:</p><p>(00:00) Episode trailer</p><p>(01:37) OpenAI's latest launches</p><p>(03:43) What it's like being CPO of OpenAI</p><p>(04:34) How AI will reshape our lives</p><p>(07:23) How young people use AI differently</p><p>(09:29) Addressing fears about AI</p><p>(11:47) Kevin's "Oh sh!t" moment</p><p>(14:11) Why have so many models within ChatGPT?</p><p>(18:19) The unpredictability of AI product progress</p><p>(24:47) Understanding model “evals”</p><p>(27:21) How important is prompt engineering?</p><p>(29:18) Defining “AI agent”</p><p>(37:00) Why OpenAI views coding as a prime target use-case</p><p>(41:24) The "next model test” for any AI startup</p><p>(46:06) Jony Ive's role at OpenAI</p><p>(47:50) OpenAI's hardware vision</p><p>(50:41) Quickfire questions</p><p>(52:43) When will we get AGI?</p><p><strong>Kevin's links:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn:<strong> </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinweil/"><strong>https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinweil/</strong></a></p><p>Twitter/X: @kevinweil</p><p><strong>Azeem's links:</strong></p><p>Substack: <a href="https://www.exponentialview.co/">https://www.exponentialview.co/</a></p><p>Website: <a href="https://www.azeemazhar.com/">https://www.azeemazhar.com/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar">https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar</a></p><p>Twitter/X: <a href="https://x.com/azeem">https://x.com/azeem</a></p><p><strong>Our new show:</strong></p><p>This was originally recorded for "Friday with Azeem Azhar", a new show that takes place every Friday at 9am PT and 12pm ET. You can tune in through Exponential View on Substack.</p><p>Produced by <a href="http://supermix.io/">supermix.io</a> and EPIIPLUS1 Ltd.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>