EPISODE · Jun 13, 2025 · 41 MIN
Paminga vs. the Giants: Taking on Marketo Without Ads or VC – Michael Ward
from How They Win · host Romain Osman
In this conversation, Michael Ward, CEO and founder of Paminga, share how he bootstrapped a full-scale enterprise marketing automation platform to compete with giants like Marketo and HubSpot. He walks us through his 20-year entrepreneurial journey, how customer needs drove the product evolution, and why Paminga stands out for its usability, scalability, and modern features. We also discuss how cold outreach, LinkedIn strategy, and product obsession are fueling Paminga’s growth.🔗 Find Michael Ward here:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrmichaelward/X: https://x.com/michaelpwardWebsite: https://www.paminga.com/🎙 Connect with Romain Osman:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/romainosman/Website: https://fiveelement.co/
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In this conversation, Michael Ward, CEO and founder of Paminga, share how he bootstrapped a full-scale enterprise marketing automation platform to compete with giants like Marketo and HubSpot. He walks us through his 20-year entrepreneurial journey, how customer needs drove the product evolution, and why Paminga stands out for its usability, scalability, and modern features. We also discuss how cold outreach, LinkedIn strategy, and product obsession are fueling Paminga’s growth.🔗 Find Michael Ward here:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrmichaelward/X: https://x.com/michaelpwardWebsite: https://www.paminga.com/🎙 Connect with Romain Osman:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/romainosman/Website: https://fiveelement.co/
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