Rethinking Clericalism and Leadership for a Flourishing Church

In this episode of Called to Lead, host Dr. John Rinaldo sits down with Dr. Paul Schutz, Associate Professor of Religious Studies at Santa Clara University. Dr. Schutz is a theologian, liturgist, and author whose work bridges theological reflection with the lived realities of Church and world. Together, they discuss his recent scholarly work, including his recent book, A Theology of Flourishing: The Fullness of Life for All Creation, his research on clericalism as a structural phenomenon in the Catholic Church, and what leadership looks like in the 21st-century Church. This conversation invites listeners into a thoughtful exploration of power, culture, and theological imagination—grounding pastoral leadership in justice, humility, and a vision of flourishing for all.