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EPISODE · Sep 7, 2025 · 1H 34M

Rufus Pollock on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

from Co-Creating the Third Attractor · host Daniela Bomatter - Manifest Nirvana

Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Rufus Pollock is an entrepreneur, researcher and technologist working to create an open information age. Founder and President of Open Knowledge, a leading international non-profit that empowers people and organizations with access to information and the tools and skills to make sense of it. A recognized global expert on open data and open knowledge. He has worked with multiple governments, IGOs such as the World Bank and the UN, businesses and CSOs. You can find more about his projects here: https://lifeitself.org/https://secondrenaissance.net/https://secondrenaissance.net/oasishttps://secondrenaissance.net/paper https://lifeguild.earth/Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com ,   #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com )

Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Rufus Pollock is an entrepreneur, researcher and technologist working to create an open information age. Founder and President of Open Knowledge, a leading international non-profit that empowers people and organizations with access to information and the tools and skills to make sense of it. A recognized global expert on open data and open knowledge. He has worked with multiple governments, IGOs such as the World Bank and the UN, businesses and CSOs. You can find more about his projects here: https://lifeitself.org/https://secondrenaissance.net/https://secondrenaissance.net/oasishttps://secondrenaissance.net/paper https://lifeguild.earth/Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com ,   #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com )

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