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I'm Cara Swisher. And I'm Scott Galloway. Hello Scott, I'm in San Francisco and you're in New York. They have a big giant, I'm gonna put this on the internet's picture of you above my head.
The giant head, like the Apple commercial. Yeah, well, remember it. I'm a Mac, you're a PC, that whole thing. What are you?
Are you a Mac or a PC? Oh no, I'm the palm pilot that never got launched. What am I? They showed that off at Code, I've heard of Code many years ago.
I'm in a way. We all knew it was a dud right from the start, like immediately. I'm the foldable phone, you said I don't know. What tech would you be?
If you were tech, what would you be? What would I be if I were tech? I'm AirPods. AirPods, nice, AirPods.
Yeah, that's nice. Everybody likes them. You know, it makes people look bad, but they still like them. And they put them in their ears.
You see what I'm saying? Except for the ear part. Yeah. Anyways, anywho, so look, you've had a big week.
You had interviews with presidential candidates, Yang, Bennett, and Buttigieg. So I would like you to kind of summarize your general impression of the three of them, or compare and contrast them. What's your take on them? Have my news on you.
All right, here's the deal. So first I interviewed Michael Bennett with someone who you're a big fan of, and spent time with super brainy. And you can hear it. He's super brainy in any other world.
He would be the leading presidential candidate. You know, any other era, but not this era, because things have changed drastically. He's very smart. That's a great idea about, you know, I don't want to say the word real Americans, but he thinks about other things besides the ongoing frockus in Washington, DC, between Trump and the world, essentially.
And so, although he does participate in it, he's really just has lots of great ideas. He was an education director, run their education in Colorado. He's got, you know, he's just, he's great. He's really great.
I thought that was really good. I think he's never going to be president. You feel like he's secretary of, blank. Right, right.
What about if Kamala is a nominee? Could he be a Veep? Yeah, he could be. He certainly could be.
I think that you would see her picking someone maybe like Mayor Pete, who I asked him directly if he was running for vice president. You know what I mean? That's what it felt like to me. It was a question that just, I didn't pop out of my head, but I think about that a lot with him.
He was great. He's, you know, as advertised, he's super smart. He's adorable. He has paragraph answers for everything.
He thinks. It's Mayor Pete, right? Yeah, Mayor Pete. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Bennett seems like kind of a cool, real dude that you would know, like your dad or your uncle, a really good uncle kind of thing. And Pete Buttigieg feels a little bit more sort of baked. And I used a quote that was used about him, that idea that, you know, if you had to build a candidate, a Trump candidate, this is what you build, essentially. And I could see that.
He pushed back on that concept. You know, he's got the military, he's got gay, but not too gay. And that was, of course, a controversy on the internet this week too. He's just like, he's sort of a very calm character.
Someone referred to him as a non-carbonated gay. And then there was our awful article in, what was it, the New Republic? New Republic, by Gail Peck. Yeah, that was terrible.
That was really rough. Buried in that terrible article, there were some really good points, you know, about how it feels like a cooked candidate. And it was interesting. I really enjoyed talking to him.
And he certainly, he had just done the Douglas Plan, which was dealing with issues around African Americans in this country. And then he talked a little bit about tech. I got the sense that he didn't quite, he's got some smart ideas on it, but he sort of very middle of the road on the tech stuff. And then he sort of popped up with this idea that he liked to be forgotten, which I found fascinating.
Yeah, because I don't think he knew what he was, I think he was referring to data ownership. But he was using the right to be forgotten, which of course would be impossible to implement in this country, because of the first amendment. But you know, I think he's a very quick study. And I think he understands the issues.
I don't think tech is one of his biggest issues. Again, middle of the road with breaking them up, middle of the road with, you know, he's a centrist candidate, it seems like. And I enjoy the interview, and he certainly has enormous amounts of fans. And we went back and forth, and I think I pushed him more than most people do.
Andrew Yang, what about Yang? Sorry. Yang, yang, yang, yang, yang, yang. I really enjoyed this interview.
I thought he was, you know, I know there's issues around venture for America and whether it was successful or not. And he's got a lot of like really crazy right wing fans who he decries, by the way, who really like his idea around universal basic income. And we talked a lot about that. I think he's got the freedom dividend.
And very interesting, a smart guy who really does a good job in a more substantive discussion. I can't imagine, you know, he even talked about being on the stage, how it's impossible to get his ideas out, because they're so complicated and substantive. They're not complex, you can understand them, but anyway. I mean, we'll see.
