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EPISODE · Nov 14, 2025 · 57 MIN

Owls and the Fowls

from The Inclusion Bites Podcast · host Joanne Lockwood

In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood is joined by Stephen Jasper to explore the world of chrono-diversity, jet lag, and the intersecting challenges of productivity and inclusion. The conversation dives into how different biological rhythms—whether you’re an “owl” or a “fowl”—can shape our experiences of time, fatigue, and wellbeing, especially in a workplace context increasingly marked by global connectivity and remote collaboration. Joanne and Stephen examine how large time shifts, such as international travel, impact cognitive performance and relationships, and why recognising variations in sleep patterns is critical for fostering a genuinely inclusive environment where all can thrive. Stephen is a jet lag consultant and chrono-diversity advocate who started his professional life as a pharmacist before gravitating towards pharmaceutical industry roles that catapulted him into extensive global travel. This practical exposure led him to a PhD focused on jet lag, with a particular emphasis on how circadian rhythms affect international management. Based in Australia—arguably the jet lag research capital due to its distance from much of the world—Stephen now works to demystify jet lag and productivity, offering straightforward interventions for individuals and organisations alike. He has also published user-friendly books, children’s resources, and hosts multiple podcasts centred on the mechanics and management of chrono-diversity. Throughout their discussion, Joanne and Stephen shed light on societal biases against night owls, the distinct differences between travel fatigue and jet lag, and the workplace implications of rigid nine-to-five cultures versus flexible, inclusive approaches. Stephen introduces innovative tools—such as blue light-emitting glasses—and shares practical advice for adjusting to new time zones, emphasising the power of sunlight and the pitfalls of common remedies like alcohol. The key takeaway from this episode is the compelling case for embracing chrono-diversity as a vital component of inclusion. By understanding and working with our differences in sleep and productivity patterns, organisations can move beyond one-size-fits-all thinking and unlock not only individual wellbeing but also greater collective success. This episode encourages all listeners to reflect on their own rhythms and advocate for cultures that value everyone’s unique contribution, whatever the hour.

<p>In this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood is joined by Stephen Jasper to explore the world of chrono-diversity, jet lag, and the intersecting challenges of productivity and inclusion. The conversation dives into how different biological rhythms—whether you’re an “owl” or a “fowl”—can shape our experiences of time, fatigue, and wellbeing, especially in a workplace context increasingly marked by global connectivity and remote collaboration. Joanne and Stephen examine how large time shifts, such as international travel, impact cognitive performance and relationships, and why recognising variations in sleep patterns is critical for fostering a genuinely inclusive environment where all can thrive.</p> <p>Stephen is a jet lag consultant and chrono-diversity advocate who started his professional life as a pharmacist before gravitating towards pharmaceutical industry roles that catapulted him into extensive global travel. This practical exposure led him to a PhD focused on jet lag, with a particular emphasis on how circadian rhythms affect international management. Based in Australia—arguably the jet lag research capital due to its distance from much of the world—Stephen now works to demystify jet lag and productivity, offering straightforward interventions for individuals and organisations alike. He has also published user-friendly books, children’s resources, and hosts multiple podcasts centred on the mechanics and management of chrono-diversity.</p> <p>Throughout their discussion, Joanne and Stephen shed light on societal biases against night owls, the distinct differences between travel fatigue and jet lag, and the workplace implications of rigid nine-to-five cultures versus flexible, inclusive approaches. Stephen introduces innovative tools—such as blue light-emitting glasses—and shares practical advice for adjusting to new time zones, emphasising the power of sunlight and the pitfalls of common remedies like alcohol.</p> <p>The key takeaway from this episode is the compelling case for embracing chrono-diversity as a vital component of inclusion. By understanding and working with our differences in sleep and productivity patterns, organisations can move beyond one-size-fits-all thinking and unlock not only individual wellbeing but also greater collective success. This episode encourages all listeners to reflect on their own rhythms and advocate for cultures that value everyone’s unique contribution, whatever the hour.</p>

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