I don't think Andrew has much of a chance of making it. But here's the thing. He's injected into the public debate, this notion of universal guarantee income. I don't like it, but it's an important issue because this notion of trying to figure out an expeditious way to kind of level up Americans who are struggling.
And that's how I think of universal guarantee income, although I don't like the idea of any way, discouraged and work, if you will, but he's injected into the budget. I think he should listen to his work. I think he has a concept around it that he's, you know, it frees people to try to become entrepreneurial by taking burdens off of them, but you know. Because they have enough to pay basic rent, they can take more risks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting. You should listen to the pockets, because he really does. I'm not, I like you, I'm a little bit dubious about it.
He was making some very good arguments about who are most people from welfare. It takes away other costs if people can create jobs. One of his best examples, I think, is he reminded me of you in a lot of ways. Oddly enough, Andrew.
Really, go on. Yes, go on. He pushed back on me a lot. I was like, listen to you.
You're supposed to be subservient to my needs here. This interview. Now you're talking my language. Now you're talking my language.
When I was pushing back on you, he said, you know, when companies give out dividends to people, it's not touching, Scott is in our podcast, but he's touching the sides. Oh my god, you can see me? That's noise canceling. What is this, a Facebook pivot camera?
What else have you seen? Oh my god. That is so scary. They can see me right now.
Anyways, go ahead. So he was saying, like, when companies give shareholders money back as dividends, nobody asks how they're going to spend it. And he feels like it'll put money all over the country. That can be spent anyway.
And we shouldn't question how it's spent. We should just say it's being spent. And so it creates an economic boom in places that don't have money. He's an interesting guy.
I'm actually the imagination of a lot of your cohorts out there in Silicon Valley. He's raised a ton of money. Yeah, he has. The only thing I said is I'm a Silicon Valley reporter for many, many years.
I never met you. So I don't know how you're a Silicon Valley candidate. Oh, because he has not kissed the ring, i.e. the ass of Fariswisher.
He goes around here. He's an entrepreneur. He isn't entrepreneur. But anyway, he was great.
I was really impressed. I ended up having some dinner afterwards. And I really, he's got a lot of super fans too, which is interesting. So when does the little dog get to go to the big dog park?
When do I get to interview one of these candidates? When do you invite me? You want to invite me? She's so smart.
I'm scared of her. No, I think I want to do. I just want to do. I think Biden.
I'd like to do Biden. I feel more comfortable than old white guy. Okay. All right.
If I get Biden, you're coming. How about that? I'm in. I'm in with Joe.
I miss the good ones. I think you see her claim that you don't have any options. I think they're all pretty good. Bernie would be really interesting.
Like all of them. Bernie and you and me. That would be good. Right?
The burn. Let's fill the burn. Okay. We'll try to get the burn.
Okay. But you're scared of Elizabeth Warren. As I predicted in the New York Times that he would be using Twitter to do things like this. And then he turned around and made me look like a genius here.
So what do you think of this tweet? I'm just shocked that we're shocked that we find out the president is a racist. And also I think more disappointing. So Michelle Wolf, the comedian who's kind of my favorite comedian in the world right now, had this really interesting analogy.
And that is that you thought you heard mom was an alcoholic back in the 60s. And then you're at spring recital. And her purse accidentally slips open and out burst 40 mini bottles of Jack Daniels. And you're like, oh shit.
Mom's still an alcoholic. I feel as if we're all coming to grips with the fact that the United States is still pretty racist. And we keep waiting for his supporters and a bunch of his constituents to come out and be outraged. And so we pass these dumb resolutions centering him or trying to shame him.
And what do you know what's along party lines? And the reality is early 40s when your and my parents were alive, we had government officials show up to a dentist office in Los Angeles and say, hey, we need you to sell your practice for $10,000 and then show up to this camp with your family behind barbed wire. And their crime for that was they were Japanese. And that was not long ago.
You know, we've institutionalized racism with our economic policies with our three strikes out from candidates who were supposedly liberal, Clinton. So the notion that we're shocked that somehow a president who's overtly racist as opposed to kind of quietly racist is in a white house. I'm just shocked. We're so shocked.
And it's resolution condemning him that goes along party lines. It's absolutely nothing but distract us from the real issues we need to be discussing. So yes, he's a racist, get over it. Now get on to telling people of color and everyone else how we're going to economically empower them, which is the key to getting rid of this racist bullshit because we're a tribal species.
And people always find reasons to hate each other. We got to do us economically empower people. Anyway, you're right. It's overt.
Everything he does is overt. I do think there's a deep vein of racism that has never left. But put a percentage on it. I have a percentage.
What do you think it is? What percentage of people do you think are likely exhibit when their actions and their behaviors are somewhat fundamentally racist? What percentage do you think is not 95% in the US? No.
I think it's like 20. And then there's another 30 that are like, oh, he has a point. You know, quietly, oh, he has a point kind of thing or maybe 30. My mother loves Fox.
And so I didn't talk to her for days because they want to hear her insult squad. I just didn't want to listen to her. And when I got her on the phone and she goes, I'm so sick of this. I'm like, oh, here it comes.
And she goes, Trump and his cronies are just the worst. And she never does that. Like she's like, I'm so sick of this. Like it was really interesting.
So I do think most people don't like get out of this country. I don't think anybody likes that anymore. I think most people are like, what? Like everybody's from somewhere else.
So there's certain parts of it. I think that do appeal to people. And then there's others that are like, that's just crazy. What I think of this whole thing is, as I tweeted this, he was accused of rape.
He lost the census citizen question. And he apparently hard parties with pedophile and he needed something. It's like, what can I do to get the focus off this? What is the craziest thing?
So he's message testing 2020. I think that's well clear. And so we did this. And that's what we're talking about.
And here we are. What about Peter Thiel going after Google? All right. We'll move on to Peter Thiel from Peter Thiel's situation.
Honestly, this guy. This guy. He's suddenly crawls out of his troll hole, by the way. He's been quiet for a while.
He's been noticed. He's been super quiet. And here he is, board member of Facebook. Someone involved with Palantir and all kinds of things that have been problematic.
Going after Google's way. It's the only way I look at it is that Palantir wants government contracts that they're competing with Google on and he wants to fud up the situation. That's the only thing I can say. And of course, he goes to his friend Tucker Carlson, who would just eat it up with a spoon.
That's how I look at it. Yeah. Peter Thiel saying that he's worried about Google being co-opted by the Chinese and that this is near treasonous. A board member of Facebook saying that is literally similar to Jeffrey Epstein saying it's disturbed by the documentary on Michael Jackson.
It's just okay, boss. You're just not really in a position of moral authority to be criticizing the other big tech. It's just incredible that he would, I would imagine the other Facebook board members are giving him the same advice that Albert Brooks gave William Hurdon broadcast news when he said, what do you do when your reality exceeds your wildest imagination. Albert Brooks says, keep it to yourself.
This guy should keep those thoughts on. The only thing is they don't do anything because they didn't do anything during the Gawker thing. I'm not sure. I'll mark on stage asking about when Peter went after Gawker secretly.
I had the problem with he's a board member of a company that's trying really hard to help publishers or say they are and then there's board members secretly suing one out of business. And they're like, well, Peter does what he wants. There's nothing to do with Facebook. That's usually their position on Peter Thiel.
It seems like he can do what he wants separately. It's nothing separate with Peter Thiel. Yeah. He's a unique individual.
I don't, it's very hard to put your finger on him. I love his book Zero to One. Yeah. He's an odd doc.
There's just not getting around it. I don't, I don't see how that calculus pays off for Facebook. All I could think of was what agenda is going, which of the many agendas of Peter Thiel was happening here. There's so many to choose from and they're all nefarious in some fashion.
And I was like, which one? Why now? Why does he suddenly get loud when he was quiet before? What's his move?
And he's talking about a chess player. I don't even think I can figure out what his grand move is. And I think, you know, you'll see more of him as the election goes forward, but it's interesting that he just pops up. I was like, whoa, hi.
You again, it, like, you know what I'm making it to another version of it. That's why I feel like the clowns. It's the guy with the hockey mask and the chainsaw. Wait, we weren't expecting you back.
That's who you are. And then the last thing. Did you see the testimony? It's his name.
David Marcus, the guy who's head of Libra. Oh, you like him? He's nice. He's a nice guy.
Yeah. But he claims that his argument has gone to this nationalist argument that, well, if we don't do it, a foreign company is going to do this. It's like, well, from what I understand, there's other American companies. I mean, JP Morgan or Amazon could do this.
This is Libra. This is Facebook. He's running Facebook. Yeah, he's running Libra.
By the way, for all of you, supposedly a lot of people in Silicon Valley listen to our podcast. If you're working for Libra, you're literally heading to work this morning to waste your life. It's as if the only thing I can think of to better waste your efforts and finite time on this planet is to transfer into the pivot camera division. There is absolutely no way any government is going to allow Facebook to brought the webinization of our elections and teen depression, control of our economy.
It's just incredibly impressive that they would to lose themselves into thinking this thing's going to go anywhere. So high Facebook execs heading up, whatever it is, horrible highway no cell phone coverage. Today just doesn't count for you. 280.
280. Yeah. Two nowhere. That's Iowa.
Two nowhere. All right. And the fine that we got was exactly the slap on the wrist and it looks like they didn't even have to do much for it. So thoughts.
Scott Gallaudy, I'd like to hear a rant because you did that at this book party. You did a nice rant and scared. By the way, I've got more reports that you've terrified all this, the washing people and thrilled them at the same time. I like it.
So look, this was, this seriously was almost perfect. And all we were missing from this being restoring the storing faith in our government and the public, creating a series of incentives and disincentives around the altar of deterrence to create better behavior. The only thing that was missing here was simple. What was missing was nothing.
Specifically, what was missing. Cara was a zero. And that is if the fine had been 50 billion versus five billion, Facebook has 40 billion on cash and cash, they would have been able to pay it, but they would have had to issue debt. The stock would have gone from 205 to 80.
Mark Zuckerberg's wealth would have been cut from 60 billion to 25 billion. And I trust me on this within 90 days, they would have figured out 80, 80% of these problems because it's one thing for them to be shamed. They don't give a shit. It's one thing for them to be called in front of Congress.
They send their high price lawyers. It's another thing for their wealth to be cut by two thirds. They would have figured this shit out. So this was almost perfect.
Almost perfect. Minus the zero. The $50 billion fine could happen. Well, you know what?
The world is what we make of it. Our stock has been 500 and 60 billion. Now it's 100 and 100 millions. And one of our predictions was that you're going to see a $10 billion plus fine out of the EU, which seemed crazy two years ago.
And if it's about to happen and who is it going to happen against? It's going to happen against Amazon. We're going to see our first $10 billion plus fine Q4 Q1 next year from our ultimate gangster. Let's get to that.
Margaret. Next. Back. I was like, of course, this is what I got.
It actually tells them to break the law again. Exactly. It doesn't. It doesn't.
That's the price of it. And that's going to be a problem because they should be brought to bear. Stock was up. Stock was up to day I was announced.
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We're back and I'm here with Scott Galloway. All right. We're going to be wins and fails now. Scott, what is your win this week?
So my win is rep, Ayana Presley, and her tweet responding to the president's comments attacking her and other Congress women of color. She said, and I quote, I encourage the American people and all of us not to take a bait. This is a destructive distraction from the issues of care, concern, and consequence. And I think she's exactly right.
I think the Democrats, if they're going to take back the White House, the outrage and the indignance at the president isn't going to get them in the White House. It's going to be all right. It's going to be one of the problems of our own making of his making. But all right, enough already.
Yeah, fine. Clap back. When you say, tell me to go home. That means I go home to Michigan or wherever.
They show how stupid it is. And then move on and start focusing. Start playing offensive as opposed to defense. And I think she gets it.
So my win is representative Presley. Who's your win? My win. I got to say this week, one thing.
This was such a bad week of Twitter and news and everything else, which is the worst. And then Monica Winski did a tweet that made me so happy. I couldn't stand it. Someone, I think...
Monica? You know, the handsome Adam Grant. Yeah, the better version of me. Best of you in so many ways.
Your career advice is someone gave you that was a mistake and Monica Winski replied that working at the White House would look good on my resume. Working at the summer in terms of the White House would look good on my resume. And she just left and she just dropped it like that and moved along. And I thought, I really love Monica Winski.
I think she's a hamster. She's awful. She's a classy woman in America given all this shit that's been rained down on her. And I just...
I agree. Fantastic. No, that's good stuff. That's good stuff.
That's a nice win. And your fail? My fail. Oh, got so many fails.
So many. You know, again, Twitter and letting this happen going on. Probably, you know, how little we've heard from the tech companies with this ongoing webinization of these platforms, you know, they seem to have been trying to stay out of the way. And I want them to step up more.
They're not going to. And I sit there and wait for them to do so. You know, in that regard. And then on a minor fail, that new republic piece about Pete Buttigieg.
I do see... I think the failure wasn't so much the writer because he is what he is. His book was called Hatchet Job. So you know where you're going to get from him.
There was a failure on the editors of the new republic to put it up and then take it down. Like, why did they put it up? Why did they edit it? There's all kinds of things going on.
So I thought that was the fail for me this week to watch that. Done was... I just don't even understand where that happening. Failure happened.
I like it. Okay. So my fail... So my fail starts with a question, Cara.
I'm an investor in several private companies. And let's say one of them just went crazy. It was Google and overnight I was a billionaire. So as a 54-year-old white heterosexual billionaire, does that mean I'm obligated to run for president or qualified in your view?
No. Tom Steyer, you're not. There you go. So my loss this week is Tom Steyer, who's running for president for no other fucking reason than he's in his 50s white in a billionaire.
His entire rap is reheated Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, where he blames corporations for co-oping the government. No boss. Corporations are inanimate legal entities. It's rich people as yourself that have probably co-opted Washington.
Literally absolutely nothing to add to the debate, but you know what? These guys, if they're commonwealth, if they're interested in commonwealth, this is literally the full employment act for local TV stations and political consultants. He says he's going to spend $100 million taking oxygen away from other people who actually know how to govern. He and Howard Schultz should get in a room and say, okay, tell you what, you're a billionaire.
I know you should run for president. No, you should run for president. No, you should run for president. And then they should blow each other and go home.
And they should take that quarter of a billion dollars that they're going to spend on media. And they should do something that actually helps the world. They should spend it on voter registration. They should take a quarter of a billion dollars and give it to Planned Parenthood if they're really interested in the advancement of women and people of color.
But the notion that literally like, well, I'm white and I'm a billionaire. So that's my calling to be president. It's just so ridiculous. It's like where, where, who told them this?
That's my, my field time. Sorry. I feel that's a good one. And really we're going to, I think you should take them on you and do something else.
I agree with you. You can do whatever he wants with his money. But you're right. It's just sort of like, why now?
I think they feel that maybe there's a point to get in here. Like this is the point to get in. You know, if they have something different to say, right? You know, I'm happy.
Howard Schultz, my son says, he's a great guy. What is different about what he said? What is different? If they have a message, fine.
What is different about their message? It's not already being said by people who have governed, who actually. I'm just going to contrast it. Bloomberg said he was jumping in.
How would you feel? He's spent 12 years running the 11th largest nation in the world with huge success. He's qualified. Yeah.
Okay. All right. All right. I agree with you.
I'm with you on this one. All right. Predictions. So you made a little one before.
He made a tiny little prediction before. But let's, let me ask you one of the things is a Lion King from Disney. You love, you love yourself. The release reviews are bad.
It looks kind of creepy. It definitely does. But Aladdin live action made $332 million domestically so far and he had mixed reviews, too. What is your prediction, Mr.
Media? It doesn't matter. Everyone's going to see it. Anyone with kids is going to go see anything that says Disney on it.
And if you don't see it in the theaters, you're going to see it at home and your kids immediately, just look at the way your kids respond to the graphics and the coloring and the visual identity that connotes at Disney or Pixar, it means that you watch it. It could get zero stars or zero percent of rotten tomatoes. And at some point, they're going to monetize it because their brand is so consistently stands for outstanding quality, a real genuine concern about the well-being of children in terms of not weaponizing their Bible. Have you ever been to Disney on it?
Yes. I was forced there by Bob Iger. He made me go. He wouldn't come to code until I went.
And then they filmed me there as a hostage video. I feel like that was what he literally had a film crew of me getting on all the rides. And every time I turned around, I was a film crew there writing and I said, like, help me let me out. I was doing with my eyes and stuff like that.
And then I called it the unhappiest place on earth to him. We go back and forth. I went on to Disney Cruise, too. He forced me on one of those, too.
That was great. That was great. It was constant, softer by screen. I don't know what else to say.
It was perfect. One of that weird island they made is a little creepy, but otherwise it was flawless. That was a flawless experience with children, I must say. That's one of the ways I can tell I'm getting older.
The idea of a cruise doesn't sound horrific to me anymore. I hate Cruise. Wake up in a different city. Yeah.
So I don't think it matters back to Disney. They get so many do-overs or foul balls because they're just so outstanding. And kids, you know, we all go see almost everything. So anything from a credible organization like Disney and kids, they're going to monetize that kind of thing.
Yeah, you live down near the Disney, right? You're kind of near. Yeah, I live near Disney, but my favorite is next to Disney. It's Harry Potterworld.
That's incredible. That's the best of its kind. It's weird. I'm sorry.
I was supposed to do that, too. Anyway, any other predictions? Well, revisiting a prediction. I don't know if it was six or nine months ago, but we said when Facebook was at $150, despite all the controversy, the stock was going to be at $250.
And the moment I said that, it dove to $130. And now it's back at $205. And I'm doubling down. I think the stock goes to continues up another 20% by the end of the year because if you look at the business and occasionally I check in and I try and use their tools from the lens of an advertiser, and it's just staggering how incredibly strong it is.
And if you've seen another prediction revisiting, we said that the day that all the big tech stocks declined and lost the value of Airbus, that they were going to gain back the value of Boeing. And I don't know if you've noticed it in the last two and a half weeks, they have more than gain back the value of Boeing. Their stocks have ripped up to near highs again. Amazon's about a trillion dollars.
So I'm just doubling back down the prediction that Facebook's got to be. What about Google? I don't know about Google. Relative to the others, Google actually probably looks the cheapest because it hasn't had the run up of the others.
But I don't feel as if I understand the business well enough to make a prediction. Any others break out to Uber? Any of the others you think you're going to bring in? Well, no.
You know my view on Uber and Lyft. But no, I think the stock that is going to continue to rise and I think Zoom has got all the network effects, explosive growth, and the recurring revenue that's required to become kind of a $200 billion company. So Zoom is my kind of game search. So the camera issue?
Not an issue for you? Oh, no. Speed bump. Media focused on it.
Nobody's to install it. I mean, they can't do that. They can't do that a bunch of times. But yeah, once they get a do over 100%.
All right. All right, Scott. So I'm going to call it. Since you're now going to interview a presidential candidate with me, which should be comical in every aspect.
And you have to ask good questions, et cetera. To prepare for it. I'm going to call out all the major presidential candidates. We are talking to a lot of them.
But come on recode to code. You'll get Scott as a bonus. You guys can request him if you'd like. Bonus.
Oh my God. That was generous. A bonus. Is sure I'm not a punishment?
I don't know. Wait. He said he was going to be here. Who said he was going to be here?
Right. Oh, should we do Beto? Why don't you just do Beto by yourself? I just don't think I could handle it.
I just don't think I could handle it. Kara. I think I faint. I think I'd be like one of those Beatles fans, those girls in the 60s that just pass out and they're trying to revive them.
I'm not kidding. Okay. Beto. I'll do Beto.
Beto. Beto or Beto? I will keep saying manboy to both of you until you give essentially. Wait.
So just some quick questions on the three candidates. We're in the situation room and someone's launched a nuclear projectile. Which of those three people you interviewed, Yang Bennett or Buttigieg, would you want in that room making the decisions on how to respond to a nuclear projectile being launched? Michael Bennett.
Michael Bennett. Who do you think has the most empathy for Americans and I think empathy is key. I think that was President Clinton's core competence. I think at the end of the day he really didn't want to help people.
Who do you think has the most empathy for middle-class Americans? Michael Bennett. I'm going to stop asking you questions. Keep asking another question.
Let's see if I can gain another one. Who would you want to date? Who would you want to take to a wedding and make out with after you get drunk? Zero.
Zero to zero. You said to keep going. You said to keep going. You got to pick one.
You got to pick one. Candidates. What the heck? They're just men.
They give me one more question. I can answer someone else. Best ideas. I like his innovative mind.
Who do you think is most likely to not only have great ideas but be effective. There's a big difference between being right and being effective and Washington. Who would be most effective in getting legislation passed? Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris. I just count. There you go. There you go.
I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. We'll get them all in.
I'm so excited you're going to do it with me. Anyway, we'll be back next week. Again, I'll be here in San Francisco. You're going to be in New York?
Yes. I'm going to be in New York. Cool. I'll be in New York soon.
I will see you then. I'm going to go out. Probably not. Probably not.
We have a live pivot. We have a live pivot which is sold out. Sold out. Sold out.
Oh my gosh. Sold out. There's something you can get it. Someone's trying to mark them up.
Really? That's right. They're coming to see the big dog play with his ball at the park. And this one's going to be a lively evening with the two of us.
Correct? Yeah, it's going to be great. Who would have thought these things are fun? This will be our third.
They are. They really are fun. We're going to do a ton more all around the country and we'll coordinate our outfits later. All right.
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